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Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 29, 2013 01:09

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It woulod be great if they played songs from 83 onwards, but they will not do it. A shame.

Wait til this new publishing deal bears fruit, and you'll be hearing things like 'Too Much Blood' in tampax ads, 'Had it with you' in marriage guidance counselling commercials, 'Gunface' used to promote the NRA, 'Thief in the Night' promoting burglar alarms and 'Sex Drive' as the background for a Viagra promotion.

The result will be all the corporate attendees will be screaming requests for these newly discovered songs on the next tour.

How about "Let It Loose" for laxatives?

Very good, but I'm trying to sell the '83 onwards' catalogue. Pay attention!

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: June 29, 2013 02:03

If I may cite myself I made a statistical run down of the last 2013 Philly gig and it looks like this:

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1960's - 10 songs (65,65,66,68,68,69,69,69,69,69)
1970's - 7 songs (71,71,71,72,74,78,78)
1980's - 2 songs (80,81)
1990's - 0 songs
2000's - 0 songs.
2010's - 2 songs (2012,2012)

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 02:11

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judas priest just did a farewell tour and played at least 1 tune from every album they ever did

And that worked really well for them(just saw and enjoyed the Epitaph bluray).
But that wouldn't work for the Stones. Their discography is a totally different animal.

i agree with that and agree the stones set would be ridiculously long to do that plus play some of the must play songs. a 25 song set alternating some songs would look really nice like this:
1 come on/i wanna be your man
2 get off my cloud/not fade away
3 the last time
4 paint it black
5 mother little helper
6 jumping jack flash
7 honky tonk woman/street fighting man
8 wild horses/angie
9 all down the line/tumbling dice
10 its only rock n roll
11 miss you/emotional rescue
12 beast of burden/waiting on a friend
13 happy/before they make me run
14 slipping away/ you got the silver
15 start me up
16 she was hot/undercover
17 mixed emotions/almost hear you sigh
18 i go wild/you got me rocking
19 out of control/saint of me
20 rough justice/oh no not you again
21 doom and gloom/one more shot
22 sympathy for the devil
23 brown sugar
24 satisfaction

the 25th song could be a rarely performed song or cover. pick 4 rare songs and a few covers to use with certain guests and alternate them. one hit to the body for 4 shows, then sway for 4 shows, then tell me for 4 shows or whatever. if a guest doesn't want to do a song from that setlist have covers ready like its all over now, time is on my side, little red rooster, thats how strong my love is, etc ready to go.



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Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: June 29, 2013 02:33

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The general public stopped buying new Stones albums after Tatoo You.

They're last UK #1 was VOODOO LOUNGE. Their last US #1 was TATTOO YOU. Their last UK and US #1 was EMOTIONAL RESCUE.

Perhaps Canada likes the Stones better - A BIGGER BANG was their last Canadian #1.

Yes, but every album since Tattoo You has been top 5 in the US and UK, except for B2B, which was no. 6 UK but still on the charts for 22 weeks--not bad when you consider that a classic like Beggar's Banquet only made #3 in its day in the UK with 18 weeks on the charts (Steel Wheels did slightly better: #2 UK, 18 weeks on the charts). ABB's chart placing was nothing to sneeze at either (#2 UK, 14 weeks on the charts; #3 US, 19 weeks on the charts; #3 also in France with 51 weeks on the charts and #1 in Switzerland with 21 weeks on the charts), also considering it went Platinum in the US, Canada, and Germany and Gold in the UK and France. For a bunch of geezers in their 60s putting out a new album, that's a bucketload of international units moved.

If they put out a new album, it will surely top those numbers.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 02:38

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celebrating the bands 50th anniversary they really should have picked at least 1 song from each album to at least rotate in and out of the set. shame that didn't happen though.

I agree.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: beachbreak ()
Date: June 29, 2013 02:39

B2B was a darn good album.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 02:49

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For a band that tours after a 5 year break it is obviously too difficult to rotate their setlist more than they actually did. And even the one-offs they did actually sounded quite shaky more often than not. That's the curse when you're not an active band anymore, don't rehearse or just play together between tours.

I agree. I believe this is the real reason we don't get more rarities. The efficiency of the guitar players in this band isn't close to what it used to be. Don't know why they attempted a tour at such an elderly age. Actually, I do. It's all about one last cash run. Sad, but true.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: backstreetboy1 ()
Date: June 29, 2013 02:53

totally agree with let me down slow,a gem off abb.other tunes off that album great live could be dangerous beauty,it wont take long,driving to fast,and laugh i nearly died.we saw how great the other 4 songs they played off a bigger bang were last year,onnya,bomh,sol,and rfd.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 03:05

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B2B was a darn good album.

Yes, another great album wasted.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 29, 2013 03:29

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The general public stopped buying new Stones albums after Tatoo You.

They're last UK #1 was VOODOO LOUNGE. Their last US #1 was TATTOO YOU. Their last UK and US #1 was EMOTIONAL RESCUE.

Perhaps Canada likes the Stones better - A BIGGER BANG was their last Canadian #1.

Their last UK number 1 was actually the reissue of Exile in 2010. A remarkable achievement.

To be honest, sales and weeks in the chart are a more of a barometer of success than chart placings. A record can sell relatively low amounts and still be a chart topper in a week where no other major artists are also releasing something. Timing is everything when it comes to chart placings.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 03:32

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totally agree with let me down slow,a gem off abb.other tunes off that album great live could be dangerous beauty,it wont take long,driving to fast,and laugh i nearly died.we saw how great the other 4 songs they played off a bigger bang were last year,onnya,bomh,sol,and rfd.

ABB has to be the worst Stones album ever. Laugh, I Nearly Died is the only decent song on that dud.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 04:03

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totally agree with let me down slow,a gem off abb.other tunes off that album great live could be dangerous beauty,it wont take long,driving to fast,and laugh i nearly died.we saw how great the other 4 songs they played off a bigger bang were last year,onnya,bomh,sol,and rfd.

ABB has to be the worst Stones album ever. Laugh, I Nearly Died is the only decent song on that dud.
she saw me coming is good

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 04:09

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totally agree with let me down slow,a gem off abb.other tunes off that album great live could be dangerous beauty,it wont take long,driving to fast,and laugh i nearly died.we saw how great the other 4 songs they played off a bigger bang were last year,onnya,bomh,sol,and rfd.

ABB has to be the worst Stones album ever. Laugh, I Nearly Died is the only decent song on that dud.
she saw me coming is good

Yeah, OK, it's not terrible.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 04:15

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The general public stopped buying new Stones albums after Tatoo You.

They're last UK #1 was VOODOO LOUNGE. Their last US #1 was TATTOO YOU. Their last UK and US #1 was EMOTIONAL RESCUE.

Perhaps Canada likes the Stones better - A BIGGER BANG was their last Canadian #1.

Their last UK number 1 was actually the reissue of Exile in 2010. A remarkable achievement.

To be honest, sales and weeks in the chart are a more of a barometer of success than chart placings. A record can sell relatively low amounts and still be a chart topper in a week where no other major artists are also releasing something. Timing is everything when it comes to chart placings.

A remarkable achievement? Please explain.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 29, 2013 04:30

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It woulod be great if they played songs from 83 onwards, but they will not do it. A shame.

Wait til this new publishing deal bears fruit, and you'll be hearing things like 'Too Much Blood' in tampax ads, 'Had it with you' in marriage guidance counselling commercials, 'Gunface' used to promote the NRA, 'Thief in the Night' promoting burglar alarms and 'Sex Drive' as the background for a Viagra promotion.

The result will be all the corporate attendees will be screaming requests for these newly discovered songs on the next tour.

How about "Let It Loose" for laxatives?

Very good, but I'm trying to sell the '83 onwards' catalogue. Pay attention!

Always Pads - because someone has to do the Dirty Work.

Roofies - someone's Had It With You.

Mexico - a destination place to see the latest volcano - because Sparks Will Fly.

Need living assistance help? Visit yougotmerocking.com to find out info!

BP - being ourselves was and always will be our Biggest Mistake.

Aaron Michael Hernandez - because somehow $40 million is Rough Justice.

Kenny Chesney's first thought after Renee Zellwegger found out he's gay and filed for divorce - Already Over Me. Zellwegger said "I made the Biggest personal Mistake of my life. I felt a fool." Fool To Cry over Kenney. 128-day marriage can do that. Renee was Sad Sad Sad. Blinded By Love at first, 128 days later she was feeling Mixed Emotions and needed to Flip The Switch because she was Out Of Tears that she never had.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 29, 2013 04:55

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The general public stopped buying new Stones albums after Tatoo You.

They're last UK #1 was VOODOO LOUNGE. Their last US #1 was TATTOO YOU. Their last UK and US #1 was EMOTIONAL RESCUE.

Perhaps Canada likes the Stones better - A BIGGER BANG was their last Canadian #1.

Their last UK number 1 was actually the reissue of Exile in 2010. A remarkable achievement.

To be honest, sales and weeks in the chart are a more of a barometer of success than chart placings. A record can sell relatively low amounts and still be a chart topper in a week where no other major artists are also releasing something. Timing is everything when it comes to chart placings.

A remarkable achievement? Please explain.

First time a reissued album ever topped the charts.

Even more remarkable in that it was one which was 38 years old and wasnt promoted by the band playing any shows or making any TV appearances (musical ones, anyway).

Most of those releases - even with bonus tracks - would struggle to make the top 50.



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Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: camper88 ()
Date: June 29, 2013 05:07

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Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 05:09

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The general public stopped buying new Stones albums after Tatoo You.

They're last UK #1 was VOODOO LOUNGE. Their last US #1 was TATTOO YOU. Their last UK and US #1 was EMOTIONAL RESCUE.

Perhaps Canada likes the Stones better - A BIGGER BANG was their last Canadian #1.

Their last UK number 1 was actually the reissue of Exile in 2010. A remarkable achievement.

To be honest, sales and weeks in the chart are a more of a barometer of success than chart placings. A record can sell relatively low amounts and still be a chart topper in a week where no other major artists are also releasing something. Timing is everything when it comes to chart placings.

A remarkable achievement? Please explain.

First time a reissued album ever topped the charts.

Even more remarkable in that it was one which was 38 years old and wasnt promoted by the band playing any shows or making any TV appearances (musical ones, anyway).

Most of those releases - even with bonus tracks - would struggle to make the top 50.

Thanks for explaining. That is a remarkable achievement.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: sanQ ()
Date: June 29, 2013 06:35

I wish they played Too Tough. I think that's a great underrated song.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: winos ()
Date: June 29, 2013 07:07

Great set list keefriffhard4life - a few additions such as: 19th nervous, Let it Bleed or Live with Me, Gimme Shelter, Rocks Off, Sweet Virginia, Heartbreaker, One hit, plus alternate JJF with Midnight Rambler. Get onto it Mick!

pool's in but the patio ain't dry

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: laertisflash ()
Date: June 29, 2013 09:57

GasLightStreet wrote: "The general public stopped buying new Stones albums after Tatoo You. They're last UK #1 was VOODOO LOUNGE. Their last US #1 was TATTOO YOU. Their last UK and US #1 was EMOTIONAL RESCUE.Perhaps Canada likes the Stones better - A BIGGER BANG was their last Canadian #1."

A BIGGER BANG stayed at #1 of the Global Chart for two weeks and, if i remember correctly, on Top 10 of the particular chart for 3-4 weeks. Actually ABB have sold better than some Stones albums from the past, the so called "glory years" included. 2,600,000 copies sold was a really good number by the measures of 2005-06.

As Stoneshearted said, every album since Tattoo You has been top 5 in the US and UK, except for B2B, which was no. 6. And, if memory helps, all the recent Stones studio albums (not only ABcool smiley became #1 on the Chart which shows the worldwide sales. So your claim that "the general public stopped bying new Stones albums after Tatoo You" is simply wrong.

The Stones never had been "monster" as album sellers (ticket sales is another story!), but they still are admirably stable album sellers, as Stoneshearted's observation reminds us. In addition, the most important factor as for the sales is the ...number sales itself, not whether an album is #1, #2, or #3 on a particular chart. Voodoo Lounge was one of the best selling Stones albums ever. It did strong sales in the US, but stayed at #2 just because the Lion King's soundtrack was invincible. In 1978, in the UK, Some Girls had been limited at #2 due to "Saturday Night Fever". And SG is the best selling Stones album ever...

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Date: June 29, 2013 11:01

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Great set list keefriffhard4life - a few additions such as: 19th nervous, Let it Bleed or Live with Me, Gimme Shelter, Rocks Off, Sweet Virginia, Heartbreaker, One hit, plus alternate JJF with Midnight Rambler. Get onto it Mick!

thanks. like i just showed the stones could have easily took the fans on a trip through their history in only 25 songs, could have played enough well known tunes to please most fans with 9 or 10 warhorses at the most and would only have had to rehearse about 50 songs.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: June 29, 2013 18:24

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GasLightStreet wrote: "The general public stopped buying new Stones albums after Tatoo You. They're last UK #1 was VOODOO LOUNGE. Their last US #1 was TATTOO YOU. Their last UK and US #1 was EMOTIONAL RESCUE.Perhaps Canada likes the Stones better - A BIGGER BANG was their last Canadian #1."

A BIGGER BANG stayed at #1 of the Global Chart for two weeks and, if i remember correctly, on Top 10 of the particular chart for 3-4 weeks. Actually ABB have sold better than some Stones albums from the past, the so called "glory years" included. 2,600,000 copies sold was a really good number by the measures of 2005-06.

As Stoneshearted said, every album since Tattoo You has been top 5 in the US and UK, except for B2B, which was no. 6. And, if memory helps, all the recent Stones studio albums (not only ABcool smiley became #1 on the Chart which shows the worldwide sales. So your claim that "the general public stopped bying new Stones albums after Tatoo You" is simply wrong.

The Stones never had been "monster" as album sellers (ticket sales is another story!), but they still are admirably stable album sellers, as Stoneshearted's observation reminds us. In addition, the most important factor as for the sales is the ...number sales itself, not whether an album is #1, #2, or #3 on a particular chart. Voodoo Lounge was one of the best selling Stones albums ever. It did strong sales in the US, but stayed at #2 just because the Lion King's soundtrack was invincible. In 1978, in the UK, Some Girls had been limited at #2 due to "Saturday Night Fever". And SG is the best selling Stones album ever...

I was viewing the whatever album chart that showed the UK, US, CAN and maybe a couple others. The reason I didn't list the EXILE reissue going #1 is because I didn't see what Gazza said and it's not on that list, it's just original releases in regard to albums. EXILE RARITIES is on it but not the reissue of EXILE or SOME GIRLS.

And I actually did not say "The general public stopped buying new Stones albums after Tatoo You." That was Bungo. Sometimes - perhaps a lot of times - or specifically lately - it SEEMS that way with what the Stones elect to not play.

However it was more to do with how people tend to view certain albums with their popularity in the general public - if it was a case of an album being more popular than another in the general public due to chart posotion then chart placing has no relevance because how could EMOTIONAL RESCUE be as good as EXILE ON MAIN STREET when both were #1 albums?

I know UNDERCOVER onwards they've had good sales/chartings, all in the Top 10 (only one out of the Top 5, BRIDGES at 6 in the UK - ha ha, the US liked it better). They've almost had #1s with every new studio release since 1981. Of course the amount of time the LPs have been on the chart ie active buying has been getting shorter and shorter...

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: nick ()
Date: June 29, 2013 19:39

1982-1983 Rock stations were pussing out and going Top 40. Rock groups stopped getting the airtime. If you're getting Beat It and Billie Jean jammed down your throat you're gonna go out and buy Thriller. Undercover came in at 3 or 4 in the US and in my opinion would had been #1 but stations abandoned the AOR (Album Oriented Radio) for Top 40. The AOR format allowed stronger tracks that were either not singles...yet, b-sides, or just a really good song to get airtime and thats how albums sold. I'm sure many girls in particular may not had been interested in Undercover or Dirty Work when their BFF's were getting Madonna and Cyndi Lauper. Bottom line is that we Stones fans enjoy our post Tattoo You titles and can listen to them anytime we want.

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: June 30, 2013 04:28

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A remarkable achievement? Please explain.

First time a reissued album ever topped the charts.

Not to suggest that it wasn't a remarkable achievement but a reissued album accomplished chart topping previously with Thriller in 2008--25th anniversary edition. It went #1 in more than ten countries.

Was 'Thriller' ever out of print, though?

Re: They just don't like their recent albums....!
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: June 30, 2013 10:44

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A remarkable achievement? Please explain.

First time a reissued album ever topped the charts.

Not to suggest that it wasn't a remarkable achievement but a reissued album accomplished chart topping previously with Thriller in 2008--25th anniversary edition. It went #1 in more than ten countries.

Was 'Thriller' ever out of print, though?
I'm sorry, was there a time when Exile was out of print?

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