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Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Shawn20 ()
Date: March 5, 2005 21:12

Which Rolling Stone concert that you personally attended had the largest crowd? I was at the July 11, 1995 show at Wembley, but I'm not certain of the crowd size. The largest crowd I personally saw was the December 5, 1981 show at the New Orleans Superdome, 87,500.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: rovalle ()
Date: March 5, 2005 21:35

altamont...

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 5, 2005 21:48

Prague, Czechia 1990 (120 000)
Wolfsburg, Germany 1995 (95 000)
Hannover, Germany 1998 (90 000)

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: R ()
Date: March 5, 2005 22:19

SarsStock in Toronto. Nearly a half million. It was insane.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: March 5, 2005 22:38

Praha/Prague 1995 127.000 (some speak of 137.000)

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Date: March 5, 2005 22:39

To switch things around, I suspect the coolest thing would be to have attended a Stones concert with the fewest people. I wonder what some of their smallest venues have been and who's been there.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: R ()
Date: March 5, 2005 23:44

"I wonder what some of their smallest venues have been and who's been there."

I saw the Winos do a TV taping w/ about 100 people.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 6, 2005 00:19

Soundcheck Hanover 95, about 50 people (crew included).

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 6, 2005 00:45

Stade de France 2003. Was it 80 or nearer 90 000 thousands there?

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 6, 2005 01:03

You wouldnt get 90,000 in the SDF as it only holds 80,000 for football

I think there were 90,000 at the Longchamps, Paris shows in 1995. Thats probably the biggest I was at.

The smallest show on the Licks tour would have been Palais Royale - a few hundred as it was the only actual club show. Of the theatres, I think Astoria was the smallest at around 1,700. Thats the smallest Stones show I've seen. Most of their shows in the 60's (plus the 71 tour) would have been in places no bigger than that.

The biggest documented paying crowds at Stones shows would be

1) SARStock, Toronto 2003 (430,000 or somewhere around that figure)
2) Knebworth 1976 (200,000)

The only others over 100,000 that I know of would be Leeds 1982, Prague 1990 and 1995 (and maybe the 2003 show as well), Rio de Janeiro 1995 (two shows)

Hyde Park and Altamont were free shows and the crowd figures are only estimated. Both would have been in excess of 250,000. Altamont was probably bigger and on a par with Sarstock.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: davido ()
Date: March 6, 2005 01:35

Officially, I think it's generally
considered to be Sars Stock.
Bigger doesn't always
necessarily mean best
tho. Personally , I too,
would prefer to see the
Stones in a small venue.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 6, 2005 05:21

officially yes, because SARStock was a ticketed event and there was an official published attendance

Altamont and Hyde Park were free shows and unticketed so there was no way of monitoring accurately how many were at either show.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: davido ()
Date: March 6, 2005 07:30

Yes, I see what you mean Gazza.
So how would you then estimate
that Altamont was close in size?

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: March 6, 2005 12:36

pargue 2003..80,000 maybe 90,000

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Marnix ()
Date: March 6, 2005 22:07

The Hague, Malieveld in the rain with 87.000 people

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 6, 2005 22:36

davido Wrote:
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> Yes, I see what you mean Gazza.
> So how would you then estimate
> that Altamont was close in size?


because the reported estimates for the show (presumably based on police figures, aerial pictures and other sources generally used in estimated tallies of large crowds) tend to range from 300,000 to 500,000 - most estimates I've read have tended to be upwards of 400,000

Similarly most estimated figures for Hyde Park have been around the 250-300,000 range, although I've read some higher figures...

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Havo ()
Date: March 6, 2005 23:51

dont forget--Stuttgart-Germany 1999--Cannstatter Wasn--95000

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: shattered ()
Date: March 7, 2005 00:37

Detroit's Silverdome, December 1, 1981 10,000 people on the floor.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 7, 2005 01:11

Shawn20 Wrote:
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> Which Rolling Stone concert that you personally
> attended had the largest crowd? I was at the July
> 11, 1995 show at Wembley, but I'm not certain of
> the crowd size. The largest crowd I personally
> saw was the December 5, 1981 show at the New
> Orleans Superdome, 87,500.


Wembley Stadium held 72,000 people for concerts.

The stadium originally held 100,000 for football matches, but the capacity was reduced to 82,000 in the 1980's when it became an all-seated stadium.

The new stadium which opens next year will seat 90,000. So, I would imagine it would hold around 75-78,000 for concerts

I think the Strahov Stadium in Prague was the biggest sports stadium in the world (even bigger than the Maracana in Rio which is the biggest football stadium) - as it used to hold around 220,000 up to around 30 years ago. Its considerably less now, though, but still seems to hold more for concerts than any other.

I believe that the biggest other stadiums in Europe are currently the Nou Camp in Barcelona, Bernabeu in Madrid and San Siro in Milan. When Croke Park in Dublin (which is a Gaelic football stadium) finishes being redeveloped, it will be one of the four biggest stadiums in Europe.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-03-07 01:16 by Gazza.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: March 7, 2005 04:35

Sars show (from Billboard Boxscore)

$6,689,414 ($9,278,217 Canadian)
Molson Canadian Rocks for Toronto: The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, Rush, The Guess Who, Justin Timberlake.

490,952 (500,000)

$15.52

TGA Entertainment/House of Blues Canada/ Downsview Parc, Clear Channel Entertainment Toronto, Ont., July 30, 2003.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: bassaleman ()
Date: March 7, 2005 06:24

I have seen them at Giant Stadium several times and I think we are talking about 75 thousand when sold out...Rich stadium in Buffalo also holds a large amout,say around 85 to 90 thousand...

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: March 7, 2005 08:02

Giants Stadium holds around 75000 for footbal but for concerts, as is the case for most stadiums, the entire endzone seating behind the stage is gone. Stones 4 shows there in 1994 drew around 220,000.
I think for the average 60-70000 seat football stadium, you probably have to subtract around 15-20,000 from the football capacity in order to get a good estimate as to what the concert capacity would be.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: March 7, 2005 08:09

According to the IORR 97/98 tour page, 59,305 attended Giants Stadium each night in 97.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: March 7, 2005 10:18

Cannstatter Wasen were definitely NOT 95.ooo, 65.000 is more likely.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: March 7, 2005 10:46


Paris 95 was absolutely packed!

I think that the smallest crowd in a stadium must have been Rome 1990: maybe 6,000 at the Flaminio (which is the second stadium of Rome, with a capacity of 25,000, but is always a stadium): almost a club show!

C

p.s. Wasn't the opening of the Uj/SW tour also a huge selling show?


Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: ThatsWhatISay ()
Date: March 7, 2005 16:23

I always thought the capacity enlarges when a concert is played in a stadium. Of course the seats behind the stage can't be sold, but think about all the people on the floor. When the floor is really packed it must be more than the capacity of the seats behind the stage. Or I am wrong?

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: KeithRichards ()
Date: March 7, 2005 16:27

I agree with you "ThatsWhatISay" - at least that's the case in the Happel Stadium in Vienna. The capacity is normally 48.000 for football games, etc., but there were close to 60.000 people at the last Stones concert.


Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: Shawn20 ()
Date: March 7, 2005 16:35

It certainly would make a difference if they have assigned seats on the field or general admission as you still see in Europe. The last shows in America for general admission was the 81 tour. Everything since then has been reserved seating on the floor. The reserved seating certainly makes for a more gentile evening, but it does impact the crowd response. I've been down in the pit more than a few times and sometimes you couldn't breathe. Yes, it is more exciting, but also more dangerous. I always thought the best of both worlds was what I saw in London in 95. My wife and I arrived the second the doors were open and we ran to our seats in the stands. I was happy not to be on the field when the crowd surged to the front during Not Fade Away. I had a great time in comfort and the rowdy racuious fans down front had a great time...best of both worlds.

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: R ()
Date: March 7, 2005 16:49

" Detroit's Silverdome, December 1, 1981 10,000 people on the floor."

And that was the SECOND of two nights totaling in excess of 180,000 people. To this day there is an argument if this stand, or the one from the New Orleans Superdome that tour, hold the all time world record for attendance at any indoor event(s).

Re: Largest crowd at a Stones show
Posted by: DGA35 ()
Date: March 8, 2005 00:36

The stadium capacity will vary from the football capacity as I mentioned earlier. Some stadiums don't have much seating on the endzones so in those cases, the floor seating will make up for the difference, but in alot of stadiums, in North America at least, you have a lower bowl, mid and upper bowl with seating the same all around, like a Giants Stadium. In those cases, you're losing alot of seats on the endzones.
In my reply earlier I mentioned around 220,000 for the 4 Stones shows in Giants Stadium which was off by 20000, but it is still around 15000 less per show than the football capacity (75k vs. 60k).



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