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Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: April 17, 2013 02:49

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Many parts of a pine tree are eatable... errrr... edible.

I think you're now referring to Euell Gibbons...spokesman for Grape Nuts! smiling smiley



Ever see this Euell Gibbons parody from the Carol Burnett show, with John Byner as EG [at 4:04]?

"Ever try eatin' some pebbles?.... And occasionally, I make a meal out of a birch table."





There was also one year a Euell Gibbons parody with Tim Conway, where he shows up at someone's house and starts devouring all the nature-derived items.

"I'm gonna eat your garage!...."

LMAO.... Those really were the days.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: backstreetboy1 ()
Date: April 17, 2013 02:54

they can shove em.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: April 17, 2013 02:56

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they can shove em.

Into the hands of wildly rich people?
Is that what you mean?

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 17, 2013 03:40

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maybe they could play Obama....

the feeling's mutual

You mean, like, at the Whitehouse?

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: PaintitBlue ()
Date: April 17, 2013 03:41

Has anyone thought...even for a minute...that the stones have simply found a good way to stick it to the scalpers, while putting fans in the seats. They charge exorbitant prices for the "best" seats and also some not so great seats that the scalpers are reluctant to pick up as they are ALREADY overpriced. Or if they do pick them up a lot of them take a bath in the end...Then they come in with the surprise "$85 tickets" with the restrictions in place so the scalpers will stay away...or at least think twice about trying to snap them up. They then make it extremely difficult for anyone not paying attention to actually get into a queue to buy these tickets, ensuring the facebook fans and rollingstones.com fans have the "path to the tickets" while those going to ticketmaster.com see the regular priced ones. These $85 tickets mostly, if not all, go to the fans. Then the piece de resistance...those fans who want to pay the $600 to ensure they know where they are sitting (in a half decent spot) can easily do so based on whats still available...anything not sold goes to the $85 pile...which in my mind is most likely more than 1000 per show...I in fact believe they knew there would be more than 1000 going out. They will release them in drabs and there will prob be a flood of them in the couple days before each show. I think there is a method to the madness...and I like it...like it...yes I do.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 17, 2013 03:43

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PaintitBlue
Has anyone thought...even for a minute...that the stones have simply found a good way to stick it to the scalpers, while putting fans in the seats. They charge exorbitant prices for the "best" seats and also some not so great seats that the scalpers are reluctant to pick up as they are ALREADY overpriced. Or if they do pick them up a lot of them take a bath in the end...Then they come in with the surprise "$85 tickets" with the restrictions in place so the scalpers will stay away...or at least think twice about trying to snap them up. They then make it extremely difficult for anyone not paying attention to actually get into a queue to buy these tickets, ensuring the facebook fans and rollingstones.com fans have the "path to the tickets" while those going to ticketmaster.com see the regular priced ones. These $85 tickets mostly, if not all, go to the fans. Then the piece de resistance...those fans who want to pay the $600 to ensure they know where they are sitting (in a half decent spot) can easily do so based on whats still available...anything not sold goes to the $85 pile...which in my mind is most likely more than 1000 per show...I in fact believe they knew there would be more than 1000 going out. They will release them in drabs and there will prob be a flood of them in the couple days before each show. I think there is a method to the madness...and I like it...like it...yes I do.

they are freakin' diabolical!

Sympathy for the Devil indeed!

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Grison ()
Date: April 17, 2013 10:21

Eventually they will be all sold out - somehow. I totally agree that for nosebleed seats a 600 to 700 $ Ticket is way out of range. At the end you can gamble on the 85$ or go for the safety seat. I think this is by far very fair. If you intend to spoil yourself go for the VIP thing. I assume Vegas will be sold out in no time. Once the tax year is done (end of April for US) they will go for tickets even if they are higher priced.
For sure secondary market will drop like in November and December.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: rebelrebel ()
Date: April 17, 2013 11:05

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No other Artist does this. Springsteen charges $100-$125 for his shows,plays 35 songs a night and digs very deep in his catalogue. Even McCartney's top ticket was $250 and again 35 song set with liberal mix of big hits and rarities.

On the other hand they are solo artists so keep most of the money where there are four Stones to be paid. On that basis Bruce would be $500 and McCartney $1,000.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather pay less too.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: April 17, 2013 13:30

High Priced Tickets not Selling



Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: April 17, 2013 15:02

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No other Artist does this. Springsteen charges $100-$125 for his shows,plays 35 songs a night and digs very deep in his catalogue. Even McCartney's top ticket was $250 and again 35 song set with liberal mix of big hits and rarities.

On the other hand they are solo artists so keep most of the money where there are four Stones to be paid. On that basis Bruce would be $500 and McCartney $1,000.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather pay less too.

If I have got it right the Stones are a democratic band, that is: each one gets 25% of their cake.

In a just world where the actual job is credited by amount of work and quality of it, I would divide it this way:

Jagger 60%
Watts 30%
Richards 5%
Wood 5%

The point is: it is unjust since Jagger and Watts need to work much harder to get their equal share of the cake. Especially Jagger is going cheap, while Keith and Ronnie have a damn great deal... London School of Economics, my ass...

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-17 15:06 by Doxa.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Harm ()
Date: April 17, 2013 15:13

It's maybe a wake-up call for the Stones...on the other hand...they live in a different world than we do

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: drbryant ()
Date: April 17, 2013 15:44

Part of the reason is surely the fact that many of us are opting for the 85 USD seats. I had great 600 dollar seats for LA on May 2, but when my sister got the cheap seats, I sold them On Stubhub. they sold immediately - i guess most of the remaining seats are far from the stage for high prices. The desirable seats seem to sell.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: April 17, 2013 16:19

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Especially Jagger is going cheap, while Keith and Ronnie have a damn great deal... London School of Economics, my ass...

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- Doxa


So you're saying that whole 1988 musical journey with Jimmy Rip on guitars dripping in chorus and Ibanez tone was all Jagger needs to succeed?

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 17, 2013 16:22

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rambler44

No other Artist does this. Springsteen charges $100-$125 for his shows,plays 35 songs a night and digs very deep in his catalogue. Even McCartney's top ticket was $250 and again 35 song set with liberal mix of big hits and rarities.

On the other hand they are solo artists so keep most of the money where there are four Stones to be paid. On that basis Bruce would be $500 and McCartney $1,000.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather pay less too.

If I have got it right the Stones are a democratic band, that is: each one gets 25% of their cake.

In a just world where the actual job is credited by amount of work and quality of it, I would divide it this way:

Jagger 60%
Watts 30%
Richards 5%
Wood 5%

The point is: it is unjust since Jagger and Watts need to work much harder to get their equal share of the cake. Especially Jagger is going cheap, while Keith and Ronnie have a damn great deal... London School of Economics, my ass...

smoking smiley

- Doxa

Exactly right. Mick is irreplaceable, and as much as everyone on this board would hate it, 'the Rolling Stones' could tour without any single of the other members, but without Mick no way.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Send It To me ()
Date: April 17, 2013 16:28

What do they care if the tickets sell or not? The promoter is the one taking the risk. the band gets paid whether anyone buys a seat or not.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: April 17, 2013 16:33

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Exactly right. Mick is irreplaceable, and as much as everyone on this board would hate it, 'the Rolling Stones' could tour without any single of the other members, but without Mick no way.


The Canadian public school system has really let you down...

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: April 17, 2013 16:33

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What do they care if the tickets sell or not? The promoter is the one taking the risk. the band gets paid whether anyone buys a seat or not.

If the promoter gets stuck with a load of unsold tickets that they suddenly have to unload at the last minute for $85, they're going to take a bath, and it will be impossible for the Stones to find another promoter that will let them get away with charging these prices ever again.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: April 17, 2013 16:35

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What do they care if the tickets sell or not? The promoter is the one taking the risk. the band gets paid whether anyone buys a seat or not.

If the promoter gets stuck with a load of unsold tickets that they suddenly have to unload at the last minute for $85, they're going to take a bath, and it will be impossible for the Stones to find another promoter that will let them get away with charging these prices ever again.


But what about their fragile egos? We have to pay for that y'know...

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 17, 2013 17:39

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Exactly right. Mick is irreplaceable, and as much as everyone on this board would hate it, 'the Rolling Stones' could tour without any single of the other members, but without Mick no way.


The Canadian public school system has really let you down...

Not really...it's about managing expectations.

I set my sights really low.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: R ()
Date: April 17, 2013 18:00

If you've noticed the $600 seats end at about center court. Everything from there to the stage is Silver, Gold or Hospitality costing $1,000 and up. If these onsales follow the pattern of Newark and Brooklyn, a lot of $450 seats are going to morph into $250 seats and $600 to $450. You couldn't give away an extra after the Brooklyn show was added. I know. I tried.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: April 17, 2013 18:03

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If you've noticed the $600 seats end at about center court. Everything from there to the stage is Silver, Gold or Hospitality costing $1,000 and up. If these onsales follow the pattern of Newark and Brooklyn, a lot of $450 seats are going to morph into $250 seats and $600 to $450. You couldn't give away an extra after the Brooklyn show was added. I know. I tried.


I'll take it...

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: April 17, 2013 18:04

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What do they care if the tickets sell or not? The promoter is the one taking the risk. the band gets paid whether anyone buys a seat or not.

If the promoter gets stuck with a load of unsold tickets that they suddenly have to unload at the last minute for $85, they're going to take a bath, and it will be impossible for the Stones to find another promoter that will let them get away with charging these prices ever again.
Oh boy. Its a good thing they aren't 70 and they need to worry about finding a promoter for future tours. Honestly, that'd be perfect for them. They charge insane prices. If it works, great. If it doesn't, they are screwed in terms of ever charging that much again, but they still get paid. And most likely they won't be touring much longer so even if this tour ruins their chances of getting a promoter again, its not like they realistically needed to worry about keeping their options open.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: daytime ()
Date: April 17, 2013 19:40

Maybe if they dont sell the high price seats day of show maybe they will be reduced to low prices,

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: reg thorpe ()
Date: April 17, 2013 19:59

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Maybe if they dont sell the high price seats day of show maybe they will be reduced to low prices,

I think not

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: rambler44 ()
Date: April 17, 2013 20:04

Exactly right. Mick is irreplaceable, and as much as everyone on this board would hate it, 'the Rolling Stones' could tour without any single of the other members, but without Mick no way.[/quote]

This is a ludicrous statement. Have you happened to notice the THREE constants in this band while others come and go??? The Rolling Stones are: Jagger, Richards, & Watts. They are ALL irreplaceable and the Stones could not tour as the Stones without any one of them.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: April 17, 2013 20:24

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R
If you've noticed the $600 seats end at about center court. Everything from there to the stage is Silver, Gold or Hospitality costing $1,000 and up. If these onsales follow the pattern of Newark and Brooklyn, a lot of $450 seats are going to morph into $250 seats and $600 to $450. You couldn't give away an extra after the Brooklyn show was added. I know. I tried.

If you look at the Staples map, I think it's already beginning to happen It looks like some of the $600s have turned into $450s

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: PeanutGallery ()
Date: April 17, 2013 21:18

Already past — it was April 15th, rather than the end of the month.

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Eventually they will be all sold out - somehow. I totally agree that for nosebleed seats a 600 to 700 $ Ticket is way out of range. At the end you can gamble on the 85$ or go for the safety seat. I think this is by far very fair. If you intend to spoil yourself go for the VIP thing. I assume Vegas will be sold out in no time. Once the tax year is done (end of April for US) they will go for tickets even if they are higher priced.
For sure secondary market will drop like in November and December.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: camper88 ()
Date: April 17, 2013 21:20

I can attest to this issue. I've got two Mouth Pit tix for the 2nd Toronto show that I've been trying to sell for face and there are no buyers.

I can't complain, I hit the "pay now" button. But it is interesting that the prices are at the edge of reason . . . or just a bit beyond.


On the internet nobody knows
you're Mick Jagger

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: Grison ()
Date: April 17, 2013 21:28

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I can attest to this issue. I've got two Mouth Pit tix for the 2nd Toronto show that I've been trying to sell for face and there are no buyers.

I can't complain, I hit the "pay now" button. But it is interesting that the prices are at the edge of reason . . . or just a bit beyond.

But then you bought the VIP Package or what?

I know that prices also tumbled in November and December on secondary markets and after London I was very much attempted to fly to NY for one of the concerts as the Pit went way below $1000.

However depending on what you want and how far you travel I did not want to take any risk and booked the tickets before the flights. Then again the flight prices out of Switzeland hit me harder than the ticket prices. It all depends.

Re: High Priced Tickets not Selling
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: April 17, 2013 21:47

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Already past — it was April 15th, rather than the end of the month.

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Grison
Eventually they will be all sold out - somehow. I totally agree that for nosebleed seats a 600 to 700 $ Ticket is way out of range. At the end you can gamble on the 85$ or go for the safety seat. I think this is by far very fair. If you intend to spoil yourself go for the VIP thing. I assume Vegas will be sold out in no time. Once the tax year is done (end of April for US) they will go for tickets even if they are higher priced.
For sure secondary market will drop like in November and December.

Yes, but refunds aren't mailed until mid-May or so, if you've waited till April 15th to file.

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