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Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Per-Arne ()
Date: April 13, 2013 19:15

I ordered the two arenashows from O2 last year from Gilles 13 december 2012 and paid for them via PayPal the same day.
I also gave a friend of mine his adress and he ordered them a cople of days later (When he was home again from the Newark-shows)
None of us have received them, but both of us get new mails to buy more stuff.
We got mails 2 jauary, 16 february, 28 february, 10 march and 30 march.
When I asked for the records in a mail (16.January)I got an answer that he has been busy and had to reimport them again Then I asked again in new mail 9 feb,28 feb, 20 march and 30 march. The same has also my friend done.

Here is a copy of my last mail - also without an answer.
My friend Terje and myself are both still waiting for:




Gr830 Gr832

Everybody, Rattle Your Jewelry (GR 830/831) and Champagne, Reefer And A Red Headed Woman (GR 832/833)

They was ordered the 13th desember last year. A couple of days later from Terje (when he was back from the Newark-shows)

This was your answer a month later (16 january 2013):
yes very very busy = have had to reimport them again: sorry
will do it this week
thx
Gilles

It’s now more than 3 and a half month since we ordered and paid for them, why have we not got them yet?
Please send also the answer to Terje.


Per-Arne




From: Megad78@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:46 AM
Subject: rare/live CD's: news Godfather (March) + 2 new LP BOXes


Today it's the 13 april and we still waiting for the records.

It's your own choice if you want to buy records from him, but be careful.
.......and don't say you have not been warned


Per-Arne

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Per-Arne ()
Date: April 13, 2013 19:19

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Per-Arne
I ordered the two arenashows from O2 last year from Gilles 13 december 2012 and paid for them via PayPal the same day.
I also gave a friend of mine his adress and he ordered them a cople of days later (When he was home again from the Newark-shows)
None of us have received them, but both of us get new mails to buy more stuff.
We got mails 2 jauary, 16 february, 28 february, 10 march and 30 march.
When I asked for the records in a mail (16.January)I got an answer that he has been busy and had to reimport them again Then I asked again in new mail 9 feb,28 feb, 20 march and 30 march - No reply on the last 4 mails. The same has also my friend done.

Here is a copy of my last mail - also without an answer.
My friend Terje and myself are both still waiting for:




Gr830 Gr832

Everybody, Rattle Your Jewelry (GR 830/831) and Champagne, Reefer And A Red Headed Woman (GR 832/833)

They was ordered the 13th desember last year. A couple of days later from Terje (when he was back from the Newark-shows)

This was your answer a month later (16 january 2013):
yes very very busy = have had to reimport them again: sorry
will do it this week
thx
Gilles

It’s now more than 3 and a half month since we ordered and paid for them, why have we not got them yet?
Please send also the answer to Terje.


Per-Arne




From: Megad78@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:46 AM
Subject: rare/live CD's: news Godfather (March) + 2 new LP BOXes


Today it's the 13 april and we still waiting for the records.

It's your own choice if you want to buy records from him, but be careful.
.......and don't say you have not been warned


Per-Arne

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: AP ()
Date: April 13, 2013 19:28

Same situation happened with me.

Still waiting for the records. The latest email I got from him was from March 19:

im very very sorry
i completely forgot you as i m very very busy with this Stones 2012 stuff (& i sella ny pop/rock band...)
problems with a french site wher i sell too
will tell you when it is in the mail

i know this is not serious & apologize for this...

Gilles

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: windmelody ()
Date: April 13, 2013 19:36

I feel relieved. I have never ordered records from Gilles.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-13 19:37 by windmelody.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: crumbling_mice ()
Date: April 13, 2013 19:48

Sorry to hear that and I hope he eventually sends the boots out to you. Why pay for them in the begining though? It's an easy process to download just about any bootleg you require and they usually have the art work, but there are lots of artwork sites.

I don;t agree with paying for bootlegs and they will have downloaded them for free I bet and thus are exploiting people


Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Roadster32 ()
Date: April 13, 2013 19:52

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windmelody
I feel relieved. I have never ordered records from Gilles.

I have and no complaints from my side.

If you want your money back contact paypal. Should be very easy.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: AP ()
Date: April 13, 2013 20:04

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Roadster32

If you want your money back contact paypal. Should be very easy.

Unfortunately one has only 45 days from the payment date to open a dispute.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Roadster32 ()
Date: April 13, 2013 20:08

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AP
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Roadster32

If you want your money back contact paypal. Should be very easy.

Unfortunately one has only 45 days from the payment date to open a dispute.

Well, he can try it anyway. I did in a few cases and succeed.

On the other hand it's also his fault as well not to have reacted within that period.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Per-Arne ()
Date: April 13, 2013 20:36

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Roadster32
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AP
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Roadster32

If you want your money back contact paypal. Should be very easy.

Unfortunately one has only 45 days from the payment date to open a dispute.

Well, he can try it anyway. I did in a few cases and succeed.

On the other hand it's also his fault as well not to have reacted within that period.

Just gave him a fair chance to send them.
I will post here if the CD's will arrive, or he will return the money.

Per-Arne

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: April 13, 2013 20:57

Sometimes, it takes months to recieve the CDs from Gilles.
BUT - they always arrive, eventually. Gilles is an honest guy
If you don't care for waiting any longer, ask for a refund; and he'll give you that.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: andrewm ()
Date: April 13, 2013 21:13

Yeah, agree with Erik. In the past I've found stuff from Gilles has taken quite some time but it has always arrived eventually. I understand your frustration, but I'm sure he's not intentionally jerking you around, for what it's worth.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: gilles ()
Date: April 14, 2013 00:44

yes this is true

i have many personnal problems (some illness) since a few monthes
buy i will ship you what i owe you
i am very sorry for this & perfectly understand this point of view
& i apologize for this
i do not forget you


Quote
Per-Arne
I ordered the two arenashows from O2 last year from Gilles 13 december 2012 and paid for them via PayPal the same day.
I also gave a friend of mine his adress and he ordered them a cople of days later (When he was home again from the Newark-shows)
None of us have received them, but both of us get new mails to buy more stuff.
We got mails 2 jauary, 16 february, 28 february, 10 march and 30 march.
When I asked for the records in a mail (16.January)I got an answer that he has been busy and had to reimport them again Then I asked again in new mail 9 feb,28 feb, 20 march and 30 march. The same has also my friend done.

Here is a copy of my last mail - also without an answer.
My friend Terje and myself are both still waiting for:




Gr830 Gr832

Everybody, Rattle Your Jewelry (GR 830/831) and Champagne, Reefer And A Red Headed Woman (GR 832/833)

They was ordered the 13th desember last year. A couple of days later from Terje (when he was back from the Newark-shows)

This was your answer a month later (16 january 2013):
yes very very busy = have had to reimport them again: sorry
will do it this week
thx
Gilles

It’s now more than 3 and a half month since we ordered and paid for them, why have we not got them yet?
Please send also the answer to Terje.


Per-Arne




From: Megad78@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:46 AM
Subject: rare/live CD's: news Godfather (March) + 2 new LP BOXes


Today it's the 13 april and we still waiting for the records.

It's your own choice if you want to buy records from him, but be careful.
.......and don't say you have not been warned


Per-Arne

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Per-Arne ()
Date: April 14, 2013 02:06

Thanks!

Per-Arne

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Tonstone ()
Date: April 14, 2013 02:36

Gus wise up - when buying bootleg material you aint dealing with amazon - 'You Pays your money - You take your chance!! - When it comes through - you have scored.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: gilles ()
Date: April 14, 2013 11:33

no sorry im not OK, this is not question of bootlegs; if i have problems i could sell softwares or handy phones it would be the same

im not organized as well as i would like...

anyway this is not correct for the buyer & i cannot argue...

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Tonstone
Gus wise up - when buying bootleg material you aint dealing with amazon - 'You Pays your money - You take your chance!! - When it comes through - you have scored.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Per-Arne ()
Date: April 20, 2013 00:14

Got the CD's in the post today.
And my friend got a mail today, with the message that his CD's on their way.
Thanks Gilles.

Per-Arne

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 20, 2013 00:44

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Per-Arne
Got the CD's in the post today.
And my friend got a mail today, with the message that his CD's on their way.
Thanks Gilles.

Per-Arne

may want to consider retitling your thread.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: MILKYWAY ()
Date: April 20, 2013 02:23

Sounds like that guy John Aii-something who used to post on here. Dude had some cool LPs but must have been using the pony express to mail them because it took ages.


Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Per-Arne ()
Date: April 20, 2013 02:29

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treaclefingers
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Per-Arne
Got the CD's in the post today.
And my friend got a mail today, with the message that his CD's on their way.
Thanks Gilles.

Per-Arne

may want to consider retitling your thread.

Why?
I have bought Stones-bootlegs since the early seventies (That's more than 40 years now!) so I think I have a bit experience about that. But I think 1/3 year is too long to wait. I have NO problems with Gilles. He told me why when I posted here, an answer I was missing in private mails. And I have no reason to not belive him, I have ordered from him before without problems. It's all about trust I think. If your adress was not hidden, I had sent you a private mail about this, not on the net. (2 different ways to see things without the public) English is not my native language - but as far as I can see "Be careful" is not over the line.
And I think it's important to give a message back that everything is OK after starting this tread., when I recived the cd's today
Anyway, I think more than 4 months is too long to wait.

Per-Arne

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: April 20, 2013 08:02

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Per-Arne
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treaclefingers
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Per-Arne
Got the CD's in the post today.
And my friend got a mail today, with the message that his CD's on their way.
Thanks Gilles.

Per-Arne

may want to consider retitling your thread.

Why?
I have bought Stones-bootlegs since the early seventies (That's more than 40 years now!) so I think I have a bit experience about that. But I think 1/3 year is too long to wait...

I have to agree - why retitle the thread, it looks like one must be careful when buying from him. And, to reiterate the point made by Crumbling Mice - why is anyone paying for bootlegs these days, when they are available for free, usually as flac and with artwork? I've downloaded hundreds of bootlegs for free, and I don't think I've paid for one since the late 90s.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: andrewm ()
Date: April 20, 2013 08:32

Good for you.

Complaint about an order delay - bootleg
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: April 20, 2013 12:01

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Per-Arne
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treaclefingers
Quote
Per-Arne
Got the CD's in the post today.
And my friend got a mail today, with the message that his CD's on their way.
Thanks Gilles.

Per-Arne

may want to consider retitling your thread.

Why?
I have bought Stones-bootlegs since the early seventies (That's more than 40 years now!) so I think I have a bit experience about that. But I think 1/3 year is too long to wait. I have NO problems with Gilles. He told me why when I posted here, an answer I was missing in private mails. And I have no reason to not belive him, I have ordered from him before without problems. It's all about trust I think. If your adress was not hidden, I had sent you a private mail about this, not on the net. (2 different ways to see things without the public) English is not my native language - but as far as I can see "Be careful" is not over the line.
And I think it's important to give a message back that everything is OK after starting this tread., when I recived the cd's today
Anyway, I think more than 4 months is too long to wait.

Per-Arne

You could change the title to " Complaint about an order delay - bootleg".

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: windmelody ()
Date: April 20, 2013 12:11

May Gilles be blessed!

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Date: April 20, 2013 12:17

I just liked it when the seller said "this is not serious" winking smiley

Re: Complaint about an order delay - bootleg
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 20, 2013 19:01

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Redhotcarpet
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Per-Arne
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treaclefingers
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Per-Arne
Got the CD's in the post today.
And my friend got a mail today, with the message that his CD's on their way.
Thanks Gilles.

Per-Arne

may want to consider retitling your thread.

Why?
I have bought Stones-bootlegs since the early seventies (That's more than 40 years now!) so I think I have a bit experience about that. But I think 1/3 year is too long to wait. I have NO problems with Gilles. He told me why when I posted here, an answer I was missing in private mails. And I have no reason to not belive him, I have ordered from him before without problems. It's all about trust I think. If your adress was not hidden, I had sent you a private mail about this, not on the net. (2 different ways to see things without the public) English is not my native language - but as far as I can see "Be careful" is not over the line.
And I think it's important to give a message back that everything is OK after starting this tread., when I recived the cd's today
Anyway, I think more than 4 months is too long to wait.

Per-Arne

You could change the title to " Complaint about an order delay - bootleg".

Certainly don't change it if you still feel slighted. I had thought 'all had been forgiven' given your glee at receiving the item, but obviously I was wrong.

BTW, how is one supposed to 'be careful' on an order that arrives late? I think 'be patient' would be a more accurate description for your concern...your other description leads one to believe something 'shady' is going on.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-04-20 19:06 by treaclefingers.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: donvis ()
Date: April 20, 2013 19:11

There is no excuse for conducting business in that manner. No one wants to wait months.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 20, 2013 19:45

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donvis
There is no excuse for conducting business in that manner. No one wants to wait months.

drugs, alcohol?

I can think of several good excuses.

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: Per-Arne ()
Date: April 25, 2013 19:54

My friend got his stuff 2 days ago, so everything is OK now.
Thanks to Gilles for sorting out the problems/delay in a fair way.


Per-Arne

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: April 25, 2013 21:42

that sucks big time .

Re: Be careful with buying records from Gilles
Posted by: AP ()
Date: June 29, 2013 10:51

Got my stuff eventually also.

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