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Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: lettingitbleed ()
Date: March 22, 2013 17:23

Here are six words I thought I'd never hear myself say: "I can relate to Mick Jagger."

You might think that there wouldn't be much common ground between a 69-year-old British rock 'n' roll icon and a 45-year-old Mexican-American columnist. But there is. Apparently, our philosophies on raising kids without spoiling them with parental handouts are quite similar.

This information comes courtesy of Jagger's chatty ex-wife, Jerry Hall. According to the British tabloid newspaper The Daily Mail, Hall said she has been pressuring Jagger -- unsuccessfully, I might add -- to dip into his fortune (estimated at about $300 million) and buy houses for three of his kids who are in their 20s.

Yes, that's right. I said houses. Not cars or clothes or jet skis.

Hall is going for broke and asking Jagger to purchase houses for the three children -- Lizzie, 29, James, 27, and Georgia, 21. The daughters are models, and the son is a musician. The couple has a fourth child, Gabriel, 15, but he still lives at home with his mom.

The way that Jerry sees it, Mick can easily afford the purchase. The multimillionaire reportedly has five homes of his own. So what's the problem?

The problem, according to the tabloid newspaper, is that Jagger, who is known to be "famously careful with his pennies," is firmly opposed to these types of "parental housing subsidies." According to the newspaper, the Jagger thinks that his children have already enjoyed many advantages in life and that setting them up in their own homes will do more harm than good.

Those who know Jagger well -- including his oldest daughter, Jade, who is the only child of his marriage to ex-wife Bianca -- say that he strongly believes that children ought not think themselves entitled to their parents' money and that they have to make their own way in life.

Jade, who has her own jewelry store, told the newspaper: "I was never a trust-fund child. Dad's got a healthy attitude toward work. You have to look after yourself."

Bravo. Americans really need to hear that message. And not just our kids; all of us should get an earful. At a time when runaway entitlement spending and a national debt of more than $16 trillion threaten the economic future of the United States, the national motto has become "Where's mine?"

Now more than ever, Americans need to understand that part of being a good parent is teaching their adult children to stand on their own two feet.

As a parent of three young children, I can imagine that this isn't easy to do. My kids know that I'm an easy mark. And I struggle daily with saying no -- or, in some cases, with making them do chores and save their allowances to buy things on their own.

But I understand where Jagger is coming from, and I applaud him. He's on the right track, and a lot of other people are on the wrong one.

Somewhere, in the vast universe of parenting, we lost our way. We've convinced ourselves that loving our kids also means supporting them more than we need to. That is not so. Caring for our children is one thing, but making them dependent on us well into adulthood is another. The former is the sign of a good parent; the latter is a recipe for trouble.

Billionaire Warren Buffet refers to it as the "lottery of the womb" -- this sense that some people have that they are entitled to their parents' money through inheritance or lavish gifts.

In writing about parenting over the years, and talking about it with other parents, I've become convinced that a lot of parents with young children worry more that they're giving their kids too much rather than too little. The concern is that in trying to keep their kids from struggling, they're making their lives too comfy. At the very least, most of us are probably giving our kids much more than what we were given by our parents when we were growing up. We need to ask: What harm is this doing?

These days, when you're raising kids, materialism doesn't merely knock on your door. It busts through. Ten-year-olds are asking for cell phones.

When our kids want something and ask us for it, we might ask ourselves three questions: Is it a good price? Can we afford it? Do they deserve it?

But those are the wrong questions. We need ask ourselves only one question: Will buying my child this item teach him positive values or negative ones?

You see, it doesn't matter how much money Mick Jagger has or what he can afford. That is not the issue. The issue is that he's trying to teach his children some values, something that isn't always easy to do when you're one of the megawealthy.

Like the saying goes, you want to leave your kids enough money so they can do something with their lives -- but not so much that they can do nothing.

[www.cnn.com]

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: March 22, 2013 17:54

Lettingitbleed, congratulations on a very thoughtful post.

Always hard to take the Daily Mail too seriously...they regularly have many of their facts wrong.

However, even though it is not of our business, fact is that Elizabeth and Georgia have lucrative modeling careers and are well able to buy their own homes.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: lettingitbleed ()
Date: March 22, 2013 18:23

stonesrule, thank you but this is NOT my writing! This is copied from an article on cnn.com (link to original article at bottom of post)

True that you cannot trust the Daily Mail...could be total bollocks.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: March 22, 2013 18:32

Anyway, Jade's one to talk...Mick bought her her finca in Ibiza, as well as at least one of her houses in London.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: March 22, 2013 18:50

let the children of jerry and mick go and work in townships in south africa.
that will teach them.
spoiled brats.

jeroen

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stupidguy2 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 20:04

Mick and Keith may have helped Marlon and Jade purchase homes - that's what parents often do - but I don't think they support them and they live separate lives with their own families, have found a niche in a profession..... That's the difference.
I think its the suggestion that 'chatty' Jerry expects Mick to just do everything for them.
But who knows. Its the Daily Mail.
And Bliss, the quote from Jade is misleading. Its an old quote from an article that has nothing to do with her siblings or the situation. The article suggests she was responding to Jerry and her 'fight'.
But agin, its the Daily Mail.



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Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: March 22, 2013 20:16

Jeroen, since you don't know these people how can you be sure they are "spoiled brats"?

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: LiveAtHidepark ()
Date: March 22, 2013 20:16

I can give half a dollar, that's all I can do. If it can help Jagger & Hall children.

disgusting people.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: elunsi ()
Date: March 22, 2013 20:28

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Bliss
Anyway, Jade's one to talk...Mick bought her her finca in Ibiza, as well as at least one of her houses in London.

Maybe she bought it by herself? Jade has always been a very successful buisnesswoman.
[jadejagger.co.uk]

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: March 22, 2013 21:44

LiveatHidePark...at least Jagger's children can spell.

This world-famous place you've named yourself for is Hyde Park.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stupidguy2 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 21:52

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elunsi
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Bliss
Anyway, Jade's one to talk...Mick bought her her finca in Ibiza, as well as at least one of her houses in London.

Maybe she bought it by herself? Jade has always been a very successful buisnesswoman.
[jadejagger.co.uk]

Those are beautiful pieces. A lot of reds, deep blues offset by silver and black.
She has a wonderful aesthetic.
She also seems to have an independent, industrious streak.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: elunsi ()
Date: March 22, 2013 22:16

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stupidguy2
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elunsi
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Bliss
Anyway, Jade's one to talk...Mick bought her her finca in Ibiza, as well as at least one of her houses in London.

Maybe she bought it by herself? Jade has always been a very successful buisnesswoman.
[jadejagger.co.uk]

Those are beautiful pieces. A lot of reds, deep blues offset by silver and black.
She has a wonderful aesthetic.
She also seems to have an independent, industrious streak.

Yes. And she does interior designs for hotels around the world. This house in Ibiza is her´s, I think I read that she wants to sell it.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: March 22, 2013 22:40

It could be a ploy of Jerry's to get Mick to buy her another house. Because if Mick should buy a house each for all the kids, and since Gabriel lives at home with Jerry, then buying one for Gabriel would mean buying one for Jerry.

But I've got a better idea. Mick should build a replica version of 102 Edith Grove in all its former legendary squalid glory--complete with gobs on the wall--and have the four kids live together in it with virtually no money for a year, just so they will know what led them to enjoy the life of comfort and privilege they know today.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: LiveAtHidepark ()
Date: March 22, 2013 23:36

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stonesrule
LiveatHidePark...at least Jagger's children can spell.

This world-famous place you've named yourself for is Hyde Park.

Have you ever heard about a bootleg LP called "Live At Hidepark" ???

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: March 22, 2013 23:45

I'm aware of numerous "Live From Hyde Park" bootlegs and videos.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: March 22, 2013 23:57

I bet there are a lot of holes in that Daily Mail story, so I don't take it too seriously. But, I will say that what to buy and how much to spend on children is relative, like most things in life. For instance, about four years ago we bought an old Grandma car that my daughter hated on sight, but it runs and now she and her sister share it. If I had Mick's money, I'd probably buy each of them their own and get them newer, less repair prone cars. I lived in a house once in Georgetown that was owned by a rich Saudi who bought the house for his kids to live in while they attended Georgetown University. I pay the rent for my daughter to share a place where she goes to college. Maybe I'd buy her a townhouse there, if I was rich, I don't know. All I'm saying is, we all spend money on our kids, relative to our income. I don't find it that unusual that Mick and Keith would buy homes for their children. They can easily afford it, and it doesn't mean their kids are any more spoiled than the average suburban mall kids around where I live, including my own. They are just used to a completely different lifestyle. Hopefully, all of the Stones children have at least been instilled with some humility and are truly grateful for all that they have. That's about all any of us can do.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: LiveAtHidepark ()
Date: March 22, 2013 23:57

"Live At Hidepark" is a bootleg LP with "i" instead of "y". a rare japanese bootleg.

so, what is your problem with my name ?

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stupidguy2 ()
Date: March 23, 2013 01:06

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latebloomer
I bet there are a lot of holes in that Daily Mail story, so I don't take it too seriously. But, I will say that what to buy and how much to spend on children is relative, like most things in life. For instance, about four years ago we bought an old Grandma car that my daughter hated on sight, but it runs and now she and her sister share it. If I had Mick's money, I'd probably buy each of them their own and get them newer, less repair prone cars. I lived in a house once in Georgetown that was owned by a rich Saudi who bought the house for his kids to live in while they attended Georgetown University. I pay the rent for my daughter to share a place where she goes to college. Maybe I'd buy her a townhouse there, if I was rich, I don't know. All I'm saying is, we all spend money on our kids, relative to our income. I don't find it that unusual that Mick and Keith would buy homes for their children. They can easily afford it, and it doesn't mean their kids are any more spoiled than the average suburban mall kids around where I live, including my own. They are just used to a completely different lifestyle. Hopefully, all of the Stones children have at least been instilled with some humility and are truly grateful for all that they have. That's about all any of us can do.

Exactly. My father helped me buy my first car...and I know if I ever needed anything, he would be there for me because he is position to do so.
That's what parents (who are able) do.



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Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: March 23, 2013 02:14

Thanks for the explanation "Live".

Is Tokeeo correct spelling for Tokyo?

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: millerman60 ()
Date: March 23, 2013 05:04

When I was a kid my dad would tell me what he expected to be done by the time he got home from work(mow the lawn,weed the garden,stack wood,etc.). I wanted to know what he was going to pay me. His response was "You're eating supper tonight, aren't you. You've got a roof over your head, don't you."

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: owlbynite ()
Date: March 23, 2013 07:24

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millerman60
When I was a kid my dad would tell me what he expected to be done by the time he got home from work(mow the lawn,weed the garden,stack wood,etc.). I wanted to know what he was going to pay me. His response was "You're eating supper tonight, aren't you. You've got a roof over your head, don't you."

Exactly what I tell my kids...get dumbfounded looks...

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: March 25, 2013 21:38

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elunsi
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stupidguy2
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elunsi
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Bliss
Anyway, Jade's one to talk...Mick bought her her finca in Ibiza, as well as at least one of her houses in London.

Maybe she bought it by herself? Jade has always been a very successful buisnesswoman.
[jadejagger.co.uk]

Those are beautiful pieces. A lot of reds, deep blues offset by silver and black.
She has a wonderful aesthetic.
She also seems to have an independent, industrious streak.

Yes. And she does interior designs for hotels around the world. This house in Ibiza is her´s, I think I read that she wants to sell it.

Mick definintely bought it for her, and her first house in Britain as well.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: March 25, 2013 22:37

No good deed goes unpunished at IORR, nosyparker capital of the world.

Like many other grandparents (wealthy or otherwise) Jagger was helpful to Jade regarding property at a time when she was raising two young children before her jewelry design and other business interests took off.



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Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stupidguy2 ()
Date: March 26, 2013 03:26

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stonesrule
No good deed goes unpunished at IORR, nosyparker capital of the world.

Like many other grandparents (wealthy or otherwise) Jagger was helpful to Jade regarding property at a time when she was raising two young children before her jewelry design and other business interests took off.

lol...True.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: March 26, 2013 09:40

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stonesrule
No good deed goes unpunished at IORR, nosyparker capital of the world.

Like many other grandparents (wealthy or otherwise) Jagger was helpful to Jade regarding property at a time when she was raising two young children before her jewelry design and other business interests took off.

Of course. But she makes such a point about her marvelous work ethic and how she never received any help from her father. He also got her job as 'creative director' at Asprey, through his contacts. As if her own efforts would have ever got her in the door.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: March 26, 2013 11:59

Jerry is right. The kids are already too spoilt. Beyond repair. None of them will be able to handle an ordinary job. They need to be pampered the rest of their lives. Sure, they can live of their surnames modelling or some other light work for a while. But that won't last forever. So, Sir Michael: Buy your kids some houses, Sir! But no castles please...

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: March 26, 2013 18:17

"Too spoilt" How would YOU know?

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: March 26, 2013 18:31

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stonesrule
"Too spoilt" How would YOU know?

Money corrupts everyone. If you don't have to work: Why should you? How many rich celebrity kids obtain regular 9-5 jobs?

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: elunsi ()
Date: March 26, 2013 20:26

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Bliss
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stonesrule
No good deed goes unpunished at IORR, nosyparker capital of the world.

Like many other grandparents (wealthy or otherwise) Jagger was helpful to Jade regarding property at a time when she was raising two young children before her jewelry design and other business interests took off.

Of course. But she makes such a point about her marvelous work ethic and how she never received any help from her father. He also got her job as 'creative director' at Asprey, through his contacts. As if her own efforts would have ever got her in the door.

Hi, Bliss, I know she said that Mick bought her an appartement in London (in that interview she said also she was no Trust Fund child), but I still believe that she bought that finca by herself. Do you have other sources? And to be honest, I don´t think that Mick got her that job, that is not his style. If you look at her designs you see that she IS talented. No hotel would give her the job if she wasn´t.

Re: Jerry Want Mick To Buy Houses For The Kids
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: March 26, 2013 21:52

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elunsi
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Bliss
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stonesrule
No good deed goes unpunished at IORR, nosyparker capital of the world.

Like many other grandparents (wealthy or otherwise) Jagger was helpful to Jade regarding property at a time when she was raising two young children before her jewelry design and other business interests took off.

Of course. But she makes such a point about her marvelous work ethic and how she never received any help from her father. He also got her job as 'creative director' at Asprey, through his contacts. As if her own efforts would have ever got her in the door.

Hi, Bliss, I know she said that Mick bought her an appartement in London (in that interview she said also she was no Trust Fund child), but I still believe that she bought that finca by herself. Do you have other sources? And to be honest, I don´t think that Mick got her that job, that is not his style. If you look at her designs you see that she IS talented. No hotel would give her the job if she wasn´t.

I don't think I can dig up the sources for what I posted. I recall reading that Mick bought her a farmhouse in Wales, which I thought was her first property.

I definitely read that Mick knew Laurence Stroll, one of the owners of Asprey-Garrard and that is how Jade got the job. To be fair, she hung on to it for seven years. Her jewellery designs are nothing special - all copies of antique (mostly Indian) pieces, and beads. Her interiors are equally uninspired (to me). When her house in Holland Park was up for sale, I thought the interior was a horror - a stripper pole in the bathroom, etc. She has no formal training in either interior design or jewellery.

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