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My guess is that Taylor is the guitar low in the mix doing the arpeggios
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Correct. Taylor's part is farily insignificant on this track, there's half a dozen guitars dubbed over it by Jagger and Richards.
Well, the GUITAR part is insignificant, isn't it? No matter who plays it. This track is all about Hopkins' piano, the vocal melody, the sax by Sonny Rollins. The main guitar part is Richards, and Taylor adds little fills here and there. But that could even be one guitar part, by either Jagger, Richards or Taylor. It doesn't really matter because it is just strumming G, F, C and Aminor chords.
If it was Jimi Hendrix on guitar I would have said it was an insignificant Jimi Hendrix guitar part.
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Taylor's guitar intro is fairly significant though. What's a nice house without a beautifull doorbell, bugger?
The intro isn't Taylor.
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Sounds Mick Taylor to me, but the intro is just nice and frienly neutral strumming, so it might as well be Keith, or anybody, I don't care, but that's not really my point.
My point is that your statement: "Taylor's part is farily insignificant on this track" is your usual Taylor bullshit talk.
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My guess is that Taylor is the guitar low in the mix doing the arpeggios
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Correct. Taylor's part is farily insignificant on this track, there's half a dozen guitars dubbed over it by Jagger and Richards.
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Taylor's guitar intro is fairly significant though. What's a nice house without a beautifull doorbell, bugger?
The intro isn't Taylor.
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Sounds Mick Taylor to me, but the intro is just nice and frienly neutral strumming, so it might as well be Keith, or anybody, I don't care, but that's not really my point.
My point is that your statement: "Taylor's part is farily insignificant on this track" is your usual Taylor bullshit talk.
Well, the GUITAR part is insignificant, isn't it? No matter who plays it. This track is all about Hopkins' piano, the vocal melody, the sax by Sonny Rollins. The main guitar part is Richards, and Taylor adds little fills here and there. But that could even be one guitar part, by either Jagger, Richards or Taylor. It doesn't really matter because it is just strumming G, F, C and Aminor chords.
If it was Jimi Hendrix on guitar I would have said it was an insignificant Jimi Hendrix guitar part.
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liddas
My guess is that Taylor is the guitar low in the mix doing the arpeggios
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Correct. Taylor's part is farily insignificant on this track, there's half a dozen guitars dubbed over it by Jagger and Richards.
Mathijs
Taylor's guitar intro is fairly significant though. What's a nice house without a beautifull doorbell, bugger?
The intro isn't Taylor.
Mathijs
Sounds Mick Taylor to me, but the intro is just nice and frienly neutral strumming, so it might as well be Keith, or anybody, I don't care, but that's not really my point.
My point is that your statement: "Taylor's part is farily insignificant on this track" is your usual Taylor bullshit talk.
When he is barely audible on the song, wouldn´t it be ok to say he´s "fairly insignificant"? What´s wrong with you, and why are you taking the fact that it isn´t Taylor playing the basic strumming on the intro so personal?
I think Mathijs can speak for himself, but I am sorry to read that you miss the emphahtic side of my remark. Feel free to lick anyone's arse though.
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A guitar part is never insignificant to me, be it a second or half an hour, unless someone is playing garbage. That's more important and respectful to me, regardless the player's identity.
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A guitar part is never insignificant to me, be it a second or half an hour, unless someone is playing garbage. That's more important and respectful to me, regardless the player's identity.
I would like to fart on your face.
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A guitar part is never insignificant to me, be it a second or half an hour, unless someone is playing garbage. That's more important and respectful to me, regardless the player's identity.
I would like to fart on your face.
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You are a piece of work. I really don't know what you are getting at here. He is almost inaudible, for christ 's sake!!!
I'm perfectly normal, but maybe you can arrange something with Mathijs, he's into things..well you read it.
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VT22, you go girl, all the Taylor haters can suck my farts too.
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You are a piece of work. I really don't know what you are getting at here. He is almost inaudible, for christ 's sake!!!
I'm perfectly normal, but maybe you can arrange something with Mathijs, he's into things..well you read it.
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You are a piece of work. I really don't know what you are getting at here. He is almost inaudible, for christ 's sake!!!
I'm perfectly normal, but maybe you can arrange something with Mathijs, he's into things..well you read it.
1. It is NOT Taylor doing the intro on WOAF.
2. His guitar part on the released track is NOT very important because we can barely hear him
3. Why don't you just listen to the track again?
4. Taking this (which isn't Taylor-criticism at all) personally is NOT a very "normal" reaction, imo.
5. What you and Mathijs do on your spare time is YOUR business. Leave me out of it...
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You are a piece of work. I really don't know what you are getting at here. He is almost inaudible, for christ 's sake!!!
I'm perfectly normal, but maybe you can arrange something with Mathijs, he's into things..well you read it.
1. It is NOT Taylor doing the intro on WOAF.
2. His guitar part on the released track is NOT very important because we can barely hear him
3. Why don't you just listen to the track again?
4. Taking this (which isn't Taylor-criticism at all) personally is NOT a very "normal" reaction, imo.
5. What you and Mathijs do on your spare time is YOUR business. Leave me out of it...
What's normal these days...you have made your musical points on this song a zillion times already, but that's not what I am interested in, I can think and listen for myself.
When it comes to Mathijs, just pulling your leg, as you would say it.. You both ( you to a lesser extend) have some Taylor criticism in common, when it comes to the importance of his role in the Stones and in general, put him down in a smelly way I don't like, if you haven't noticed it by now. At least that's how I read it, and I am not stupid. Lets leave it at that.
Enjoy your day.
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And your way of putting Ron Wood down (playing garbage for 35 years) is nothing but cheap. Clean up in your own house first, before you start pickin' on others.
Have a GREAT day yourself.
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And your way of putting Ron Wood down (playing garbage for 35 years) is nothing but cheap. Clean up in your own house first, before you start pickin' on others.
Have a GREAT day yourself.
At least I am no hypocrite.
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You are a piece of work. I really don't know what you are getting at here. He is almost inaudible, for christ 's sake!!!
I'm perfectly normal, but maybe you can arrange something with Mathijs, he's into things..well you read it.
1. It is NOT Taylor doing the intro on WOAF.
2. His guitar part on the released track is NOT very important because we can barely hear him
3. Why don't you just listen to the track again?
4. Taking this (which isn't Taylor-criticism at all) personally is NOT a very "normal" reaction, imo.
5. What you and Mathijs do on your spare time is YOUR business. Leave me out of it...
What's normal these days...you have made your musical points on this song a zillion times already, but that's not what I am interested in, I can think and listen for myself.
When it comes to Mathijs, just pulling your leg, as you would say it.. You both ( you to a lesser extend) have some Taylor criticism in common, when it comes to the importance of his role in the Stones and in general, put him down in a smelly way I don't like, if you haven't noticed it by now. At least that's how I read it, and I am not stupid. Lets leave it at that.
Enjoy your day.
As you once wrote: "I'm almost not listening to Mick Jagger when I listen to the Stones, only Taylor".
That's some of the difference between you and me. If you bother, you'll find lots of my criticism toward ALL band members during the years, Taylor included.
You enhance him like a holy saint - he's not.
And your way of putting Ron Wood down (playing garbage for 35 years) is nothing but cheap. Clean up in your own house first, before you start pickin' on others.
Have a GREAT day yourself.
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Oh no, actually we can get along very well, it's all show you know.
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Taylor hater? What a bollocks. But it is true that I am of the opinion that the second guitarists Jones/Taylor/Wood all are of much lesser importance than many on this board would like to believe. The Stones really are Watts/Jagger/Richards, and added with Bill Wyman live. I think Taylor was brilliant on the 72 and 73 tour, had a tendency to really overplay on the 69 to 71 tours, and had very limited input on the records they produced. I like the Wood years more, but not because of Wood or because Taylor was gone -I just find the band a much better, tighter and more aggressive band from 75 to 81.
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Taylor hater? What a bollocks. But it is true that I am of the opinion that the second guitarists Jones/Taylor/Wood all are of much lesser importance than many on this board would like to believe. The Stones really are Watts/Jagger/Richards, and added with Bill Wyman live. I think Taylor was brilliant on the 72 and 73 tour, had a tendency to really overplay on the 69 to 71 tours, and had very limited input on the records they produced. I like the Wood years more, but not because of Wood or because Taylor was gone -I just find the band a much better, tighter and more aggressive band from 75 to 81.
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And there it is, the but, straight after the denial><
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Uh, people. I mean, who's fighting and what for? Brothers and sisters. Everybody just cool out! Something very funny always happens when we start that number.
Why are we fighting? Why are we fighting?
We don't want to fight. Come on.
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Taylor hater? What a bollocks. But it is true that I am of the opinion that the second guitarists Jones/Taylor/Wood all are of much lesser importance than many on this board would like to believe. The Stones really are Watts/Jagger/Richards, and added with Bill Wyman live. I think Taylor was brilliant on the 72 and 73 tour, had a tendency to really overplay on the 69 to 71 tours, and had very limited input on the records they produced. I like the Wood years more, but not because of Wood or because Taylor was gone -I just find the band a much better, tighter and more aggressive band from 75 to 81.
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