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Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: Rev. Robert W. ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:46

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Cineplexed
Here's a few things that made the brooklyn show great for me:

-- Keith playing real rhythm guitar again without all the dopey posing. He actually played the full intro to BS. When was the last tour he did that? And he sounded absolutely fantastic on Rambler...IORR...GS etc.

I wanted to cry.

-- the guitars sounded really loud and meaty. Stones records always put the guitars way up front. Stones tours tend to put Mick up front. last might it felt a little more like the blistering balance on the records.

-- I complained loudly about guests but I really enjoyed going down with g Clark. It kicked ass. Better than the videos I saw of ec or beck. And both Ronnie and Keith's leads were great. I like when I am happily wrong about something. Though I thought Lisa fisher would have kicked Mary Jo's ass on gS.

-- all in all one of the best (not on paper but in show) set lists I've seen over 20 shows. It just kept moving no real lulls. Though personally I am sick of TD in concert and think they should drop sympathy as a closer. Bs was the closer.

However, I did feel a real twinge of sadness during this show. It will probably be my last. At least at these prices. And that would be a big life chapter coming to a close. And I felt a weariness from the band. They may have played their hearts out...but they felt a bit tired at moments.

Or maybe it was me....

Thanks for this. A very sharp and insightful review.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: NedKelly ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:46

Guess you weren't there, Send It To Me?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-12-09 17:54 by NedKelly.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:47

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superrevvy
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bv
And I have a confession to make... At the end of the show I thought... This is the time to call it quits.

Now there's something finally we can all agree on.

BV is coming over to the dark side? I sense a disturbance in the force.

My first thought on this is maybe he realizes that after all the rehearsals, two London shows and the long awaited arrival on the US shores in NY and the Stones roll out nothing but the same show with NO changes that it is getting stale and expensive even for him.

Of all the Stones greatness they have failed to appeal to their loyal base for the last 30 years. Most every band around them has led the way with innovations such as entire album productions, expanded setlists, exploring new territory. Instead they continue to latch on to the same warhorse run, short setlists, and dragging out guests to appeal to younger listeners. They did nothing special for that show last night. It appears as though they went through the motions. Only this time they charged people a fortune to witness it.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:47

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Send It To me
Seems like A Bigger Grr tour - a continuation of what they were doing in 2005-2007

that's too ehard to pronounce...can't we just call it the Biggr tour and be done with it?

I called this era make-believe 2007 and the true ending of the Bigger Bang tour
days ago.

But I did not think til now to call it the Biggrrr Bang tour. Thanks for your help.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-12-09 17:48 by superrevvy.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: NedKelly ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:52

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llargueras
Did you see the show and hear the songs? If not, do your zzzzzzzzing, because they were fantastic!

Do you know how many times I heard Brown Sugar live? and Jumping Jack Flash? For a lot of Iorrians the last gig is always the best... I'm sorry but my first Midnight Rambler in Barcelona 76, is the best I ever heard and I'm f***ing dissapointed to know the song will appear after the other. Do you know the meaning of "surprise" word?

I have no idea how many times you have heard bs, do you know how many times I have heard it? All I'm saying is if you find Stones boring, stay home. It's a choice everybody can make. I don't look for surprises anymore. I look for good songs performed well and the Stones delivers both brilliantly. But that's just my opinion.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: bleedingman ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:52

I was very close to Keith and, to me, he looked like he was in pain a good deal of the time. He moved very stiffly and his eyes often lacked focus, not to mention fire. Ronnie often stood close to him, as if trying to get his attention and "wake him up". A few times e.g. before "Sympathy" when they were off stage, behind the drums, Keith was stooped over a table, holding and steadying himself, looking like an 80 year-old man. Then he would take a deep breath and find his way back out to the stage. His solo in "Sympathy", to my ears, was a noodle-laced, uninspired drivel of notes.

Interesting to see/hear him screw up a very, very basic lick like the "Last Time" intro, made even more so by the fact that it was Brian who played this, back in the day.

I love Keith but, based on my observations, I can't see him doing this for very much longer.

I think the late start made it difficult for the band to gain initial momentum. After the first few songs, people applauded but it died down quickly. Mick was in fine form, especially considering his age, the consumate entertainer. Having said that, I felt awkward when he would come over, encouraging us to clap in every song. Sometimes I just want to listen or watch and clapping is just not my thing. He seems to watch the audience very carefully and I felt obligated to oblige him with clapping, but my heart wasn't in it.

The acoustics from where I sat were awful, it was hard to distinguish individual bass notes, even when Darryl did the solo in miss you. The bass seemed to wash over the guitars and it was a big mush of sound for the most part.

As bv stated, the staff at Barclay's couldn't have been friendlier, which made for a relaxing and pleasant vibe. No complaints there.

Glad I went but unless they play a much smaller venue, this will be my last Stones show, and that makes me sad.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-12-09 17:55 by bleedingman.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: roby ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:55


Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: NedKelly ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:56

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The Sicilian
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bv
And I have a confession to make... At the end of the show I thought... This is the time to call it quits.

Now there's something finally we can all agree on.

BV is coming over to the dark side? I sense a disturbance in the force.

My first thought on this is maybe he realizes that after all the rehearsals, two London shows and the long awaited arrival on the US shores in NY and the Stones roll out nothing but the same show with NO changes that it is getting stale and expensive even for him.

Of all the Stones greatness they have failed to appeal to their loyal base for the last 30 years. Most every band around them has led the way with innovations such as entire album productions, expanded setlists, exploring new territory. Instead they continue to latch on to the same warhorse run, short setlists, and dragging out guests to appeal to younger listeners. They did nothing special for that show last night. It appears as though they went through the motions. Only this time they charged people a fortune to witness it.

Did you see the show?

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:57

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bv
I don't want to compare shows. It is not fair. Not to the Stones. Not to those who are there. Some times the crowd and the band are in sync. Other times they are not. You do not rate your wife or your children based on their performance day by day, but you just love them, and respect them. Just like the Stones. For me.

I could write up a long list of issues and problems. Like the guy that arrived next to me with his "girl friend" and wanted me to leave my spot in favour of his "girl friend". He ruined most of "The Last Time", called me a looser and all other sorts of low live callings, and then I left for another spot, like I always do when there is a person that do not respect others at shows. I could have written a pissed off review and stated that Americans are rude and do not treat their guests well. But I do have manners, and in fact it is the opposite.

The Barclays Center hosts must be the most friendly hosts I have been to ever, as concert hosts. The venue openen in SAeptember this year, and it must be well done management and very nice place to work, because wherever I went, and I walk all over the place for more than an hour looking for frends, they were all nice. They asken me how I was, they smiled, they were genuinly intersted in talking to me, which is in fact something special with americans, they care, more so that my own countrymen and women.

Sure London-2 was best for me. Lady Jane may be. Mick Taylor worked better that night. May be. We got rid of Jeff Beck, who was a pain for me, we got Eric Clapton, who was so nice and great, we got Florence on GS, whom I liked so much I can ot say it, hope they fly her in for the Newark shows, and so on and so on. But are all these "likes" of mine interesting really? May be, may be not. I do know that others have other preferences. Some keep their eyers on Keith from show start to show finish. Others on Mick, or Ron, some probably on Lisa, and others on Charlie, Chuck or Bernard. Or may be Bobby, Tim or Darryl. How do I know? Some like the mother, others the daughter or even the son.

Talking about Darryl. His Miss You solo must have been the best one of them all last night. He impressed me. I though, this could never bee Bill doing it. He impressed the crowd. They liked it. Ronnie and Keith stood their impressed and listened, they stared at Darryl with smiles as he was doing the final exam, and did it in a brilliant way.

Mick was outstanding on Midnight Rambler. If I can do that at age 69 well then I might live until I get 100. The whole Rambler was just beautiful to me. I think that was when I noticed that everyone around me just smiled and smiled. I had moved to the very front and were surrounded by smiles.

Sure they had glitches and mess up at times. Mich said tey would do a blues but Ronnie said no-no-no, while Clark Jr surely could be there in the dark behind Ronnie, waiting for them to begind and get his spotlight turned on for "Going Down". But for some reason Ronnie thought Mick mesed up the set list, he did that a few times with or without purpose, but does it matter. No. That'æs what makes the Stones human. Otherwise they would be too perfect. If you want perfect music then buy a record.

Keith did something unusual. He was less shy and less nervous than usually when he hit the stage. After B4 he said ... eh.... "Happy Holidays to you all... I though it is still 2 1/2 weeks until Christmas, and I will see them two times more before that, but then he said... this one is called "Happy" so I realized he got a point.

Before the show I got to talk to one of the many friendly ushers i.e. the people in charge of crowd security from the venue. Then during the show he came over and he was shaking with emotions, just like he wanted to say we had a great time together. That was the whole feeling of all the people in the venue. The most friendly show I have been to, may be, and I have been to many hundred with the Stones.

So that is why this one might be the best one, friendly wise, while the London-2 show might have been the musically superior, and the Trabendo the emotionally superior, and the rehearsals visit with the 31 other friends and fans my eternal memory as a fan.

Always great to read bv's reviews.......... as I was at the gig....wham bam thank you man

__________________________

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:59

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bleedingman
I was very close to Keith and, to me, he looked like he was in pain a good deal of the time. He moved very stiffly and his eyes often lacked focus, not to mention fire. Ronnie often stood close to him, as if trying to get his attention and "wake him up". A few times e.g. before "Sympathy" when they were off stage, behind the drums, Keith was stooped over a table, holding and steadying himself, looking like an 80 year-old man. Then he would take a deep breath and find his way back out to the stage. His solo in "Sympathy", to my ears, was a noodle-laced, uninspired drivel of notes.

Interesting to see/hear him screw up a very, very basic lick like the "Last Time" intro, made even more so by the fact that it was Brian who played this, back in the day.

I love Keith but, based on my observations, I can't see him doing this for very much longer.

I think the late start made it difficult for the band to gain initial momentum. After the first few songs, people applauded but it died down quickly. Mick was in fine form, especially considering his age, the consumate entertainer. Having said that, I felt awkward when he would come over, encouraging us to clap in every song. Sometimes I just want to listen or watch and clapping is just not my thing. He seems to watch the audience very carefully and I felt obligated to oblige him with clapping, but my heart wasn't in it.

The acoustics from where I sat were awful, it was hard to distinguish individual bass notes, even when Darryl did the solo in miss you. The bass seemed to wash over the guitars and it was a big mush of sound for the most part.

!!! did you get free tickets?

because there's nothing like dropping a thou to make you see and hear great
things. one of the under-discussed reasons why these shows are getting good
reviews.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: December 9, 2012 17:59

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bv
And I have a confession to make... At the end of the show I thought... This is the time to call it quits.

Now there's something finally we can all agree on.

BV is coming over to the dark side? I sense a disturbance in the force.

My first thought on this is maybe he realizes that after all the rehearsals, two London shows and the long awaited arrival on the US shores in NY and the Stones roll out nothing but the same show with NO changes that it is getting stale and expensive even for him.

Of all the Stones greatness they have failed to appeal to their loyal base for the last 30 years. Most every band around them has led the way with innovations such as entire album productions, expanded setlists, exploring new territory. Instead they continue to latch on to the same warhorse run, short setlists, and dragging out guests to appeal to younger listeners. They did nothing special for that show last night. It appears as though they went through the motions. Only this time they charged people a fortune to witness it.

well, that's change in and of itself, no? quit yer bellyaching, son....

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: bleedingman ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:04

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superrevvy

!!! did you get free tickets?

because there's nothing like dropping a thou to make you see and hear great
things. one of the under-discussed reasons why these shows are getting good
reviews.

Nope, I paid for mine. In the hour wait before the show, endured many conversations which consisted of "How much did you pay?" "How much did those people - The Pit - pay?" Ad nauseum. The most boring "fans" I've ever sat near.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:08

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StonesTod
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The Sicilian
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bv
And I have a confession to make... At the end of the show I thought... This is the time to call it quits.

Now there's something finally we can all agree on.

BV is coming over to the dark side? I sense a disturbance in the force.

My first thought on this is maybe he realizes that after all the rehearsals, two London shows and the long awaited arrival on the US shores in NY and the Stones roll out nothing but the same show with NO changes that it is getting stale and expensive even for him.

Of all the Stones greatness they have failed to appeal to their loyal base for the last 30 years. Most every band around them has led the way with innovations such as entire album productions, expanded setlists, exploring new territory. Instead they continue to latch on to the same warhorse run, short setlists, and dragging out guests to appeal to younger listeners. They did nothing special for that show last night. It appears as though they went through the motions. Only this time they charged people a fortune to witness it.

well, that's change in and of itself, no? quit yer bellyaching, son....

I think all that habanero cheddar is causing it.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:10

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NedKelly
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The Sicilian
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superrevvy
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bv
And I have a confession to make... At the end of the show I thought... This is the time to call it quits.

Now there's something finally we can all agree on.

BV is coming over to the dark side? I sense a disturbance in the force.

My first thought on this is maybe he realizes that after all the rehearsals, two London shows and the long awaited arrival on the US shores in NY and the Stones roll out nothing but the same show with NO changes that it is getting stale and expensive even for him.

Of all the Stones greatness they have failed to appeal to their loyal base for the last 30 years. Most every band around them has led the way with innovations such as entire album productions, expanded setlists, exploring new territory. Instead they continue to latch on to the same warhorse run, short setlists, and dragging out guests to appeal to younger listeners. They did nothing special for that show last night. It appears as though they went through the motions. Only this time they charged people a fortune to witness it.

Did you see the show?

No I read the book.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:11

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The Sicilian
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StonesTod
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bv
And I have a confession to make... At the end of the show I thought... This is the time to call it quits.

Now there's something finally we can all agree on.

BV is coming over to the dark side? I sense a disturbance in the force.

My first thought on this is maybe he realizes that after all the rehearsals, two London shows and the long awaited arrival on the US shores in NY and the Stones roll out nothing but the same show with NO changes that it is getting stale and expensive even for him.

Of all the Stones greatness they have failed to appeal to their loyal base for the last 30 years. Most every band around them has led the way with innovations such as entire album productions, expanded setlists, exploring new territory. Instead they continue to latch on to the same warhorse run, short setlists, and dragging out guests to appeal to younger listeners. They did nothing special for that show last night. It appears as though they went through the motions. Only this time they charged people a fortune to witness it.

well, that's change in and of itself, no? quit yer bellyaching, son....

I think all that habanero cheddar is causing it.

well then he shouldn't habanudder habanero...or something...

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Date: December 9, 2012 18:20

So now what will the Stones do in NY for 4 long days, jam a local bar?

Or just stay hidden in their hotel rooms???

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: NedKelly ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:20

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The Sicilian
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NedKelly
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The Sicilian
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bv
And I have a confession to make... At the end of the show I thought... This is the time to call it quits.

Now there's something finally we can all agree on.

BV is coming over to the dark side? I sense a disturbance in the force.

My first thought on this is maybe he realizes that after all the rehearsals, two London shows and the long awaited arrival on the US shores in NY and the Stones roll out nothing but the same show with NO changes that it is getting stale and expensive even for him.

Of all the Stones greatness they have failed to appeal to their loyal base for the last 30 years. Most every band around them has led the way with innovations such as entire album productions, expanded setlists, exploring new territory. Instead they continue to latch on to the same warhorse run, short setlists, and dragging out guests to appeal to younger listeners. They did nothing special for that show last night. It appears as though they went through the motions. Only this time they charged people a fortune to witness it.

Did you see the show?

No I read the book.

Ah, that explains it...... Keep on reading then.....

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:26

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!!! did you get free tickets?

because there's nothing like dropping a thou to make you see and hear great
things. one of the under-discussed reasons why these shows are getting good
reviews.

Nope, I paid for mine. In the hour wait before the show, endured many conversations which consisted of "How much did you pay?" "How much did those people - The Pit - pay?" Ad nauseum. The most boring "fans" I've ever sat near.

obviously i don't question individually those who thought it was great.
but neither do i think they should question those of us who have looked at all
the videos and not been positively overwhelmed. of course it doesnt mean that
you're right or that i'm right but it is frankly nice to hear from someone who's
in-person perceptions are generally in line with what others of us think we
are seeing on youtube. thanks for your report.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:31

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steel driving hammer
So now what will the Stones do in NY for 4 long days, jam a local bar?

Or just stay hidden in their hotel rooms???

I think they have better accommodations then just hotel rooms in NY

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:36

There are two kinds of people here, realists who know what it is they are watching and hearing, and,

fanatics, who fall in love with the first girl that kisses them.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:43

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The Sicilian
There are two kinds of people here, realists who know what it is they are watching and hearing, and,

fanatics, who fall in love with the first girl that kisses them.

I count 3 kinds.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:49

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steel driving hammer
So now what will the Stones do in NY for 4 long days, jam a local bar?

Or just stay hidden in their hotel rooms???

Naw, they are setting up a studio in Keith's basement in his house in CT so they can take advantage of their musical tightness and produce a few new songs!

I am shocked and in bliss that they were able to pull off some great rock and roll last night. My ears are still ringing, those guitars were loud but the tone was great.

Keith in particular really pulled his weight last night and I am in awe of his abilities at his age. Just fantastic.

I was going to complain about MT not being there but after hearing MR without him executed so well, nothing to complain about. Mick's singing was much much better that I expected, that guy is a true pro.

More later after several pots of coffee and a blood transfusion. peace

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:51

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Naturalust
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steel driving hammer
So now what will the Stones do in NY for 4 long days, jam a local bar?

Or just stay hidden in their hotel rooms???

Naw, they are setting up a studio in Keith's basement in his house in CT so they can take advantage of their musical tightness and produce a few new songs!

I am shocked and in bliss that they were able to pull off some great rock and roll last night. My ears are still ringing, those guitars were loud but the tone was great.

Keith in particular really pulled his weight last night and I am in awe of his abilities at his age. Just fantastic.

I was going to complain about MT not being there but after hearing MR without him executed so well, nothing to complain about. Mick's singing was much much better that I expected, that guy is a true pro.

More later after several pots of coffee and a blood transfusion. peace

I'm super glad you were there Tod? Can I live it through you for a bit?

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: December 9, 2012 18:55

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steel driving hammer
So now what will the Stones do in NY for 4 long days, jam a local bar?

Or just stay hidden in their hotel rooms???

Naw, they are setting up a studio in Keith's basement in his house in CT so they can take advantage of their musical tightness and produce a few new songs!

I am shocked and in bliss that they were able to pull off some great rock and roll last night. My ears are still ringing, those guitars were loud but the tone was great.

Keith in particular really pulled his weight last night and I am in awe of his abilities at his age. Just fantastic.

I was going to complain about MT not being there but after hearing MR without him executed so well, nothing to complain about. Mick's singing was much much better that I expected, that guy is a true pro.

More later after several pots of coffee and a blood transfusion. peace

I'm super glad you were there Tod? Can I live it through you for a bit?

Gregg you would have loved it. Keith's guitar was audible and ripping all night. It just got better and better as the night went on. I will report some more highlights after I shake the wake. peace

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: December 9, 2012 19:15

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12. It's Only Rock'n Roll
13. Honky Tonk Women
--- Band presentations
14. Before They Make Me Run (Keith)
15. Happy (Keith)
16. Midnight Rambler
17. Start Me Up
18. Tumbling Dice
19. Brown Sugar
20. Sympathy For The Devil
--- Band off stage
21. You Can't Always Get What You Want
22. Jumping Jack Flash
23. Satisfaction
Ladies and gentlemen...What you see is what you get.

They should rework that part of the setlist other wise... zzzzzzzzzzzz!

Did you see the show and hear the songs? If not, do your zzzzzzzzing, because they were fantastic!

You want this hard to believe you spent a grand on this show, not "you lost a grand on this show"? smoking smiley

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: Honestman ()
Date: December 9, 2012 19:18

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Bv wrote: "So I hope they do a few more shows, not many. Not for those who want a show for ten dollars"

"A few"? Necessarilly? Why? I think they could offer us a tour (not a mammoth one, necessarilly), with longer breaks between the gigs, in comparison with the previous tours. Arenas and some stadiums, why not? But as for the ticket prices, with respect, there is a huge difference between the unrealistic 10 dollars level and the - prohibitive for SO MANY people- 600 or 800 dollars (or euros). My only serious complain is about these prices...

Of course, as we see, the most legendary live act in the world can fill 20.000 capacity arenas, even by extremelly high ticket prices, atleast in some cities like London and NY. But the point is not what they can do. The point is what they should do. Among other factots, reducing prices does mean attracting more young people in the gigs. And i think the Stones deserve to have, among the audiences, a notable number of young people on their farewell gigs. Just my opinion.

+1 thumbs up

HMN

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: December 9, 2012 19:21

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Naturalust
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steel driving hammer
So now what will the Stones do in NY for 4 long days, jam a local bar?

Or just stay hidden in their hotel rooms???

Naw, they are setting up a studio in Keith's basement in his house in CT so they can take advantage of their musical tightness and produce a few new songs!

I am shocked and in bliss that they were able to pull off some great rock and roll last night. My ears are still ringing, those guitars were loud but the tone was great.

Keith in particular really pulled his weight last night and I am in awe of his abilities at his age. Just fantastic.

I was going to complain about MT not being there but after hearing MR without him executed so well, nothing to complain about. Mick's singing was much much better that I expected, that guy is a true pro.

More later after several pots of coffee and a blood transfusion. peace

I'm super glad you were there Tod? Can I live it through you for a bit?

Gregg you would have loved it. Keith's guitar was audible and ripping all night. It just got better and better as the night went on. I will report some more highlights after I shake the wake. peace


Fantastic. I knew my main man wasn't gone. Through the past darkly indeed.
I'm loving Keith's spectacular reviews...

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: JonoLov ()
Date: December 9, 2012 19:45

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bleedingman
I was very close to Keith and, to me, he looked like he was in pain a good deal of the time. He moved very stiffly and his eyes often lacked focus, not to mention fire. Ronnie often stood close to him, as if trying to get his attention and "wake him up". A few times e.g. before "Sympathy" when they were off stage, behind the drums, Keith was stooped over a table, holding and steadying himself, looking like an 80 year-old man. Then he would take a deep breath and find his way back out to the stage. His solo in "Sympathy", to my ears, was a noodle-laced, uninspired drivel of notes.

Interesting to see/hear him screw up a very, very basic lick like the "Last Time" intro, made even more so by the fact that it was Brian who played this, back in the day.

I love Keith but, based on my observations, I can't see him doing this for very much longer.

I think the late start made it difficult for the band to gain initial momentum. After the first few songs, people applauded but it died down quickly. Mick was in fine form, especially considering his age, the consumate entertainer. Having said that, I felt awkward when he would come over, encouraging us to clap in every song. Sometimes I just want to listen or watch and clapping is just not my thing. He seems to watch the audience very carefully and I felt obligated to oblige him with clapping, but my heart wasn't in it.

The acoustics from where I sat were awful, it was hard to distinguish individual bass notes, even when Darryl did the solo in miss you. The bass seemed to wash over the guitars and it was a big mush of sound for the most part.

As bv stated, the staff at Barclay's couldn't have been friendlier, which made for a relaxing and pleasant vibe. No complaints there.

Glad I went but unless they play a much smaller venue, this will be my last Stones show, and that makes me sad.

I was at last night's show very close to Keith. I thought the show was great and loved it. Highlights for me, in order were, Midnight rambler, Satisfaction, and I'm going down (also loved the HTW anime, but was saddened to see it abbreviated compared to the first London show). The few low points i gladly accept in exchange for the high points (i.e. the high points were higher than the low points were low). However, one strong impression i got from my vantage point was that while Keith, on balance, performed well, he physically looks like it was truly punishing for him. I also sensed him emoting real sadness.......i think he himself knows/realizes he cannot do it much longer. If they do tour next year, they are going to have to be very careful about not overtaxing keith....in a longer tour, i would really be afraid of an unprecedentedly high show cancellation rate (in the bigger bang tour, of the six times i bought tickets, three times i had to have my money refunded to me - which still ends up costing a pretty penny because not all ticket master fees are refunded and travel costs are unrecoverable). I have seen lots of speculation here about why are the tickets so expensive. Without getting into market theories, i am sure that the cost of insuring the shows against Keith being unable to perform must be one of the most expensive insurance policies ever written in the entertainment industry. If it is not, i have to think that the actuarial-equivalent at the relevant insurance company is catastrophically underestimating the risk his/her company is underwriting. In a short tour, the situation may be manageable, but i think the big campaign-style tours are already in the dust bin of history. It saddens me to write this, and i would love to be wrong, but am afraid it is true.

Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: December 9, 2012 19:49

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Re: Show number 3: Brooklyn NYC Dec. 8 updates
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: December 9, 2012 20:16

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I was very close to Keith and, to me, he looked like he was in pain a good deal of the time. He moved very stiffly and his eyes often lacked focus, not to mention fire. Ronnie often stood close to him, as if trying to get his attention and "wake him up". A few times e.g. before "Sympathy" when they were off stage, behind the drums, Keith was stooped over a table, holding and steadying himself, looking like an 80 year-old man. Then he would take a deep breath and find his way back out to the stage. His solo in "Sympathy", to my ears, was a noodle-laced, uninspired drivel of notes.

Interesting to see/hear him screw up a very, very basic lick like the "Last Time" intro, made even more so by the fact that it was Brian who played this, back in the day.

I love Keith but, based on my observations, I can't see him doing this for very much longer.

I think the late start made it difficult for the band to gain initial momentum. After the first few songs, people applauded but it died down quickly. Mick was in fine form, especially considering his age, the consumate entertainer. Having said that, I felt awkward when he would come over, encouraging us to clap in every song. Sometimes I just want to listen or watch and clapping is just not my thing. He seems to watch the audience very carefully and I felt obligated to oblige him with clapping, but my heart wasn't in it.

The acoustics from where I sat were awful, it was hard to distinguish individual bass notes, even when Darryl did the solo in miss you. The bass seemed to wash over the guitars and it was a big mush of sound for the most part.

!!! did you get free tickets?

because there's nothing like dropping a thou to make you see and hear great
things. one of the under-discussed reasons why these shows are getting good
reviews.
John Lennon should have been there to help Keith, maybe to sing a bit - "Give peace a chance" or "Happy X-mas", blah, blah, blah.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-12-09 20:25 by mtaylor.

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