Am really enjoying it, must have had it on ten or 12 times since yesterday, and love the riff - that strutting, danceable riff is sounding better each time I hear it

I am hearing the 'Radio Edit' I presume (the Lyric Video on YouTube) - I haven't downloaded from itunes; is the itunes version much different?? Some here are saying you can hear Charlie much clearer, and the guitars are a little louder?

Itunes version better than Radio Edit?

Mick Jagger trying to sound to The Stones. This is a painfull song that could be cut by any average hard rock band. Stones are a memory. Richards is no longer able to add is touch and Jagger can only use some formula that has nothing to do with what made The Stones the best ones. They are still the best for me but sadly they cant give any value today.

On first listen, and reading of the lyrics, it's not bad. Doesn't really sound very Stonesy, without sounding particularly daring or experimental. Nothing really strong about it. It could be anybody drumming, and they might as well use a bass machine that just plucks along unemotionally with the song. I could be fooled and it might grow on me. It does sound like a Mick solo cut, but it doesn't sound like he used the Stones to back him up. The lyrics are quite topical. I don't know. There wasn't much magic. Ten times better than 'Don't Stop', but that ain't saying much. Stangely I feel relieved that it wasn't as bad as it could have been, without feeling the elation of finally having a great new Stones cut.

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Mick Jagger trying to sound to The Stones. This is a painfull song that could be cut by any average hard rock band. Stones are a memory. Richards is no longer able to add is touch and Jagger can only use some formula that has nothing to do with what made The Stones the best ones. They are still the best for me but sadly they cant give any value today.

I guess they should try to sound like Oingo Boingo- that would make a lot more sense.

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Am really enjoying it, must have had it on ten or 12 times since yesterday, and love the riff - that strutting, danceable riff is sounding better each time I hear it

I am hearing the 'Radio Edit' I presume (the Lyric Video on YouTube) - I haven't downloaded from itunes; is the itunes version much different?? Some here are saying you can hear Charlie much clearer, and the guitars are a little louder?

Itunes version better than Radio Edit?

Yes. Swings and roundabouts to be honest. There's some parts of one mix which are better than the other on each version, but overall I prefer the i tunes 'Grrr! version.

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OK, I listened to it some more and I like it better. Still sounds more like a solo Jagger track than a Stones song to me though.

There are dozens of very good Stones songs which dont sound like 'Stones songs' or where the collaboration between Jagger and Richards is minimal or even non existent. or where Charlie isnt that prominent.

The only thing that matters is whether it's an enjoyable song or not. And it is. The end always justifies the means.

I really dont see why people get wound up and over-analytical about the dynamics over who is too prominent and who isnt heard loudly enough. The fact is that for decades Mick and Keith have not been a songwriting unit in the true sense of the word. In this day and age and with technology being what it is, its quite obvious that when a band sets aside just four days or so to record two songs that whoever wrote the song is going to have already done a sizeable amount of work on it in their home studio and that full band involvement is going to be comparatively minimal. I'd expect 'One More Shot' to be the same, only that it would have more of Keith as he wrote it.

The days of Andrew Oldham locking them in a room and making them bash out a song together are long gone.

I've heard it a few more times. It's not the worst Stones song out there. It's no Streets of Love, Keys to Your Love, Back to Zero or Sweet Neocon. I'd put it up there with... mmmmm.... maybe... Driving Too Fast. Doesn't grate on my being, but still nothing is memorable at all (execpt the one "note" that Mick is shouting).

I think my initial hate-fest of the song came out of watching the video, since it puts forth the worst part of the song - the sheer banality of the lyrics - to the forefront.

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OK, I listened to it some more and I like it better. Still sounds more like a solo Jagger track than a Stones song to me though.

Welcome...now, just take this dixie cup, sit down, take a sip and lie back.

I didn't say I was ready to dring the Kool Aid, treacle. But if you catch me saying this is the greatest thing sice "Start Me Up" you'll know all is lost.

You'd actually have to say 'this is the greatest thing since Exile' for you to be completely lost, technically.

I'll go out on a limb and say it's the greatest thing since the last middling, formulaic Stones release.

Best song since Streets Of Love it is then.

This new song is no Streets Of Love (a classic imo) but it is good.

Gazza I completely disagree with your Machiavellian remark
and the end you end with that it is an enjoyable song is of course respectable opinion
it is not to me, though i agree that it is 10 times better Dont stop and have some good if not digged potential, and has funny lyrics

Anyway "ZZ Top" meets "late boom-boom-boom stadium-ola U2" is not the joy I look for in a Stones song

but, right, there's so much no "stonesy" music in their catalog...

As someone else has said, Doom & Gloom family tree roots back in stuff like Hold on to your hat, Fight, Oh no not you again and of course mick's solo work rockers..
That is its genetics, respectable but its limits are, imo, patent

Means give shape to the end, so, as your summary of mick and keith creative method for the band explains, beauty can still happen but it is not very likely nor has been attained very often

look forward to the next new song )

It doesn't sound remotely like a Jagger solo track. It sounds like the bonus songs on the DVD of the Special Edition of A BIGGER BANG. Songs I like, but I like Doom and Gloom even more.

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I really dont see why people get wound up and over-analytical about the dynamics over who is too prominent and who isnt heard loudly enough.

Well, I guess everybody needs a hobby

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I've been listening to this a lot, driving around London this w/e.

And I am enjoying it more and more.

It's no masterpiece of course but it's a slab of pure, thoroughly enjoyable RnR.

Kind of reminds me of echoes of 50s/early 60s RnR, and ONNYA/Driving Too Fast from ABB.

But also with a huge slug of the great attitude from some of the bonus tracks on the Some Girls release (Love You Too Much and Tallahassie Lassie).

Not bad for 70 year-olds.

It's going to get a deal more heavy rotation in my house!

I could definitely see them start shows with Doom and Gloom. Lots of room for expansion when played live.

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I could definitely see them start shows with Doom and Gloom. Lots of room for expansion when played live.

That would be great.

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I could definitely see them start shows with Doom and Gloom. Lots of room for expansion when played live.

That would be great.

Doom and Gloom then
Rough Justice then
One More Shot.... then
Jumping Jack Flash then...... ah I wont do the set list game...
but starting with the new songs would certainly show confidence
in the new songs.... and it would ROCK!!! (asssuming OMS is a rocker)

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Gazza I completely disagree with your Machiavellian remark
and the end you end with that it is an enjoyable song is of course respectable opinion
it is not to me, though i agree that it is 10 times better Dont stop and have some good if not digged potential, and has funny lyrics

Anyway "ZZ Top" meets "late boom-boom-boom stadium-ola U2" is not the joy I look for in a Stones song

but, right, there's so much no "stonesy" music in their catalog...

As someone else has said, Doom & Gloom family tree roots back in stuff like Hold on to your hat, Fight, Oh no not you again and of course mick's solo work rockers..
That is its genetics, respectable but its limits are, imo, patent

Means give shape to the end, so, as your summary of mick and keith creative method for the band explains, beauty can still happen but it is not very likely nor has been attained very often

look forward to the next new song )

There wasn't much collaboration on 'Some Girls' for example. That turned out pretty good. Likewise with stuff like 'Brown Sugar'.

There was a lot of collaboration on 'Satanic Majesties'. That didnt turn out too good at all. 'Steel Wheels' too.

If they figured that writing together would almost unfailingly result in better songs, I'd imagine that they'd have chosen that option more often than they have done down the years.

The important thing is whether the song is good or not. I think it is. You think it isnt, which is a valid enough opinion. I just dont think that making it a more collaborative effort necessarily means its going to be significantly improved.

The notion that any of us - and obviously I include myself in this - know better than what makes or defines a 'Stonesy song' or 'Stonesy sound' better than Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Charlie do is pretty absurd IMO.



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This new song is no Streets Of Love (a classic imo) but it is good.

This post has been reported on grounds of appallingly poor taste.

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Gazza I completely disagree with your Machiavellian remark
and the end you end with that it is an enjoyable song is of course respectable opinion
it is not to me, though i agree that it is 10 times better Dont stop and have some good if not digged potential, and has funny lyrics

Anyway "ZZ Top" meets "late boom-boom-boom stadium-ola U2" is not the joy I look for in a Stones song

but, right, there's so much no "stonesy" music in their catalog...

As someone else has said, Doom & Gloom family tree roots back in stuff like Hold on to your hat, Fight, Oh no not you again and of course mick's solo work rockers..
That is its genetics, respectable but its limits are, imo, patent

Means give shape to the end, so, as your summary of mick and keith creative method for the band explains, beauty can still happen but it is not very likely nor has been attained very often

look forward to the next new song )

There wasn't much collaboration on 'Some Girls' for example. That turned out pretty good. Likewise with stuff like 'Brown Sugar'.

There was a lot of collaboration on 'Satanic Majesties'. That didnt turn out too good at all. 'Steel Wheels' too.

If they figured that writing together would almost unfailingly result in better songs, I'd imagine that they'd have chosen that option more often than they have done down the years.

The important thing is whether the song is good or not. I think it is. You think it isnt, which is a valid enough opinion. I just dont think that making it a more collaborative effort necessarily means its going to be significantly improved.

The notion that any of us - and obviously I include myself in this - know better than what makes or defines a 'Stonesy song' or 'Stonesy sound' better than Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Charlie do is pretty absurd IMO.

A lot of collaboration on Dirty Work as well (well, excepting Mick), even Chuck gets a songwriting credit on that one!

seems that others who initially disliked the song are liking it more upon repeated listenings. i'm not going down that rathole...somebody needs to stick up for what is right and sacred. NO MORE LISTENINGS!

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seems that others who initially disliked the song are liking it more upon repeated listenings. i'm not going down that rathole...somebody needs to stick up for what is right and sacred. NO MORE LISTENINGS!

So how many times have you not listened to it...that really is the question!

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seems that others who initially disliked the song are liking it more upon repeated listenings. i'm not going down that rathole...somebody needs to stick up for what is right and sacred. NO MORE LISTENINGS!

So how many times have you not listened to it...that really is the question!

lost track...but i just finished not listening again...

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seems that others who initially disliked the song are liking it more upon repeated listenings. i'm not going down that rathole...somebody needs to stick up for what is right and sacred. NO MORE LISTENINGS!

I liked it initially...initially it would be DAM

The more I drink the prettier she gets... or something like that.

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seems that others who initially disliked the song are liking it more upon repeated listenings. i'm not going down that rathole...somebody needs to stick up for what is right and sacred. NO MORE LISTENINGS!

So how many times have you not listened to it...that really is the question!

lost track...but i just finished not listening again...

You should consider taking a break and listen to it again.

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The more I drink the prettier she gets... or something like that.

mhm...but the piano has been drinking, not you or me...or something....

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The more I drink the prettier she gets... or something like that.

mhm...but the piano has been drinking, not you or me...or something....

I thought I felt pretty sober... but I wasnt sure.

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seems that others who initially disliked the song are liking it more upon repeated listenings. i'm not going down that rathole...somebody needs to stick up for what is right and sacred. NO MORE LISTENINGS!

So how many times have you not listened to it...that really is the question!

lost track...but i just finished not listening again...

You should consider taking a break and listen to it again.

not right nor sacred...pls concentrate on what's at stake here

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The more I drink the prettier she gets... or something like that.

mhm...but the piano has been drinking, not you or me...or something....

I thought I felt pretty sober... but I wasnt sure.

i'm sober and you look pretty enough

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The more I drink the prettier she gets... or something like that.

That seemed to happen quite a lot to me,always had somewhere important to be in the mornings,hence the hasty exit!!!!