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Erik_Snow
I am late. Anybody has a link to somewhere one could listen to the song ?

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vudicus
Ok, I know I'm going to get a fair amount of abuse for this but still....

First of all, it's a good song. Could've been amazing.

However I am not impressed at all with the pro-tools cut and paste type recording. All the guitars are cut and pasted. The drums are looped. Ugly.

Was Charlie not available that week?
Are we not able to record one complete take of a song these days?
I'm running out of reasons to tell myself these guys shouldn't hang it up.
I never wanted to be one of those people. These guys are my heroes.

Please don't try and convince me this recording technique is an artistic one.
It's really not.

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vudicus
Ok, I know I'm going to get a fair amount of abuse for this but still....

First of all, it's a good song. Could've been amazing.

However I am not impressed at all with the pro-tools cut and paste type recording. All the guitars are cut and pasted. The drums are looped. Ugly.

Was Charlie not available that week?
Are we not able to record one complete take of a song these days?
I'm running out of reasons to tell myself these guys shouldn't hang it up.
I never wanted to be one of those people. These guys are my heroes.

Please don't try and convince me this recording technique is an artistic one.
It's really not.

I like the track, it indeed is a raunchy ZZ Top kind of track. But indeed I don't think Charlie was available that week, nor where Keith and Ron....

Hey, I have been saying that for months....

Mathijs

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The 2 new songs are nothing to get excited about, because they are wasted on a compilation, and comps notoriously go out of print after a few years. Like Forty Licks. Can anyone name any other songs besides the 4 on Forty Licks that are unavailable due to having gone out of print? Add these 2 new GRRR! songs to the wasteland of obscurity, soon enough anyway. The only way to guarantee a permanent shelf life for songs is to put them on new original albums, which are forever available. The 2 new GRRR! songs are like McDonald's cheeseburgers--more anticipation than satiation. Maybe they'll taste great at first, then the bloated after-effects of all that greasy processed filler will set in, and you'll be back to real "food" again before you know it.

Nice try.

By your logic, all the songs on "A Bigger Bang" were solid gold and "something to get excited about" just because they were released on a studio album and not a compilation. If Mick and Keith wanted to do an album--they would have. But they aren't. They had 2 tunes ready to go and submitted it for the compilation. You don't sit and write a song and determine what kind of quality it should be based on if it will be on a compilation or a studio album.

No, I was merely pointing out that comps go out of print and these songs won't be available after GRRR! goes the way of Made In The Shade and Sucking In The Seventies, and you can be sure the Stones know this. By their inclusion on a short-lived compilation, the Stones are just throwing away 2 new songs. Your interpretation of my logic is faulty, because those are your words in your post, not mine. My point is, A Bigger Bang is still sitting there in the record store bin whether you think the songs are good or not, along with every other original Stones album (several throwaway songs in the back catalog, but they're still available), whereas Forty Licks and many other comps of its ilk are not. And these 2 new songs--just a gimmick to shift old product--will not prolong the shelf life of GRRR! Nice try yourself.

You were too busy trying to be a badass that you lost your point of view in your posts. Oooh a "fan" who doesn't care about new Stones music?---oh scared of you.

You were not just "merely pointing out that comps go out of print." Your post was going on about how the two new songs were nothing to get excited about and your justification for that was they were going to be on a compilation and not a real album. Who the hell cares if they're on a compilation? What's your point? "Everything Is Turning To Gold" wasn't available for a while on "Sucking IN the Seventies" but it is still available to purchase--was that a throwaway too?

You asked for other songs that were made available once but are now out of print and kowalski gave you the two off the special edition ABB: "Under The Radar" and "We Don't Wanna Go Home." (Last time I checked, "Under The Radar" was a song much celebrated on this board. But I guess they weren't really that great because they're on an out of print product?) Instead of admitting you were talking out of your ass, you sidestep your original point and go on about how fans were duped into buying the same product twice. What the ffuck does that have to do with your original question? Who cares if a song is still available in stores? What does that have to do with the song being good?

Your argument is shite and you were just looking for an excuse to run your mouth off. You are of course free to do so--but not without me calling your crap. "Doom and Gloom" is most likely not going to be a masterpeice---and to that I say, who really cares?

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vudicus
Ok, I know I'm going to get a fair amount of abuse for this but still....

First of all, it's a good song. Could've been amazing.

However I am not impressed at all with the pro-tools cut and paste type recording. All the guitars are cut and pasted. The drums are looped. Ugly.

Was Charlie not available that week?
Are we not able to record one complete take of a song these days?
I'm running out of reasons to tell myself these guys shouldn't hang it up.
I never wanted to be one of those people. These guys are my heroes.

Please don't try and convince me this recording technique is an artistic one.
It's really not.

I like the track, it indeed is a raunchy ZZ Top kind of track. But indeed I don't think Charlie was available that week, nor where Keith and Ron....

Hey, I have been saying that for months....

Mathijs

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Erik_Snow
I am late. Anybody has a link to somewhere one could listen to the song ?

I couldn't find one. They played it twice on the show, though. Very good song, imo!

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Justin
Well we have to remember that the track was produced by Jeff Bhaskar, a producer who's well versed in pop working with acts such as Kanye West, Bruno Mars, Brandy and Robin Thicke among many others. Everything about the production is very not Stonesy (aka modern). Charlie comes through here as clearly as he did with "Undercover Of The Night." No reason to believe it isn't him. Him being cut up and looped? Possibly true.

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OneHit
Any chance that was a radio edit and we'll get a different one on GRRR? Would explain the two producers theory.

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vudicus
Ok, I know I'm going to get a fair amount of abuse for this but still....

First of all, it's a good song. Could've been amazing.

However I am not impressed at all with the pro-tools cut and paste type recording. All the guitars are cut and pasted. The drums are looped. Ugly.

Was Charlie not available that week?
Are we not able to record one complete take of a song these days?
I'm running out of reasons to tell myself these guys shouldn't hang it up.
I never wanted to be one of those people. These guys are my heroes.

Please don't try and convince me this recording technique is an artistic one.
It's really not.

I like the track, it indeed is a raunchy ZZ Top kind of track. But indeed I don't think Charlie was available that week, nor where Keith and Ron....

Hey, I have been saying that for months....

Mathijs