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Killer groove on this. You can hear how the maracas add so much. When I first heard the drums isolated I was like "is that Jimmy Miller?!?" They sound so crisp. I've often thought they were the best drums sonically speaking on the album.
Also, listen at 10:01 and tell me that isn't Mick Taylor; maybe from a different track that's been mixed out. It even overlaps the other rhythm guitar a bit. Plus, it has a washy filtered sound, nothing like the dry rhythm guitar—which sounds like an overdub.
Very interesting points Mate!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-10-08 04:07 by MadMax.
It's why I love EOMS so much. This could easily be the best song on there...but then there's Rocks Off, and Shine A Light, All Down The Line, Sweet Virginia, Tumbling Dice.
So many and Loving Cup is definitely a highlight.
100%. I have probably listened to this album 300 times since getting it for my 12th birthday in 1972. I NEVER get tired of it.
Yeah, I think that's right. I'd throw out Abbey Road as a challenge (though personally I don't prefer it for sure), and maybe Sgt. Pepper.
Great find! There's actually more going on -underneath the acoustic there is an organ part I have not heard before. It's very simple, very basic, but it fill the track nicely. It's this organ that plays the part from 3:30 on that always sounded like a Caribbean pan drum to me.
That little lead run through the Leslie indeed sounds like Taylor to me.
Mathijs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-26 23:13 by Mathijs.
It doesn't sound like anything Taylor has ever played.
It sounds like a couple of dozen acoustic tracks played by Richards.
Mathijs
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-27 15:32 by Taylor1.
The acoustic on LC is as signature Keith as it can get. Just about every acoustic track he has played up until this day has the same signature sound of Keith.
And if I try to describe it: it's a light to medium, flexible pick strummed with quite a force close the the neck, emphasizing the D to high strings. It's a very percussive sound, with lots of presence and brilliance to it.
One of the best examples of this sound is the acoustic of 'You Don't Move Me'.
Mathijs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-27 16:54 by Taylor1.
In the bridge of LC there is a little guitar run through a Leslie that could very well be Taylor.
For Sweet Black Angel: the main guitar playing the main riff in the right speaker is Keith. There is a faint second acoustic somewhat left to the middle that comes to more prominence around 1:30 that shadows the chord changes of the main guitar. This could be Taylor, or even Jagger. At 2:05 a third acoustic enters playing the ending riff an octave higher. This is played by Keith. So its either an overdub, or the second acoustic was Keith all along.
Mathijs
You're correct, it is the pan drum at the end; it's evident in the track with brass. I think the piano track bleed into the guitar tracks and it's an artifact created by the separation.
But an absolutely gorgeous acoustic guitar by Richards. Probably my favorite perhaps.
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Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: July 10, 2022 18:52
such a great song!
Top 10? no.
Top 20? maybe.
Top 30? yes!
Top 10? no.
Top 20? maybe.
Top 30? yes!
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
MKjan
()
Date: July 15, 2023 22:25
This could be their greatest recording ever.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Bjorn
()
Date: July 15, 2023 22:30
Yes. A creation beyond...It´s not this, it´s not that, it´s not...but ALL that!
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
umakmehrd
()
Date: July 15, 2023 23:53
Agreed this song is magical
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Sighunt
()
Date: July 16, 2023 06:02
Definitely an under-played song that needed more of an airing. I thought this was a nice version of this song that popped up on my U Tube feed. Very good audio quality as well.
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Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
caschimann
()
Date: July 16, 2023 10:28
Sorry as this for sure hsd been discussed somewhere on the previous pages but:
Isn‘t Lovin Cup the centre song of Mick about diffuculties with sexual potence?
Isn‘t Lovin Cup the centre song of Mick about diffuculties with sexual potence?
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
()
Date: July 16, 2023 13:23
Mick Taylor smoking weed live on German TV. That must have been a shock.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
roryg
()
Date: July 16, 2023 14:06
We'll be seeing a Stones' tribute band called Loving Cup later today.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: October 8, 2024 00:11
Killer groove on this. You can hear how the maracas add so much. When I first heard the drums isolated I was like "is that Jimmy Miller?!?" They sound so crisp. I've often thought they were the best drums sonically speaking on the album.
Also, listen at 10:01 and tell me that isn't Mick Taylor; maybe from a different track that's been mixed out. It even overlaps the other rhythm guitar a bit. Plus, it has a washy filtered sound, nothing like the dry rhythm guitar—which sounds like an overdub.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
MadMax
()
Date: October 8, 2024 04:06
Quote
TravelinMan
Killer groove on this. You can hear how the maracas add so much. When I first heard the drums isolated I was like "is that Jimmy Miller?!?" They sound so crisp. I've often thought they were the best drums sonically speaking on the album.
Also, listen at 10:01 and tell me that isn't Mick Taylor; maybe from a different track that's been mixed out. It even overlaps the other rhythm guitar a bit. Plus, it has a washy filtered sound, nothing like the dry rhythm guitar—which sounds like an overdub.
Very interesting points Mate!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-10-08 04:07 by MadMax.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
steffialicia
()
Date: October 8, 2024 14:35
Quote
MKjan
This could be their greatest recording ever.[/quote.
I just love it. To me, it is the most romantic of Stones' lyrics and the music? Just gorgeous.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-10-08 14:36 by steffialicia.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
umakmehrd
()
Date: October 8, 2024 19:50
agreed right up there with their best... Its in my top 5 and I crank it all the time...
"Yes, I'm stumbling, and I know I play a bad guitar"
"Yes, I'm stumbling, and I know I play a bad guitar"
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: October 8, 2024 19:54
Quote
umakmehrd
agreed right up there with their best... Its in my top 5 and I crank it all the time...
"Yes, I'm stumbling, and I know I play a bad guitar"
It's why I love EOMS so much. This could easily be the best song on there...but then there's Rocks Off, and Shine A Light, All Down The Line, Sweet Virginia, Tumbling Dice.
So many and Loving Cup is definitely a highlight.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
umakmehrd
()
Date: October 8, 2024 21:32
Agreed.. if I could only listen to one album for the rest of my life it would be EOMS it has it all...
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
DelcoProud
()
Date: October 12, 2024 12:51
Quote
umakmehrd
Agreed.. if I could only listen to one album for the rest of my life it would be EOMS it has it all...
100%. I have probably listened to this album 300 times since getting it for my 12th birthday in 1972. I NEVER get tired of it.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: October 12, 2024 16:24
Name me another album by any artist that has10 great songs on it, like Rocks Off, Rip this Joint, Tumbling Dice, Loving Cup, Happy, Let it Loose, Shine a Light, All Down the Line, Soul Survivor, Ventilator Blues together with great musicianship.And if you compare the best Beatles albums to the big four, I can’t think of any that have more great songs per album than those 4 do.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: October 12, 2024 16:34
Quote
Taylor1
Name me another album by any artist that has10 great songs on it, like Rocks Off, Rip this Joint, Tumbling Dice, Loving Cup, Happy, Let it Loose, Shine a Light, All Down the Line, Soul Survivor, Ventilator Blues together with great musicianship.And if you compare the best Beatles albums to the big four, I can’t think of any that have more great songs per album than those 4 do.
Yeah, I think that's right. I'd throw out Abbey Road as a challenge (though personally I don't prefer it for sure), and maybe Sgt. Pepper.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: May 25, 2026 01:45
Here are the isolated guitars for "Loving Cup". Just an excellent acoustic guitar part.
Also, I was correct there is a different electric guitar through a Leslie speaker during the bridge. I wonder if this was Mick Taylor's original part and it was mixed out in favor of a more basic rhythm guitar?
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-25 01:47 by TravelinMan.
Also, I was correct there is a different electric guitar through a Leslie speaker during the bridge. I wonder if this was Mick Taylor's original part and it was mixed out in favor of a more basic rhythm guitar?
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-25 01:47 by TravelinMan.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
CindyC
()
Date: May 26, 2026 19:02
Last week I walked the Nietzsche trail in Eze and was pretending I was the man on the hillside in the sweet summer sun. What a view!
Also walked over to Nellcote and got to see the infamous gates.
This song was in my head the whole time. So beautiful
Also walked over to Nellcote and got to see the infamous gates.
This song was in my head the whole time. So beautiful
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: May 26, 2026 23:11
Quote
TravelinMan
Here are the isolated guitars for "Loving Cup". Just an excellent acoustic guitar part.
Also, I was correct there is a different electric guitar through a Leslie speaker during the bridge. I wonder if this was Mick Taylor's original part and it was mixed out in favor of a more basic rhythm guitar?
Great find! There's actually more going on -underneath the acoustic there is an organ part I have not heard before. It's very simple, very basic, but it fill the track nicely. It's this organ that plays the part from 3:30 on that always sounded like a Caribbean pan drum to me.
That little lead run through the Leslie indeed sounds like Taylor to me.
Mathijs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-26 23:13 by Mathijs.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: May 27, 2026 13:19
Is it Taylor on acoustic? Sounds like his playing on Sweet Black Angel
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: May 27, 2026 14:07
Quote
Taylor1
Is it Taylor on acoustic? Sounds like his playing on Sweet Black Angel
It doesn't sound like anything Taylor has ever played.
It sounds like a couple of dozen acoustic tracks played by Richards.
Mathijs
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: May 27, 2026 15:04
Name me a track it sounds like Keith.It sounds nothing like his acoustic playing on Beggar’s Banquet or Let it Bleed.So Taylor is not on the track at all?Nico’s The Complete works lists Taylor on guitarQuote
MathijsQuote
Taylor1
Is it Taylor on acoustic? Sounds like his playing on Sweet Black Angel
It doesn't sound like anything Taylor has ever played.
It sounds like a couple of dozen acoustic tracks played by Richards.
Mathijs
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-27 15:32 by Taylor1.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: May 27, 2026 16:43
Quote
Taylor1Name me a track it sounds like Keith.It sounds nothing like his acoustic playing on Beggar’s Banquet or Let it Bleed.So Taylor is not on the track at all?Nico’s The Complete works lists Taylor on guitarQuote
MathijsQuote
Taylor1
Is it Taylor on acoustic? Sounds like his playing on Sweet Black Angel
It doesn't sound like anything Taylor has ever played.
It sounds like a couple of dozen acoustic tracks played by Richards.
Mathijs
The acoustic on LC is as signature Keith as it can get. Just about every acoustic track he has played up until this day has the same signature sound of Keith.
And if I try to describe it: it's a light to medium, flexible pick strummed with quite a force close the the neck, emphasizing the D to high strings. It's a very percussive sound, with lots of presence and brilliance to it.
One of the best examples of this sound is the acoustic of 'You Don't Move Me'.
Mathijs
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: May 27, 2026 16:53
Your knowledge is very impressive to a layperson like me.But does Taylor play on Loving Cup? And which guitar does he play on Sweet Black Angel?Quote
MathijsQuote
Taylor1Name me a track it sounds like Keith.It sounds nothing like his acoustic playing on Beggar’s Banquet or Let it Bleed.So Taylor is not on the track at all?Nico’s The Complete works lists Taylor on guitarQuote
MathijsQuote
Taylor1
Is it Taylor on acoustic? Sounds like his playing on Sweet Black Angel
It doesn't sound like anything Taylor has ever played.
It sounds like a couple of dozen acoustic tracks played by Richards.
Mathijs
The acoustic on LC is as signature Keith as it can get. Just about every acoustic track he has played up until this day has the same signature sound of Keith.
And if I try to describe it: it's a light to medium, flexible pick strummed with quite a force close the the neck, emphasizing the D to high strings. It's a very percussive sound, with lots of presence and brilliance to it.
One of the best examples of this sound is the acoustic of 'You Don't Move Me'.
Mathijs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2026-05-27 16:54 by Taylor1.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: May 27, 2026 17:37
Quote
Taylor1Your knowledge is very impressive to a layperson like me.But does Taylor play on Loving Cup? And which guitar does he play on Sweet Black Angel?Quote
MathijsQuote
Taylor1Name me a track it sounds like Keith.It sounds nothing like his acoustic playing on Beggar’s Banquet or Let it Bleed.So Taylor is not on the track at all?Nico’s The Complete works lists Taylor on guitarQuote
MathijsQuote
Taylor1
Is it Taylor on acoustic? Sounds like his playing on Sweet Black Angel
It doesn't sound like anything Taylor has ever played.
It sounds like a couple of dozen acoustic tracks played by Richards.
Mathijs
The acoustic on LC is as signature Keith as it can get. Just about every acoustic track he has played up until this day has the same signature sound of Keith.
And if I try to describe it: it's a light to medium, flexible pick strummed with quite a force close the the neck, emphasizing the D to high strings. It's a very percussive sound, with lots of presence and brilliance to it.
One of the best examples of this sound is the acoustic of 'You Don't Move Me'.
Mathijs
In the bridge of LC there is a little guitar run through a Leslie that could very well be Taylor.
For Sweet Black Angel: the main guitar playing the main riff in the right speaker is Keith. There is a faint second acoustic somewhat left to the middle that comes to more prominence around 1:30 that shadows the chord changes of the main guitar. This could be Taylor, or even Jagger. At 2:05 a third acoustic enters playing the ending riff an octave higher. This is played by Keith. So its either an overdub, or the second acoustic was Keith all along.
Mathijs
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: May 27, 2026 19:25
Quote
MathijsQuote
TravelinMan
Here are the isolated guitars for "Loving Cup". Just an excellent acoustic guitar part.
Also, I was correct there is a different electric guitar through a Leslie speaker during the bridge. I wonder if this was Mick Taylor's original part and it was mixed out in favor of a more basic rhythm guitar?
Great find! There's actually more going on -underneath the acoustic there is an organ part I have not heard before. It's very simple, very basic, but it fill the track nicely. It's this organ that plays the part from 3:30 on that always sounded like a Caribbean pan drum to me.
That little lead run through the Leslie indeed sounds like Taylor to me.
Mathijs
You're correct, it is the pan drum at the end; it's evident in the track with brass. I think the piano track bleed into the guitar tracks and it's an artifact created by the separation.
But an absolutely gorgeous acoustic guitar by Richards. Probably my favorite perhaps.
Re: Track Talk: Loving Cup
Posted by:
mosthigh
()
Date: June 3, 2026 01:36
Article about playing Loving Cup live.
Seems like Mick wasn't too keen on it at first.
[faroutmagazine.co.uk]
Seems like Mick wasn't too keen on it at first.
[faroutmagazine.co.uk]
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