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Also, you should listen to Bare Wires, the album that got Taylor the gig in the first place. He’s all over that record playing rhythm, lead, slide, even wah wah (much like Potted Shrimp which makes me think it is him and not Stills).
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Let it Bleed as an album is half great and half crap, including the raw 1969 Loving Cup would most definitely have improved it.
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Also, you should listen to Bare Wires, the album that got Taylor the gig in the first place. He’s all over that record playing rhythm, lead, slide, even wah wah (much like Potted Shrimp which makes me think it is him and not Stills).
Just to make sure, we are talking about Loving Cup, right?
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Also, you should listen to Bare Wires, the album that got Taylor the gig in the first place. He’s all over that record playing rhythm, lead, slide, even wah wah (much like Potted Shrimp which makes me think it is him and not Stills).
Just to make sure, we are talking about Loving Cup, right?
Yep, check out the shows in Vancouver, Seattle, and San Francisco when they played "Loving Cup". In Vancouver you can only hear Taylor's electric guitar, but in Seattle you can hear Richards playing acoustic guitar and Taylor playing the EXACT electric guitar part on Exile On Main Street.
This goes to show that Taylor contributed to more songs than peeps on this site give him credit for. Also, it shows he can play reserved in the studio, who knows maybe Keef reeled him in a bit.
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Bare Wires is a masterpiece and I listen to it all the time. Regarding Taylor he played on 3 great records in a row with Mayall, Crusade, Bare Wires and Blues from Laurel Canyon and then played on LIB,SF,Exile,GHS,IORR and YA Ya's that's 9 great records by the time he was only 25 years of age he played on.
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Also, you should listen to Bare Wires, the album that got Taylor the gig in the first place. He’s all over that record playing rhythm, lead, slide, even wah wah (much like Potted Shrimp which makes me think it is him and not Stills).
Just to make sure, we are talking about Loving Cup, right?
Yep, check out the shows in Vancouver, Seattle, and San Francisco when they played "Loving Cup". In Vancouver you can only hear Taylor's electric guitar, but in Seattle you can hear Richards playing acoustic guitar and Taylor playing the EXACT electric guitar part on Exile On Main Street.
This goes to show that Taylor contributed to more songs than peeps on this site give him credit for. Also, it shows he can play reserved in the studio, who knows maybe Keef reeled him in a bit.
It doesn't show anything other than that he played a somewhat (not totally) similar part in concert.
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Date: August 21, 2019 21:10
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Bare Wires is a masterpiece and I listen to it all the time. Regarding Taylor he played on 3 great records in a row with Mayall, Crusade, Bare Wires and Blues from Laurel Canyon and then played on LIB,SF,Exile,GHS,IORR and YA Ya's that's 9 great records by the time he was only 25 years of age he played on.
All excellent stuff, but he didn't play on this track
Yes I know I was referring to Bare Wires the entire record - I hate when the record name is also a song on the album.
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Also, you should listen to Bare Wires, the album that got Taylor the gig in the first place. He’s all over that record playing rhythm, lead, slide, even wah wah (much like Potted Shrimp which makes me think it is him and not Stills).
Just to make sure, we are talking about Loving Cup, right?
Yep, check out the shows in Vancouver, Seattle, and San Francisco when they played "Loving Cup". In Vancouver you can only hear Taylor's electric guitar, but in Seattle you can hear Richards playing acoustic guitar and Taylor playing the EXACT electric guitar part on Exile On Main Street.
This goes to show that Taylor contributed to more songs than peeps on this site give him credit for. Also, it shows he can play reserved in the studio, who knows maybe Keef reeled him in a bit.
It doesn't show anything other than that he played a somewhat (not totally) similar part in concert.
Hahahahahahahahaha
These guys will do anything to diminish Taylor's contribution. It is literally the Exile version played live (Richards-acoustic, Taylor-electric), and Taylor plays EXACTLY what is on the record (sure he threw one extra lick in there), yet somehow he didn't record it in the studio? Why the hell would he learn Richards exact part to play live? When has that EVER happened?
Take your blinders off, man. You and Mathijs can be wrong, and are absolutely wrong in this case. I admit, I was wrong about who played what before like on Short And Curlies.
What it comes down to is Richards was so good at rhythm that people think Taylor couldn't have possibly played a rhythm guitar part, and also Taylor was so good at lead/slide that people think Richards could never have played a lead/slide part.
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Let it Bleed as an album is half great and half crap,
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The electric guitar doing the single string runs and the I - IV lick on the Exile version is 100% Keith, not a single hair of doubt. On the 1969 version Keith is doing the country bends, Taylor does the slashing chords and tremolo picking. Live in 1972 I don’t know, I need to listen. I wasn’t even aware there is an acoustic live.
Concerning Potted Shrimp: the wah guitar basically is note for note and soundwise a copy of Stills lead work on the Manassas songs The Love Gangster and The Treasure. And we know Stills was around for many jam sessions from 1969 until he fell out with Keith on the 1972 tour. Mathijs
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The electric guitar doing the single string runs and the I - IV lick on the Exile version is 100% Keith, not a single hair of doubt. On the 1969 version Keith is doing the country bends, Taylor does the slashing chords and tremolo picking. Live in 1972 I don’t know, I need to listen. I wasn’t even aware there is an acoustic live.
Concerning Potted Shrimp: the wah guitar basically is note for note and soundwise a copy of Stills lead work on the Manassas songs The Love Gangster and The Treasure. And we know Stills was around for many jam sessions from 1969 until he fell out with Keith on the 1972 tour.
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The electric guitar doing the single string runs and the I - IV lick on the Exile version is 100% Keith, not a single hair of doubt. On the 1969 version Keith is doing the country bends, Taylor does the slashing chords and tremolo picking. Live in 1972 I don’t know, I need to listen. I wasn’t even aware there is an acoustic live.
Concerning Potted Shrimp: the wah guitar basically is note for note and soundwise a copy of Stills lead work on the Manassas songs The Love Gangster and The Treasure. And we know Stills was around for many jam sessions from 1969 until he fell out with Keith on the 1972 tour. Mathijs
Do we know why Keith and Stills had a falling out in 1972? Was it over drugs?
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The electric guitar doing the single string runs and the I - IV lick on the Exile version is 100% Keith, not a single hair of doubt. On the 1969 version Keith is doing the country bends, Taylor does the slashing chords and tremolo picking. Live in 1972 I don’t know, I need to listen. I wasn’t even aware there is an acoustic live.
Concerning Potted Shrimp: the wah guitar basically is note for note and soundwise a copy of Stills lead work on the Manassas songs The Love Gangster and The Treasure. And we know Stills was around for many jam sessions from 1969 until he fell out with Keith on the 1972 tour. Mathijs
Do we know why Keith and Stills had a falling out in 1972? Was it over drugs?
Here's what Ronnie wrote in his book:
Every time I think about Stephen Stills, I can't forget that Keith couldn't stand him and there was nothing Stephen could do to change that.
We were sharing a studio once at Atlantic Records in New York, and Stephen wanted to play one of Keith's guitars.
But Keith said no and actually locked all his guitars away to keep Stephen from playing them.
Then Keith put a sign up on the door that read "No Stephen Stills Allowed".
I'm not sure Keith knows why he didn't like Stephen, but he used to say, "Stills doesn't know how to do drugs properly."
An odd reason, especially as I don't think any of us knew whether Stills did drugs at all!
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Well, it's a long way from these simple, sustainless lines to the only "ragged" Tailor-take I know of: Dance Little Sister
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Well, it's a long way from these simple, sustainless lines to the only "ragged" Tailor-take I know of: Dance Little Sister
You still need considerable technique to be able to play the lead of DLS though...
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