I was watching one of my favorite movies, High Fidelity, and saw this question referenced about Stevie Wonder. I thought, why not try and come up with a list for the Stones? This isn't meant to dig at the band, but lets face it, the 80's were not kind to most of the dinasour acts, the Stones not excluded. So here is my list:
5. Dancing in the Streets Jagger and Bowie-ok not Stones per se, but a Stones connection, and a bad one at that
4. Steel Wheels tour 1989-Start of the Vegas band. They've never looked back since.
3. Chris Kimsey Production-yes yes he produced Sticky Finger and Some Girls, but he also produced Emotional Rescue, Undercover, and Steel Wheels, all sounding very overproduced to my ears
2. Mick and Keith make Solo albums-unless your a diehard, these aren't great. The fued echoes John and Paul as each takes shots at each other
1. Dirty Work, no comment
What are your five?

1. The dirty work unreleased outttakes (stuff that should have been released)
2. Steel wheels outtakes (the very same)
3. Production in MJ's albums
4. Undercover bad mixes
5. Overproducing Steel Wheels with those synths shadowing the band

1. Keith, Ron and Charlie not being in shape enough to tour in '84 or behind Dirty Work.

2. Keith and Ron at Live Aid.

3. Inventing corporate tour sponsorship.

4. signing with Michael Cohl/Birth of the Vegas Era

5. Not writing an album that truly measures up to the previous two decades (cherry picking 2-3 good songs on their last six albums doesn't count, and Tattoo You is mostly 70's stuff). This crime also applies to the 90s, the 00s and the 10s.

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1. Keith, Ron and Charlie not being in shape enough to tour in '84 or behind Dirty Work.

2. Keith and Ron at Live Aid.

3. Inventing corporate tour sponsorship.

4. signing with Michael Cohl/Birth of the Vegas Era

5. Not writing an album that truly measures up to the previous two decades (cherry picking 2-3 good songs on their last six albums doesn't count, and Tattoo You is mostly 70's stuff). This crime also applies to the 90s, the 00s and the 10s.

Totally forgot about that trainwreck. Definitely a top 5'er.

"The dirty work unreleased outttakes"

Indeed that was the most interesting thing out of the whole DW sessions! The finished album sounds dead in comparison. The more they worked on it the more they took the life out of it...

Jagger's hair on SW tour

I would hazard that 3 songs on Dirty Work are good, i.e. One Hit, Harlem Shuffle, and Sleep Tonight.

I also think that some, not all of Steel Wheels, is good. Mixed Emotions, Continental Drift, Hearts for Sale, Break The Spell, and Slipping Away are all good tracks. Rock & Hard Place isn't too bad, but the 80s over-production can be a tad jarring, so blame Chris Kimsey.

Thirdly, Emotional Rescue has several good songs, i.e. Let Me Go, All About You, and the title track, so it ins't that bad.

Fourthly, Undercover, for my money, has only two good songs, the title track and Wanna Hold You; everything else is rather middling. The conclusion would be that Undercover, ergo, is their worst album on the basis of tracks.

Fifth: Keith and Ron sunk Dylan's career via the disastrous Live Aid appearance. It took a lot for Dylan to come back, taking three years, but at least it wasn't the nadir of Dylan & The Dead, or the children's choir on the wretched cover of Kris Kristofferson's They Killed Him.

1. Not releasing Undercover as a double album.
2. Not touring behind Undecover.
3. Mick on TOTP - Let's Work.
4. Not releasing Continental Drift as an extended single.
5. Not revamping the setlist (more) when they changed the tour name from Steel Wheels to Urban Jungle.(But keeping 2000 Light years.)



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"but the 80s over-production can be a tad jarring, so blame Chris Kimsey"

I'd say "but the 80s over-production can be a tad jarring, so blame Jagger".
Kimsey only did what he was told to do.

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Mick and Keith make Solo albums-unless your a diehard, these aren't great. The fued echoes John and Paul as each takes shots at each others.

Even though I consider myself "diehard", I think Talk is cheap is indeed a very good album in its own. Much better than Undercover, Dirty Work and Steel Wheels. Even my dad likes that one, who just listens to Toto and Steely Dan. All of Mick's solo outputs are dogshit however.

1. Jagger's entire solo output, except Wandering Spirit and half of She's the Boss.
2. Jagger's Down Under touring band
3. Richards' media appearances since the VL tour
4. Darryl Jones
5. Scorsese's Shine A Light movie

Mathijs

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Happy Jack
Mick and Keith make Solo albums-unless your a diehard, these aren't great. The fued echoes John and Paul as each takes shots at each others.

Even though I consider myself "diehard", I think Talk is cheap is indeed a very good album in its own. Much better than Undercover, Dirty Work and Steel Wheels. Even my dad likes that one, who just listens to Toto and Steely Dan. All of Mick's solo outputs are dogshit however.

Keith's albums are great. Mick's are not.

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1. Jagger's entire solo output, except Wandering Spirit and half of She's the Boss.
2. Jagger's Down Under touring band
3. Richards' media appearances since the VL tour
4. Darryl Jones
5. Scorsese's Shine A Light movie

Mathijs

In the 80s Mathijs, not since the 80s.

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I was watching one of my favorite movies, High Fidelity, and saw this question referenced about Stevie Wonder. I thought, why not try and come up with a list for the Stones? This isn't meant to dig at the band, but lets face it, the 80's were not kind to most of the dinasour acts, the Stones not excluded. So here is my list:
5. Dancing in the Streets Jagger and Bowie-ok not Stones per se, but a Stones connection, and a bad one at that
4. Steel Wheels tour 1989-Start of the Vegas band. They've never looked back since.
3. Chris Kimsey Production-yes yes he produced Sticky Finger and Some Girls, but he also produced Emotional Rescue, Undercover, and Steel Wheels, all sounding very overproduced to my ears
2. Mick and Keith make Solo albums-unless your a diehard, these aren't great. The fued echoes John and Paul as each takes shots at each other
1. Dirty Work, no comment
What are your five?

Steel Wheels was amazing. Chris Kimsey is great. Talk Is Cheap is classic. Dirty Work is better than people give it credit for.



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Dirty Work a classic?? Ppffttt!

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1. Jagger's entire solo output, except Wandering Spirit and half of She's the Boss.
2. Jagger's Down Under touring band
3. Richards' media appearances since the VL tour
4. Darryl Jones
5. Scorsese's Shine A Light movie

Mathijs

In the 80s Mathijs, not since the 80s.

he's just venting. let him vent lest he gets the ventilator booze or something...

1. Playing Devil by sampled congas: not only a musical crime, a crime towards humanity!

2. Production of Steel Wheels (guitar sound and synth)

3. Not touring for 8 years.

4. Matt Clifford

5. DW should have been a double album

C

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1. Playing Devil by sampled congas: not only a musical crime, a crime towards humanity!

2. Production of Steel Wheels (guitar sound and synth)

3. Not touring for 8 years.

4. Matt Clifford

5. DW should have been a double album

C

these are serious allegations. a tribunal hearing perhaps? if guilty, then what? death by synthesizer maybe?

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1. Playing Devil by sampled congas: not only a musical crime, a crime towards humanity!

2. Production of Steel Wheels (guitar sound and synth)

3. Not touring for 8 years.

4. Matt Clifford

5. DW should have been a double album

C

these are serious allegations. a tribunal hearing perhaps? if guilty, then what? death by synthesizer maybe?

Nah, death by Leavell tinkling.

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1. Playing Devil by sampled congas: not only a musical crime, a crime towards humanity!

2. Production of Steel Wheels (guitar sound and synth)

3. Not touring for 8 years.

4. Matt Clifford

5. DW should have been a double album

C

these are serious allegations. a tribunal hearing perhaps? if guilty, then what? death by synthesizer maybe?

Nah, death by Leavell tinkling.

a pee shower?

1. Not making Emotional Rescue the album it could have been.

2. Not making Undercover the album it could have been.

3. Not making Dirty Work the album it could have been.

4. Steel Wheels, marking the beginning of the "let's put out a half-baked album to justify the lucrative tour" era

5. State Of Shock.

Having thought about this for a while I'm gonna say its the clothes and guitars used on the steel wheels/urban jungle tour. Whilst at first this may seem a trivial point the fact they looked so awful and had obviously got the stylists in and actually listened to these idiots instead of trusting their own style show the band had truly lost its way. The album steel wheels is probably their worst as its totally soulless phoned in junk. But hey that's just what I think..

good point. the clothes are first to go...

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1. Keith, Ron and Charlie not being in shape enough to tour in '84 or behind Dirty Work.

2. Keith and Ron at Live Aid.

3. Inventing corporate tour sponsorship.

4. signing with Michael Cohl/Birth of the Vegas Era

5. Not writing an album that truly measures up to the previous two decades (cherry picking 2-3 good songs on their last six albums doesn't count, and Tattoo You is mostly 70's stuff). This crime also applies to the 90s, the 00s and the 10s.

Wasn't General Motors the corporate sponsor of the '72 tour, even though it wasn't widely publicized?

Keith Richards

Threads Is Cheap

What a great CD

Getting Chuck Leavell on board in 1982.
Chuck Leavell becoming the main keyboardist in 1989 - from then on Las Vegas.
Micheal Cohl as the promoter - from then on Las Vegas.

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Getting Chuck Leavell on board in 1982.
Chuck Leavell becoming the main keyboardist in 1989 - from then on Las Vegas.
Micheal Cohl as the promoter - from then on Las Vegas.

We're not allowed to bash Chuck anymore.
All the lads are down at the pub now. Fight's over.

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Getting Chuck Leavell on board in 1982.
Chuck Leavell becoming the main keyboardist in 1989 - from then on Las Vegas.
Micheal Cohl as the promoter - from then on Las Vegas.

We're not allowed to bash Chuck anymore.
All the lads are down at the pub now. Fight's over.

to be fair, he only used this opportunity to bash chuck on two-thirds of his post. so things are moving in the right direction.

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1. Keith, Ron and Charlie not being in shape enough to tour in '84 or behind Dirty Work.

2. Keith and Ron at Live Aid.

3. Inventing corporate tour sponsorship.

4. signing with Michael Cohl/Birth of the Vegas Era

5. Not writing an album that truly measures up to the previous two decades (cherry picking 2-3 good songs on their last six albums doesn't count, and Tattoo You is mostly 70's stuff). This crime also applies to the 90s, the 00s and the 10s.

Totally forgot about that trainwreck. Definitely a top 5'er.

To be fair, they couldn't hear themselves play, and the stage was being prepped for the grand finale. But, yes, total disaster.

no order;

chuck leavell

undercover record

jagger solo records

still life

steel wheels