NOTE: This thread has been simulcast

OK….we’re not nankering around here anymore…this is it. It’s for ALL THE MARBLES and as George Dubya once so eloquently stated, I’M THE DECIDER (although of course I love y’all feedback and observations, as long as they are strictly positive).

And NOW….TWO 70’s GIANTS!!! It’s ONLY Rock and Roll vs. Exile on Main Street…cut for cut, until we run out of cuts! Is what they say true about EOMS? The songs alone aren’t as good as they are together? Can EOMS survive an album death match challenge?!

1. If You Can’t Rock Me vs. Rocks Off – admittedly IYCRM is a damn good kick off track…sounds especially good on LYL coupled with GOMC, but it’s no Rocks Off…you can’t see me right now, but imagine me pirouetting as I’m explaining this….There are no others, this is the finest song on both albums. Best BRIDGE EVER!

Nothing comes close, nothing touches Rocks Off.

How in god’s name it wasn’t the lead single is not only a travesty, it’s beyond comprehension. It’s like, yeah, they sure can write’em, but they have no idea what they have once they’ve written it. I’m SO MESMORIZED right now, 0-1 for EOMS.

2. Ain’t Too Proud To Beg vs. Rip This Joint – very evenly matched. Too be sure, Rip This Joint is a bit of a cast off, but what a cast off…pure energy…it’s like when you’re 5 years old and you’re running gleefully down a big hill and then you realize you’re out of control and you can’t slow down and you’re running faster and faster and your think you’re gonna fall and wipe out and somehow you manage to hang in there at the bottom. And you’re relieved and thrilled. That’s Rip This Joint. But as possibly their best cover ever, and heresy I know, but let’s just get it out there, better than the original…we have “Beg” edging out “Joint” at the wire. I ain’t too proud to beg for your sympathy with this decision and we’re all tied up, 1-1.

3. It’s Only Rock and Roll vs. Shake Your Hips – please, how can you compare? Nothing wrong with Shake Your Hips, nothing at all but ZZ Top’s got more oomph with their Slim Harpo take, and It’s Only Rock and Roll is a masterful recording. So masterful they can’t come close to replicating it live. Easy pick and IORR retakes the lead 2-1

4. Till The Next Goodbye vs. Casino Boogie – I can’t even describe to you my love for Casino Boogie. What other band could have come up with that and dared put it out? Is it even a song? Just sonic goodness. But then we have elderberry wine and curing all your ills and general empathy and sadness until the next time…oh man, my tears are starting to well up right now…ok ok, let’s give this to the tear jerker. 3-1 and IORR is starting to pull away.

5. Time Waits For No One vs. Tumbling Dice – Tumbling Dice. You just have to. As much as TWFNO is gorgeous, and a time for MT to absolutely shine Tumbling Dice is the archetypal Stones song. It’s pure country pop perfection. EOMS closes the gap as we move to side two. 3-2

AND NOW…time for an ‘All the rum I want to drink it all the whisky too’ break….
OK, we’re back…and flipping over the respective vinyl slabs I see a super heavyweight and a bantam weight matchup:

6. Luxury vs. Sweet Virginia – I’m not going to honour this matchup with any actual commentary or analysis. Country Mick slays Reggae Mick ever day of the week. To quote Dubya again, if you’re not with me, you’re against me…3-3 and we’re all tied up.

7. Dance Little Sister vs. Torn & Frayed – this one’s interesting. I’m tempted to give it to Torn & Frayed just cuz it sits so nicely on their next to Sweet Virginia. Kind of like watching Laverne & Shirley right after Happy Days. Sure, Laverne & Shirley was a weaker show, but you were in the zone. NOT TODAY BABY! Dance Little Sister is in a weird ‘dead zone’ spot on side two, but it kills. It’s a freight train knocking us all over…it’s all about the BASS BILL….DANCE! DANCE LITTLE SISTA DANCE! DANCE LITTLE SISTA DA-ANCE! 4-3 and IORR moves back into the lead.

8. If You Really Want To Be My Friend vs. Sweet Black Angel. Is Sweet Black Angel even a song…just a gorgeous ethereal chat maybe? IYRWTBMF is just so tender I want to roll it up in crushed peppercorns and throw it on the bbq with a bit of salt. Beautiful. This one’s difficult…5-3 and IORR widens the lead once again.

9. Short & Curlies vs. Loving Cup – seriously, we should have put up Loving Cup vs some other, any other cut on IORR…it was going to probably slay absolutely everything, so why waste it on Short & Curlies. So we’re not going to say anything about that annoying piece of adolescent drivel, and instead sing the praises of Loving Cup. How in the hell does a song this good get buried at the end of side 2 on four sides of music? Gimme LITTLE DRINK! 5-4….things are getting tense.
OK, so here’s the conundrum…we have one more song on IORR and NINE more on EOMS. To be fair, I say we compare the final song on IORR to the next one up, the first song on side 3 EOMS and call it a day. OK, so here goes…

10. Fingerprint File vs. Happy – Funk vs. Rock, Fear vs. Happy, Mick vs. Keith. Is it a matter of overplay? Am I a mickist? Maybe it’s cuz I actually never took candy from strangers? I dunno, I dunno…I just don’t wanna talk about it, I just wanna see his face (OK, I’m moving beyond this matchup unintentionally). 6-4…IORR wins it over EOMS!

I’m going to get a lot of you pulling nankers on me right now…maybe I deserve it. But at least I can call a spade a spade.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-08-24 06:43 by treaclefingers.

I am pretty sure a special prosecutor may be announced soon to look into judge and jury tampering in this contest.

Tumbling Dice is "country pop" ? what?

other than that, your scores look pretty good... for a Mickist...

("especially good on LYL" had me rolling in the aisles...)



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Tumbling Dice is "country pop" ? what?

other than that, your scores look pretty good... for a Mickist...

("especially good on LYL" had me rolling in the aisles...)

ok, it's not what it looks like...I didn't mean Taylor Swift pop...more 'popular country'...oh, never mind.

I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

I would give 3) and 10) to IORR and call the final 8-2, in favor of EOMS.

But that's not really the point of this little exercise ... is it, treacle?

(Your deadpan delivery of "So masterful they can’t come close to replicating it live" is lovely, btw.)

The crowd over at the simulcast is none too pleased about the result. They're calling for an official inquiry. (They must have bet on the other horse.)

Some of them are saying THIS...

2. Ain’t Too Proud To Beg vs. Rip This Joint – very evenly matched. Too be sure, Rip This Joint is a bit of a cast off, but what a cast off…pure energy…it’s like when you’re 5 years old and you’re running gleefully down a big hill and then you realize you’re out of control and you can’t slow down and you’re running faster and faster and your think you’re gonna fall and wipe out and somehow you manage to hang in there at the bottom. And you’re relieved and thrilled. That’s Rip This Joint. But as possibly their best cover ever, and heresy I know, but let’s just get it out there, better than the original…we have “Beg” edging out “Joint” at the wire. I ain’t too proud to beg for your sympathy with this decision and we’re all tied up, 1-1.

Ha Ha,A killer song like ' Rip This Joint ' cleans even Mohammad Ali when he was the best ...

Rip This Joint vs Mohammad Ali 1 - 0

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The crowd over at the simulcast is none too pleased about the result. They're calling for an official inquiry. (They must have bet on the other horse.)

Some of them are saying THIS...

Yup, people are up in arms.
There is talk that Rowdy Ronda Rousey is now looking for Mr Fingers to have a short "talk" with him about the result (all of her "talks" seem to be short) and there is another rumor that the local mounties will be looking into whether or not proper forms were filled out and proper people paid for this "DEATH MATCH".

If You Really Want To Be My Friend wins over Sweet Black Angel????????????????

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If You Really Want To Be My Friend wins over Sweet Black Angel????????????????

Outrageous!!!!!

And that is only one of many disputed wins, as the outrage over this match now spans all 7 continents.

hmm....

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Oh man, this could go nuclear!!!

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Trump's probably happy with his Kenny Rodgers Schallplatten...

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Is this a metaphor?

Anyway, whatever the respective merits of EOMS and IORR, it isn't a level playing field, because EOMS is a double album.

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

I'm not sure I agree. Mick and Keith seem to think that Otis' cover of Satisfaction is better than the original, which is why they only play the Otis version in concert.

...and, haven't you ever heard Elvis' version of Hey Jude...it absolutely slays!

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If this were a Superbowl match-up, I would bet the house on Exile and give three songs!

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

I would say Jimi Hendrix' 'All Along the Watchtower" is superior to Bob Dylan's. I prefer the Stones' 'Love in Vain' to Robert Johnson's. The Stones' 'It's All Over Now' is better than Bobby Womack's.

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

I would say Jimi Hendrix' 'All Along the Watchtower" is superior to Bob Dylan's. I prefer the Stones' 'Love in Vain' to Robert Johnson's. The Stones' 'It's All Over Now' is better than Bobby Womack's.

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Excellent examples Bliss, I agree with you on every one. The key is obviously making the song your own and not trying to accurately reproduce the original.

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If this were a Superbowl match-up, I would bet the house on Exile and give three songs!

I'd take that bet, and remove Rocks Off, Tumbling Dice and Loving Cup...you'd be hooped!

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

I would say Jimi Hendrix' 'All Along the Watchtower" is superior to Bob Dylan's. I prefer the Stones' 'Love in Vain' to Robert Johnson's. The Stones' 'It's All Over Now' is better than Bobby Womack's.

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Just my opinion…….maybe I have too much respect for the originators (not…haha)

I'll give it a twist and say that it's easier to do a cover - you don't have to write it!

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

I would say Jimi Hendrix' 'All Along the Watchtower" is superior to Bob Dylan's. I prefer the Stones' 'Love in Vain' to Robert Johnson's. The Stones' 'It's All Over Now' is better than Bobby Womack's.

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Just my opinion…….maybe I have too much respect for the originators (not…haha)

I was just quoting from the death match evaluation, which said the stones' ain't to proud to beg was better than the original.

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

I would say Jimi Hendrix' 'All Along the Watchtower" is superior to Bob Dylan's. I prefer the Stones' 'Love in Vain' to Robert Johnson's. The Stones' 'It's All Over Now' is better than Bobby Womack's.

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Just my opinion…….maybe I have too much respect for the originators (not…haha)

I was just quoting from the death match evaluation, which said the stones' ain't to proud to beg was better than the original.

quit pussyfooting...take a position and stick with it.

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

I would say Jimi Hendrix' 'All Along the Watchtower" is superior to Bob Dylan's. I prefer the Stones' 'Love in Vain' to Robert Johnson's. The Stones' 'It's All Over Now' is better than Bobby Womack's.

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Just my opinion…….maybe I have too much respect for the originators (not…haha)

I was just quoting from the death match evaluation, which said the stones' ain't to proud to beg was better than the original.

quit pussyfooting...take a position and stick with it.

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Is roughly 3.5 times cooler than The Stones' version.

Some of these are mismatches. I mean, Time Waits for No One vs. Tumbling Dice is not fair as I love both.

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I would have given Rip The Joint the nod. A great original should always trump a great cover.....

even if it is, to quote the original post, "better than the original"?
treacle's post is worth re-reading a couple times

You mean to tell me a cover is better than the original?? If there wasn't an original, there could never be a cover. A cover can never be better than the original IMO.

I would say Jimi Hendrix' 'All Along the Watchtower" is superior to Bob Dylan's. I prefer the Stones' 'Love in Vain' to Robert Johnson's. The Stones' 'It's All Over Now' is better than Bobby Womack's.

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Just my opinion…….maybe I have too much respect for the originators (not…haha)

I was just quoting from the death match evaluation, which said the stones' ain't to proud to beg was better than the original.

quit pussyfooting...take a position and stick with it.

This

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Is roughly 3.5 times cooler than The Stones' version.

they're skinnier than mick...I can't take that seriously.