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NashvilleBlues
Sweet Black Angel was only played once live. Anyone have any reasons for this?
My uncle told me about a Stones show he saw. I looked up the details on setlist.fm, and found he was there for the only live SBA performance. Were any of you there?
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NashvilleBlues
Sweet Black Angel was only played once live. Anyone have any reasons for this?
My uncle told me about a Stones show he saw. I looked up the details on setlist.fm, and found he was there for the only live SBA performance. Were any of you there?
Look up the lyrics.
Unless Mick changes the words (well, one word), I have a pretty good idea why.
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MisterDDDD
Nice for your uncle!
Stevie Wonder opening.. from that Fort Worth show
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Erik_Snow
Because it didn't come off to good live with electric guitars. It's messy.
Loving Cup, which they did the first week of the tour, was a better contender for being a regular in the setlist, though they didn't play it after the machinery got really together, later on in 1972.
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Natlanta
something to do with Angela Davis?
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jbwelda
Angela Davis laughed at, scorned really, that song and the concept it could have been about her. She doesn't put up with white privilege and never has, nor sexist racist a holes using her in any manner including inspiration for a song that is both sexist and racist. And this song was pretty much the child of a marriage of white privilege and a marshmallow.
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NashvilleBlues
Sweet Black Angel was only played once live. Anyone have any reasons for this?
My uncle told me about a Stones show he saw. I looked up the details on setlist.fm, and found he was there for the only live SBA performance. Were any of you there?
Look up the lyrics.
Unless Mick changes the words (well, one word), I have a pretty good idea why.
I think that is unlikely. They knew the lyrics before they played it. And, they still play Brown Sugar.
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Mathijs
They only did it as the shows were filmed. They added Don't Lie To Me, Sweet Black Angel and Dead Flowers just for that, all rehearsed 2 days before in Dallas.
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jbwelda
And this song was pretty much the child of a marriage of white privilege and a marshmallow.
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jbwelda
Angela Davis laughed at, scorned really, that song and the concept it could have been about her. She doesn't put up with white privilege and never has, nor sexist racist a holes using her in any manner including inspiration for a song that is both sexist and racist. And this song was pretty much the child of a marriage of white privilege and a marshmallow.
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Mathijs
They only did it as the shows were filmed. They added Don't Lie To Me, Sweet Black Angel and Dead Flowers just for that, all rehearsed 2 days before in Dallas.
Mathijs
Interesting. I've heard the audio, but never seen the video. Where is it?
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jbwelda
Angela Davis laughed at, scorned really, that song and the concept it could have been about her. She doesn't put up with white privilege and never has, nor sexist racist a holes using her in any manner including inspiration for a song that is both sexist and racist. And this song was pretty much the child of a marriage of white privilege and a marshmallow.
jb
That's a lot of frustration in a few sentences...
I also read about Angela Davis' response (did she really or was it modified by ...) and by reading it I couldn't help thinking that if that is what she said, her intellect must have been limited. She was fighting for a great cause, but not being able to understand well hearted contributions of white people to support her fight, makes her thinking limited. The lyrics of SBA are not sexist and racist. Only frustrated people think that way. Poems so often have hidden meanings within them and it's for the open minds to be able to read/find them. "White privilege", what a b*llshit!
Once upon a time I was in Washington DC and was hungry arriving in a hotel after a long flight from Europe. The hotel manager told me that the only food place nearby was a McDonalds. He said I'd better not go there because it was for black people. To me, nothing is for white people only and consequently nothing was for black people only either. So I went there to get my meal and enjoyed it inside, surrounded by black people. Many strange looks, but it didn't make me feel uncomfortable in any way. It was more the other way around! The latter I could off course understand because this was the USA and they couldn't know I was a non racist white European. All was peaceful and I returned with a happy stomach back to the hotel. The manager thought I was crazy, well ... I didn't.
Mick's intensions were good ...
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jbwelda
Angela Davis laughed at, scorned really, that song and the concept it could have been about her. She doesn't put up with white privilege and never has, nor sexist racist a holes using her in any manner including inspiration for a song that is both sexist and racist. And this song was pretty much the child of a marriage of white privilege and a marshmallow.
jb
That's a lot of frustration in a few sentences...
I also read about Angela Davis' response (did she really or was it modified by ...) and by reading it I couldn't help thinking that if that is what she said, her intellect must have been limited. She was fighting for a great cause, but not being able to understand well hearted contributions of white people to support her fight, makes her thinking limited. The lyrics of SBA are not sexist and racist. Only frustrated people think that way. Poems so often have hidden meanings within them and it's for the open minds to be able to read/find them. "White privilege", what a b*llshit!
Once upon a time I was in Washington DC and was hungry arriving in a hotel after a long flight from Europe. The hotel manager told me that the only food place nearby was a McDonalds. He said I'd better not go there because it was for black people. To me, nothing is for white people only and consequently nothing was for black people only either. So I went there to get my meal and enjoyed it inside, surrounded by black people. Many strange looks, but it didn't make me feel uncomfortable in any way. It was more the other way around! The latter I could off course understand because this was the USA and they couldn't know I was a non racist white European. All was peaceful and I returned with a happy stomach back to the hotel. The manager thought I was crazy, well ... I didn't.
Mick's intensions were good ...
I heard her talk about it in person on a couple of occasions.
All that aside, I love the song myself. Just think the whole Angela Davis connection is contrived and not appreciated from the subject's corner.
You think white privilege is bullshit, and I bet you are white. Quite a common coinkidink I have found.
And good one about the s'mores.
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jbwelda
Angela Davis laughed at, scorned really, that song and the concept it could have been about her. She doesn't put up with white privilege and never has, nor sexist racist a holes using her in any manner including inspiration for a song that is both sexist and racist. And this song was pretty much the child of a marriage of white privilege and a marshmallow.
jb
That's a lot of frustration in a few sentences...
I also read about Angela Davis' response (did she really or was it modified by ...) and by reading it I couldn't help thinking that if that is what she said, her intellect must have been limited. She was fighting for a great cause, but not being able to understand well hearted contributions of white people to support her fight, makes her thinking limited. The lyrics of SBA are not sexist and racist. Only frustrated people think that way. Poems so often have hidden meanings within them and it's for the open minds to be able to read/find them. "White privilege", what a b*llshit!
Once upon a time I was in Washington DC and was hungry arriving in a hotel after a long flight from Europe. The hotel manager told me that the only food place nearby was a McDonalds. He said I'd better not go there because it was for black people. To me, nothing is for white people only and consequently nothing was for black people only either. So I went there to get my meal and enjoyed it inside, surrounded by black people. Many strange looks, but it didn't make me feel uncomfortable in any way. It was more the other way around! The latter I could off course understand because this was the USA and they couldn't know I was a non racist white European. All was peaceful and I returned with a happy stomach back to the hotel. The manager thought I was crazy, well ... I didn't.
Mick's intensions were good ...
I heard her talk about it in person on a couple of occasions.
All that aside, I love the song myself. Just think the whole Angela Davis connection is contrived and not appreciated from the subject's corner.
You think white privilege is bullshit, and I bet you are white. Quite a common coinkidink I have found.
And good one about the s'mores.
jb
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Taylor1
What exactly is a person of color? Hispanics from the Americas are genetically white.Black tribe’s enslaved other blacks in Africa .Many were sold to Arab and Europeans .The history of man is the history of atrocities by all races.Whites have done a lot of that to sub Saharan Africans.The Europeans enslaved and committed crimes and exploited Africans
because they were militarily stronger, therefore more atrocities by the victor.But Europeans also gave subSaharian blacks modern culture.They would have no modern plum such as hot water/cold water,clean water, air conditioning ,concrete buildings, modern medicine, cars, radios, phones,internet ,modern farming, written language,photography,airplanes,processed foods, shoes,mode clothing, televisions, electricity, hospitals etc.Yes, Europeans did exploit and committed atrocities but also gave them modern technology .So let’s address the bad and continue to correct it
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MisterDDDD
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Taylor1
What exactly is a person of color? Hispanics from the Americas are genetically white.Black tribe’s enslaved other blacks in Africa .Many were sold to Arab and Europeans .The history of man is the history of atrocities by all races.Whites have done a lot of that to sub Saharan Africans.The Europeans enslaved and committed crimes and exploited Africans
because they were militarily stronger, therefore more atrocities by the victor.But Europeans also gave subSaharian blacks modern culture.They would have no modern plum such as hot water/cold water,clean water, air conditioning ,concrete buildings, modern medicine, cars, radios, phones,internet ,modern farming, written language,photography,airplanes,processed foods, shoes,mode clothing, televisions, electricity, hospitals etc.Yes, Europeans did exploit and committed atrocities but also gave them modern technology .So let’s address the bad and continue to correct it
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bleedingman
She may be black but she's no angel. "For a judge's murder". The Stones were so damn naive, as documented in Gimme Shelter.