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No it doesn't.
You might be right about that. However...
The riff has the feel of the Talk is Cheap album. It is indeed a cool riff!
But I just don't like the lyrics... Perhaps too commercial, too personal, too polished. The lyrics also lack some nastiness...
I remember being so excited when Steel Wheels and Mixed Emotions came out, and I really dug the song back then. 1989 was the Stones' year in USA.
The Desert Trip version was quite bad, had no life in it.
This is the right take...not the muffled and overproduced official version:
[youtu.be]
The Desert Trip version imo is embarassing.
This is a good version, but even besides the speed, I don't hear Slave.
Yes it does. Your turn.
No it certainly does not. Safety in numbers.
May I add one of the first rehearsals of Tattoo You and Slave from 1975? First posted by Rockman.
Black Limousine is all right, but live versions were much, much better.
Do-it, Do-it, Do-it, Do-it, Do-aaaaaaaaaaaaat!
Is it the Best Stones song since 1981?
Why does it have to be "in my opinion"?
You could've just as easily said, "The Desert Trip version is embarassing."
No one would question THAT. What they would question is Why do you think so?
Meaning, you provide nothing as to why.
Seeing that the whole idea of, say, a place like iorr.org, is to express an opinion, by saying "imo" to mean that anything else you say is to be taken lightly etc? Isn't EVERYTHING anyone says here "in my opinion"? Unless sourced with facts? Or does it give some kind of fake importance to what you (anyone) said?
Yes, I know - unless backed up by facts, because opinions do not require facts, opinions mean zero without facts, and everyone has one blah blah blah 'the customer is always right' - no they're not.
Seems a bit weird to me that people go through the effort of saying "imo" or "just saying" after saying something. Say it better? Or just... say it?
Of course any live version won't be better than the studio version of... unless it is...
Because... we, "we", should know what that means.
IMO that is a sound argument.
Oh Nikkei...not quite right actually, but wonderful attempt.
Perhaps because you're from Germany something gets lost in the translation somewhere?
OK...first the good news.
The first 4 Do it's? Perfect. Just a really good job on those. Congratulations, you should be pleased.
The last one though? Ummm...have you listened to the song recently?
DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!
That's what you're hearing my friend. Maybe has something to do with masculine/feminine Der, Den, Dass...I don't know, I have a very weak knowledge of German but something is definitely throwing you off.
Repeat after me...
Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!
Just change that last it to an "at". Think of 'it' as feminine, and 'at' as masculine. You want to end on the masculine.
AND...make sure it's all capitalized, DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!! and have at least 6 exclamation marks after.
My work here is done.
LOL
You're right.
The Desert Trip version is embarassing.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: July 23, 2021 05:47
That whole first side of Tattoo You sounds like they just threw together some sounds in a hurry to fill it out after Start Me Up.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 23, 2021 06:59
Quote
24FPS
That whole first side of Tattoo You sounds like they just threw together some sounds in a hurry to fill it out after Start Me Up.
No it doesn't.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: July 23, 2021 08:01
Imo it's "Mixed Emotions"
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
frenki09
()
Date: July 23, 2021 12:41
Quote
KRiffhard
Imo it's "Mixed Emotions"
You might be right about that. However...
The riff has the feel of the Talk is Cheap album. It is indeed a cool riff!
But I just don't like the lyrics... Perhaps too commercial, too personal, too polished. The lyrics also lack some nastiness...
I remember being so excited when Steel Wheels and Mixed Emotions came out, and I really dug the song back then. 1989 was the Stones' year in USA.
The Desert Trip version was quite bad, had no life in it.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: July 23, 2021 12:57
Quote
frenki09Quote
KRiffhard
Imo it's "Mixed Emotions"
You might be right about that. However...
The riff has the feel of the Talk is Cheap album. It is indeed a cool riff!
But I just don't like the lyrics... Perhaps too commercial, too personal, too polished. The lyrics also lack some nastiness...
I remember being so excited when Steel Wheels and Mixed Emotions came out, and I really dug the song back then. 1989 was the Stones' year in USA.
The Desert Trip version was quite bad, had no life in it.
This is the right take...not the muffled and overproduced official version:
[youtu.be]
The Desert Trip version imo is embarassing.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: July 23, 2021 15:12
It's a GREAT song and the (now not so) recent circulation of the Art Collins tapes describes in details how they went from the 75 raw lenghty jam to the superb track on TY.
I won't spoil it for you (listen to the boots yourself) but it's a testimony to the band's (well Jagger and Richards) keen ear.
The "intermediary" 1980 versions (pre-Rollins) were nothing but awful but the band's acute musical sense made them realize they had to take another route : in 1981 they called Sonny and turned the song into an all-time classic.
And NO it wouldn't work live. At all.
I won't spoil it for you (listen to the boots yourself) but it's a testimony to the band's (well Jagger and Richards) keen ear.
The "intermediary" 1980 versions (pre-Rollins) were nothing but awful but the band's acute musical sense made them realize they had to take another route : in 1981 they called Sonny and turned the song into an all-time classic.
And NO it wouldn't work live. At all.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 23, 2021 18:19
Quote
KRiffhardQuote
frenki09Quote
KRiffhard
Imo it's "Mixed Emotions"
You might be right about that. However...
The riff has the feel of the Talk is Cheap album. It is indeed a cool riff!
But I just don't like the lyrics... Perhaps too commercial, too personal, too polished. The lyrics also lack some nastiness...
I remember being so excited when Steel Wheels and Mixed Emotions came out, and I really dug the song back then. 1989 was the Stones' year in USA.
The Desert Trip version was quite bad, had no life in it.
This is the right take...not the muffled and overproduced official version:
[youtu.be]
The Desert Trip version imo is embarassing.
This is a good version, but even besides the speed, I don't hear Slave.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: July 23, 2021 18:23
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
24FPS
That whole first side of Tattoo You sounds like they just threw together some sounds in a hurry to fill it out after Start Me Up.
No it doesn't.
Yes it does. Your turn.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
strat72
()
Date: July 23, 2021 18:26
No it isn't......
Not by a long long way....
Not by a long long way....
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
bisonvodka
()
Date: July 23, 2021 23:05
For all Slave lovers try to check Jimmy Mcintosch version on "Orleans to London". Ronnie contribute there and with two or three other tracks.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 23, 2021 23:09
Quote
24FPSQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
24FPS
That whole first side of Tattoo You sounds like they just threw together some sounds in a hurry to fill it out after Start Me Up.
No it doesn't.
Yes it does. Your turn.
No it certainly does not. Safety in numbers.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
georgemcdonnell314
()
Date: July 23, 2021 23:17
Can I third the "no it doesn't"
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: July 23, 2021 23:26
Quote
Rockman
May I add one of the first rehearsals of Tattoo You and Slave from 1975? First posted by Rockman.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: July 24, 2021 00:37
Quote
georgemcdonnell314
Can I third the "no it doesn't"
Black Limousine is all right, but live versions were much, much better.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
waterrats
()
Date: July 24, 2021 01:06
Yes.
... eer, maybe, I dunno.
However, it just could go on and go on for hours ... and I never would get bored. Never.
Just this must be a sign for a good song, at least for me, innit?
... eer, maybe, I dunno.
However, it just could go on and go on for hours ... and I never would get bored. Never.
Just this must be a sign for a good song, at least for me, innit?
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
kv2915
()
Date: July 24, 2021 02:07
I love this song…since the first listen.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 24, 2021 02:50
Quote
kv2915
I love this song…since the first listen.
Do-it, Do-it, Do-it, Do-it, Do-aaaaaaaaaaaaat!
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: July 24, 2021 03:45
….It’s a daily wonder that neighbors do unto neighbors
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
More Hot Rocks
()
Date: July 24, 2021 04:43
Is it? No. Next question
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
harlem shuffle
()
Date: July 24, 2021 05:18
No
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 24, 2021 06:23
Quote
More Hot Rocks
Is it? No. Next question
Is it the Best Stones song since 1981?
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 24, 2021 06:56
Quote
KRiffhardQuote
frenki09Quote
KRiffhard
Imo it's "Mixed Emotions"
You might be right about that. However...
The riff has the feel of the Talk is Cheap album. It is indeed a cool riff!
But I just don't like the lyrics... Perhaps too commercial, too personal, too polished. The lyrics also lack some nastiness...
I remember being so excited when Steel Wheels and Mixed Emotions came out, and I really dug the song back then. 1989 was the Stones' year in USA.
The Desert Trip version was quite bad, had no life in it.
This is the right take...not the muffled and overproduced official version:
[youtu.be]
The Desert Trip version imo is embarassing.
Why does it have to be "in my opinion"?
You could've just as easily said, "The Desert Trip version is embarassing."
No one would question THAT. What they would question is Why do you think so?
Meaning, you provide nothing as to why.
Seeing that the whole idea of, say, a place like iorr.org, is to express an opinion, by saying "imo" to mean that anything else you say is to be taken lightly etc? Isn't EVERYTHING anyone says here "in my opinion"? Unless sourced with facts? Or does it give some kind of fake importance to what you (anyone) said?
Yes, I know - unless backed up by facts, because opinions do not require facts, opinions mean zero without facts, and everyone has one blah blah blah 'the customer is always right' - no they're not.
Seems a bit weird to me that people go through the effort of saying "imo" or "just saying" after saying something. Say it better? Or just... say it?
Of course any live version won't be better than the studio version of... unless it is...
Because... we, "we", should know what that means.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 24, 2021 17:19
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
KRiffhardQuote
frenki09Quote
KRiffhard
Imo it's "Mixed Emotions"
You might be right about that. However...
The riff has the feel of the Talk is Cheap album. It is indeed a cool riff!
But I just don't like the lyrics... Perhaps too commercial, too personal, too polished. The lyrics also lack some nastiness...
I remember being so excited when Steel Wheels and Mixed Emotions came out, and I really dug the song back then. 1989 was the Stones' year in USA.
The Desert Trip version was quite bad, had no life in it.
This is the right take...not the muffled and overproduced official version:
[youtu.be]
The Desert Trip version imo is embarassing.
Why does it have to be "in my opinion"?
You could've just as easily said, "The Desert Trip version is embarassing."
No one would question THAT. What they would question is Why do you think so?
Meaning, you provide nothing as to why.
Seeing that the whole idea of, say, a place like iorr.org, is to express an opinion, by saying "imo" to mean that anything else you say is to be taken lightly etc? Isn't EVERYTHING anyone says here "in my opinion"? Unless sourced with facts? Or does it give some kind of fake importance to what you (anyone) said?
Yes, I know - unless backed up by facts, because opinions do not require facts, opinions mean zero without facts, and everyone has one blah blah blah 'the customer is always right' - no they're not.
Seems a bit weird to me that people go through the effort of saying "imo" or "just saying" after saying something. Say it better? Or just... say it?
Of course any live version won't be better than the studio version of... unless it is...
Because... we, "we", should know what that means.
IMO that is a sound argument.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 24, 2021 21:15
Do it do it do it do it do it (rehearse it)
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 25, 2021 00:31
Quote
Nikkei
Do it do it do it do it do it (rehearse it)
Oh Nikkei...not quite right actually, but wonderful attempt.
Perhaps because you're from Germany something gets lost in the translation somewhere?
OK...first the good news.
The first 4 Do it's? Perfect. Just a really good job on those. Congratulations, you should be pleased.
The last one though? Ummm...have you listened to the song recently?
DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!
That's what you're hearing my friend. Maybe has something to do with masculine/feminine Der, Den, Dass...I don't know, I have a very weak knowledge of German but something is definitely throwing you off.
Repeat after me...
Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!
Just change that last it to an "at". Think of 'it' as feminine, and 'at' as masculine. You want to end on the masculine.
AND...make sure it's all capitalized, DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!! and have at least 6 exclamation marks after.
My work here is done.
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 25, 2021 06:44
Fair point but you come across like Mick explaining how the cowbell goes
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 25, 2021 07:14
Quote
Nikkei
Fair point but you come across like Mick explaining how the cowbell goes
LOLRe: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
bitusa2012
()
Date: July 25, 2021 10:06
Not even close. I don’t even think it’s a song. Just a jam.
Rod
Rod
Re: Is SLAVE the best stones song since 1980?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: July 25, 2021 12:50
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
KRiffhardQuote
frenki09Quote
KRiffhard
Imo it's "Mixed Emotions"
You might be right about that. However...
The riff has the feel of the Talk is Cheap album. It is indeed a cool riff!
But I just don't like the lyrics... Perhaps too commercial, too personal, too polished. The lyrics also lack some nastiness...
I remember being so excited when Steel Wheels and Mixed Emotions came out, and I really dug the song back then. 1989 was the Stones' year in USA.
The Desert Trip version was quite bad, had no life in it.
This is the right take...not the muffled and overproduced official version:
[youtu.be]
The Desert Trip version imo is embarassing.
Why does it have to be "in my opinion"?
[[size=medium]b]You could've just as easily said, "The Desert Trip version is embarassing.[/size]"[/b]
No one would question THAT. What they would question is Why do you think so?
Meaning, you provide nothing as to why.
Seeing that the whole idea of, say, a place like iorr.org, is to express an opinion, by saying "imo" to mean that anything else you say is to be taken lightly etc? Isn't EVERYTHING anyone says here "in my opinion"? Unless sourced with facts? Or does it give some kind of fake importance to what you (anyone) said?
Yes, I know - unless backed up by facts, because opinions do not require facts, opinions mean zero without facts, and everyone has one blah blah blah 'the customer is always right' - no they're not.
Seems a bit weird to me that people go through the effort of saying "imo" or "just saying" after saying something. Say it better? Or just... say it?
Of course any live version won't be better than the studio version of... unless it is...
Because... we, "we", should know what that means.
You're right.
The Desert Trip version is embarassing.
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