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When you get a serious concussion like that, sometimes it's hard to get on a plane and go to altitude. Sometimes your brain swells if you do too much activity. Concussions can re-occur a lot easier because the brain has already been jolted loose from its housing. The smoking and drinking doesn't have as much to do with it as does the movement and activity a tour would require. The guy's got to be careful or else he could hemhorrage again.

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Cindy,
Your post was somehow lost in this very agitated thread. Do you want to say that the Stones tour has been postponed because Richards has a side project with Winos(or part of it)?

I can't believe Keith would hold up the Stones because he wanted to do a Wino's project/tour...perhaps that isn't what was meant?

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Cindy,
Your post was somehow lost in this very agitated thread. Do you want to say that the Stones tour has been postponed because Richards has a side project with Winos(or part of it)?

I can't believe Keith would hold up the Stones because he wanted to do a Wino's project/tour...perhaps that isn't what was meant?

I doubt whatever he's doing is holding up the RS's. I got the impression it was in place of. I wasn't given a lot of details just that something is up with what I mentioned and it's past the talking phase. I was told to keep my mouth shut, so that's pretty much all I can say. But it's nice to know Keith will be doing something, even if it's not RSs.

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Cindy,
Your post was somehow lost in this very agitated thread. Do you want to say that the Stones tour has been postponed because Richards has a side project with Winos(or part of it)?

I can't believe Keith would hold up the Stones because he wanted to do a Wino's project/tour...perhaps that isn't what was meant?

I doubt whatever he's doing is holding up the RS's. I got the impression it was in place of. I wasn't given a lot of details just that something is up with what I mentioned and it's past the talking phase. I was told to keep my mouth shut, so that's pretty much all I can say. But it's nice to know Keith will be doing something, even if it's not RSs.

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You don't survive that lifestyle without being lucky and just a cold-blooded @#$%&.

I wouldn't count him out yet.

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I was told to keep my mouth shut, so that's pretty much all I can say.

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Cindy,
Your post was somehow lost in this very agitated thread. Do you want to say that the Stones tour has been postponed because Richards has a side project with Winos(or part of it)?

I can't believe Keith would hold up the Stones because he wanted to do a Wino's project/tour...perhaps that isn't what was meant?

I doubt whatever he's doing is holding up the RS's. I got the impression it was in place of. I wasn't given a lot of details just that something is up with what I mentioned and it's past the talking phase. I was told to keep my mouth shut, so that's pretty much all I can say. But it's nice to know Keith will be doing something, even if it's not RSs.

Thanks for the clarification and that makes sense. Perhaps an RS tour is too big an undertaking with too much at stake financially to allow for the inherent risks? A Keith album/tour would be much smaller scale and Keith could probably 'self-insure' that type of an event, even if there was no insurance made available.

At the very least if that is what happens, we get Keith now, and maybe if the health issues aren't too bad, Keith gets 'light training' for next year.

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So, there is a solo album and tour for Richards in 2012, not the Stones. and this happens because... Mick doesn't want to do anything with the Stones..or KR just wants to record his solo album in Stones 50 ann. year or btw,I have long predicted that

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Cindy,
Your post was somehow lost in this very agitated thread. Do you want to say that the Stones tour has been postponed because Richards has a side project with Winos(or part of it)?

I can't believe Keith would hold up the Stones because he wanted to do a Wino's project/tour...perhaps that isn't what was meant?

I doubt whatever he's doing is holding up the RS's. I got the impression it was in place of. I wasn't given a lot of details just that something is up with what I mentioned and it's past the talking phase. I was told to keep my mouth shut, so that's pretty much all I can say. But it's nice to know Keith will be doing something, even if it's not RSs.

Thanks for the clarification and that makes sense. Perhaps an RS tour is too big an undertaking with too much at stake financially to allow for the inherent risks? A Keith album/tour would be much smaller scale and Keith could probably 'self-insure' that type of an event, even if there was no insurance made available.

At the very least if that is what happens, we get Keith now, and maybe if the health issues aren't too bad, Keith gets 'light training' for next year.

So, there is a solo album and tour for Richards in 2012, not the Stones. and this happens because... Mick doesn't want to do anything with the Stones..or KR just wants to record his solo album in Stones 50 ann. year or

btw,I have long predicted that

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So, there is a solo album and tour for Richards in 2012, not the Stones. and this happens because... Mick doesn't want to do anything with the Stones..or KR just wants to record his solo album in Stones 50 ann. year or btw,I have long predicted that

My source wouldn't have any concrete info on the RS's, so I can't say that they aren't doing anything. Just that Keith, and at least Ivan, is.

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Thanks for your info, Cindy.
There are way too much games and politics in the Stones world. Kinda pathetic in their advanced years and tiring for fans - at least for me

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From Rolling Stone:
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By Patrick Doyle
March 14, 2012 10:00 AM ET
Mick Jagger and Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones perform in 2007.REUTERS/Andrea Comas /LandovBelow is an abridged version of a story that appears in the upcoming issue of Rolling Stone, issue 1153 with Bruce Springsteen on the cover.

The Rolling Stones will not tour to mark their 50th anniversary this year, Rolling Stone has learned after separate interviews with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. "Basically, we’re just not ready," says Richards. Instead, 2013 is the new goal. "I have a feeling that’s more realistic," he adds.

Stones insiders say that one reason for the delay is Richards' health, which has raised questions about his ability to make it through a worldwide tour. A top concert-business source confirms the reservations over Richards’ condition and suggests that it is more likely that the band will avoid traveling in favor of camping out in major cities for multinight runs in arenas, similar to Prince's recent stands in New York and Los Angeles.

The Stones are already considering offers: The band asked for proposals from promoters AEG, Live Nation and longtime Stones promoter Michael Cohl. "We're drilling down on this new proposal," says the source.

The band may not be touring, but they will be busy through the end of the year with projects including new studio sessions and a major documentary. According to Richards, the Stones will begin rehearsing for a studio session as early as next month. "We’ll just get the boys back together again then and maybe cut a side," he says. "I’ve got plenty in the locker here, but it’s not on tape."

The news comes after the band gathered in a London studio in December and played together for the first time since the final night of the marathon two-year Bigger Bang tour in August 2007. Making the occasion even more special, former bassist Bill Wyman sat in for the first time since he left in 1992. "We played a lot of blues and outtakes of Some Girls and things like that," says Jagger. "It went very well."

Adds Richards, "It was a very back-to-basics sort of session. There was a lot of jamming. On the third day, Mick turned up, which was a real joy. Because I set it up really as a magnet, you know."

In the meantime, fans will get their Stones fix from the upcoming documentary, out in the fall, which will trace the band's entire 50-year journey and is packed with unseen footage and unreleased music. "Nobody has put the story together as a narrative," says the movie's director, Brett Morgen, who made 2002's The Kid Stays in the Picture. "We've been looking under every rock going through their archives. It will be music never heard before, and I've conducted 50-plus hours of interviews so far. By the time we're done, they will be the most extensive group interviews they've ever done." Says Richards, "He told me 80 percent of the footage has never been seen before, which amazes me. I didn't know there was that much around."

Despite holding off on touring this year, the band is still buzzing from reuniting with Wyman. "We're back in touch, which is great, because I hadn't really spoken to him for years," says Richards. Will Wyman rejoin the group on the road in 2013? "I think he's up for it," Richards says. "We talked about it. I'll let you know when I can."

And Richards points out that next year works just as well for an anniversary trek. "The Stones always really considered '63 to be 50 years, because Charlie [Watts] didn't actually join until January," Richards says. "We look upon 2012 as sort of the year of conception, but the birth is next year."

For the full story, read the March 29th, 2012 issue of Rolling Stone, available on stands and in Rolling Stone All Access March 16th.

This is so sad but it´s what i´ve said all the time, Keith can´t do it well enough anymore and he has got big issues with his fingers and head. It was very obvious during the Hubert Sumlin tribute. It´s over when it comes to touring, but it´s really great news with the docu. Really looking forward to that. Those of you that still think Keith will be able to pull off a tour in 2013, stop living in denial and try to be realistic. I would love one last tour as well, but i would hate to see my long time hero in this poor shape with big health issues trying to perform on a stage.

As a long time Stones fan who would like to be optimistic about their future, this latest read from Rolling Stone magazine (which historically has been on top of Stones events and has been an advocate for them) is pretty alarming. It pretty much states what many on the site have long suspected about the state of Keith's health. It would really distress me dearly to watch a potential train wreck on stage. These guys just ain't like an old blues act that can just sit down in a chair-they are performers of high energy rock and roll. Mick jagger is a perfectionist type and unless I really have misread this guy, he ain't gonna go out on stage and look stupid (especially on a 50th anniversary tour) in front of the whole world (unless of course he can divert attention from Keith by having the usual circus of support players on stage to compensate).
To the Rolling Stones: if you are reading this, you have given the world so much with your endless catalogue of great & timeless music. You don't owe anybody anything and you don't have to prove anything as you've already done it many times over. Go out on top, you earned it. I can't speak for others on this board but I would be happy re-living great moments from your past (and what made you great) with any unreleased material from the archives.

Very nice words, and sincere concerns, but trust me, everything is going to work out.

Just your natural (and admirable) faith and optism Sonescrow, or do you have some info we don't?

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It would be incredibly satisfying to see all these guys playing together again. Let's hope Keith uses the next few months wisely so he can join in on the fun next year.

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More of the same.

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It would be incredibly satisfying to see all these guys playing together again. Let's hope Keith uses the next few months wisely so he can join in on the fun next year.

Sounds like the fun is going to begin next month when they all meet up in the studio. Honestly, if I had a choice between a new album and a tour I would take a new album. I have always liked the idea of select performances rather than some huge tour.

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Interesting post by GlimmerGirl24 on Shidoobee...for what it may be worth...

According to a source I consider credible, Mick has also talked and said the tour planned for this year was 30 dates spread over a few months with ten dates each in LA at Staples, NYC at MSG and London at O2. Wyman was planning to be part of the tour. Unfortunately, the band couldn't get Keith insured for the tour. Keith has good days and bad days, on the bad days - he can't perform. At the recent Hubert Sumlin show - supposedly he was having a bad moment and that is why he was on stage without his guitar. He improved later in the show. Anyway, the Stones were unable to find a physician that would sign off that Keith was healthy enough to play the dates.

Supposedly, Keith has had mini strokes over the past several years - which might or might not be related to the brain injury, but I suspect the mini strokes were an issue before that. There were vision issues after the brain injury and that have been corrected. However, he's a stroke risk, has to avoid stimulants that raise his blood pressure and does have bad days where he can't function at the level he would need to for a tour. No insurance, no tour.

The Stones are hoping that Keith's condition will improve enough that they are able to insure him next year.

Take it all with a grain of salt, but the explanation that they are unable to insure Keith seems very credible. Mini-strokes also explains behavior we saw on the last tour. "

In my opinion, this is all nonsense and disinfo, the same as what Gazza was
spreading. There was never any tour seriously considered for this year.
And Keith has not had any mini strokes. Even more ridiculous is the notion
that Keith couldn't play his guitar at the Apollo, but ten minutes later he
could. As I said, nonsense and disinfo.

That doesn't mean that concerns about Keith's health are not in play. It just
means that he has not had any strokes. Any signs that are being interpreted
in that way are because of the side effects of all the prescription drugs
he is using. Prescription drugs are the concern right now, after what they
did to Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. In my opinion.

Also, the notion that Keith couldn't find a doctor to certify him for a
tour is laughable. You give them enough money, they'll certify anything.
and then give you a few more prescriptions.

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Interesting post by GlimmerGirl24 on Shidoobee...for what it may be worth...

According to a source I consider credible, Mick has also talked and said the tour planned for this year was 30 dates spread over a few months with ten dates each in LA at Staples, NYC at MSG and London at O2. Wyman was planning to be part of the tour. Unfortunately, the band couldn't get Keith insured for the tour. Keith has good days and bad days, on the bad days - he can't perform. At the recent Hubert Sumlin show - supposedly he was having a bad moment and that is why he was on stage without his guitar. He improved later in the show. Anyway, the Stones were unable to find a physician that would sign off that Keith was healthy enough to play the dates.

Supposedly, Keith has had mini strokes over the past several years - which might or might not be related to the brain injury, but I suspect the mini strokes were an issue before that. There were vision issues after the brain injury and that have been corrected. However, he's a stroke risk, has to avoid stimulants that raise his blood pressure and does have bad days where he can't function at the level he would need to for a tour. No insurance, no tour.

The Stones are hoping that Keith's condition will improve enough that they are able to insure him next year.

Take it all with a grain of salt, but the explanation that they are unable to insure Keith seems very credible. Mini-strokes also explains behavior we saw on the last tour. "

In my opinion, this is all nonsense and disinfo, the same as what Gazza was
spreading. There was never any tour seriously considered for this year.
And Keith has not had any mini strokes. Even more ridiculous is the notion
that Keith couldn't play his guitar at the Apollo, but ten minutes later he
could. As I said, nonsense and disinfo.

That doesn't mean that concerns about Keith's health are not in play. It just
means that he has not had any strokes. Any signs that are being interpreted
in that way are because of the side effects of all the prescription drugs
he is using. Prescription drugs are the concern right now, after what they
did to Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. In my opinion.

Also, the notion that Keith couldn't find a doctor to certify him for a
tour is laughable. You give them enough money, they'll certify anything.
and then give you a few more prescriptions.

Excellent comments. I agree.

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you people are posting some crazy stuff,there is nothing wrong with keiths brain,from a stroke or anything else,didnt anybody read the brilliant book or see him talking to jimmy fallon,he's brilliant,as far as his playing being shitty after the fall,i saw the stones 2 weeks after they filmed shine a light in atlantic city,and keith was on fire.

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More of the same.

The truth will come out soon enough I imagine. Not that I am wishing for anything bad, but I suspect "it is what it is".

Why doesn't Keith simply say "I am not ready" rather than the "band" or "we"?

Also, despite the negative trappings, if the Stones really want a big payday - and I bet Ronnie Wood, Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman would want one at least as much as Jagger or Richards - wouldn't just setting up in Vegas for six months be the easiest thing to do for Keith's (or anyone else's) health? NO TRAVELLING needed at all, huge payday, bigger as they go. And, it wouldn't stop until THEY stopped.

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you people are posting some crazy stuff,there is nothing wrong with keiths brain,from a stroke or anything else,didnt anybody read the brilliant book or see him talking to jimmy fallon,he's brilliant,as far as his playing being shitty after the fall,i saw the stones 2 weeks after they filmed shine a light in atlantic city,and keith was on fire.

Yes, and what about the New York Library interview? He looks great these days and sounds great also. If they stick to select performances everything will be fine.