Perhaps this was already posted before, just discovered it yesterday:





Johnny kicks ass, great rocking version. A while ago I read, that Johnny heard an early Stonesversion of this song in 1973 and recorded it for his LP. Must be true, because this version is very simular to a well known stones outtake!

Keep rockin ....

not sure if johnny heard and early version or was actually given the song and then the stones deceided to do another version for goats head soup



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smoken version of a great song.... although the audience seems quite sedate and seated. I wondr where this is from.

Brilliant base and bottlenecking...

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I think Johnny had this version from the Stones in mind:





"... mamama, mamama, mamamajajajajaja ...."

Just great music - both versions!

The Stones wrote it for Johnny, no?

No, the Stones didn't write Silver Train for Johnny Winter. They recorded it during the sessions for Sticky Fingers, but it got held over.

John Lennon wrote a song specifically for Johnny Winter, entitled Rock n Roll People.

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No, the Stones didn't write Silver Train for Johnny Winter. They recorded it during the sessions for Sticky Fingers, but it got held over.

John Lennon wrote a song specifically for Johnny Winter, entitled Rock n Roll People.

not sure if this is true or not but directly from a johnny winter albums liner notes "Winter was shown the demo of silver train by one of the stones and decided to record a version thinking the band had shelved the song"

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No, the Stones didn't write Silver Train for Johnny Winter. They recorded it during the sessions for Sticky Fingers, but it got held over.

John Lennon wrote a song specifically for Johnny Winter, entitled Rock n Roll People.

not sure if this is true or not but directly from a johnny winter albums liner notes "Winter was shown the demo of silver train by one of the stones and decided to record a version thinking the band had shelved the song"

That is true. As a matter of fact, Winter finished the song first.

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No, the Stones didn't write Silver Train for Johnny Winter. They recorded it during the sessions for Sticky Fingers, but it got held over.

John Lennon wrote a song specifically for Johnny Winter, entitled Rock n Roll People.

not sure if this is true or not but directly from a johnny winter albums liner notes "Winter was shown the demo of silver train by one of the stones and decided to record a version thinking the band had shelved the song"

That is true. As a matter of fact, Winter finished the song first.

cool so in the end the song wasn't technically written for him but he thought his would be the only version

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No, the Stones didn't write Silver Train for Johnny Winter. They recorded it during the sessions for Sticky Fingers, but it got held over.

John Lennon wrote a song specifically for Johnny Winter, entitled Rock n Roll People.

not sure if this is true or not but directly from a johnny winter albums liner notes "Winter was shown the demo of silver train by one of the stones and decided to record a version thinking the band had shelved the song"

That is true. As a matter of fact, Winter finished the song first.

cool so in the end the song wasn't technically written for him but he thought his would be the only version

Then there is the story about the switch: Winther's I'm Yours And I'm Hers and Silver Train...

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No, the Stones didn't write Silver Train for Johnny Winter. They recorded it during the sessions for Sticky Fingers, but it got held over.

John Lennon wrote a song specifically for Johnny Winter, entitled Rock n Roll People.

not sure if this is true or not but directly from a johnny winter albums liner notes "Winter was shown the demo of silver train by one of the stones and decided to record a version thinking the band had shelved the song"

That is true. As a matter of fact, Winter finished the song first.

cool so in the end the song wasn't technically written for him but he thought his would be the only version

Then there is the story about the switch: Winther's I'm Yours And I'm Hers and Silver Train...

don't know that story

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No, the Stones didn't write Silver Train for Johnny Winter. They recorded it during the sessions for Sticky Fingers, but it got held over.

John Lennon wrote a song specifically for Johnny Winter, entitled Rock n Roll People.

not sure if this is true or not but directly from a johnny winter albums liner notes "Winter was shown the demo of silver train by one of the stones and decided to record a version thinking the band had shelved the song"

That is true. As a matter of fact, Winter finished the song first.

cool so in the end the song wasn't technically written for him but he thought his would be the only version

Then there is the story about the switch: Winther's I'm Yours And I'm Hers and Silver Train...

don't know that story

Coinciding with a compilation of old recordings called The Progressive Blues Experiment, Johnny's 'official' debut album, Johnny Winter (1969), was enthusiastically welcomed by the likes of John Lennon and The Rolling Stones, who opened their famous Hyde Park concert with Winter's "I'm Hers and I'm Yours". Each wrote songs for Johnny - "Rock'n'Roll People" and "Silver Train", respectively. Buoyed by such big-time approbation and his own self-confidence ('In my own mind, I was the best white blues player around,' he said), Winter plunged into an exhausting, if lucrative, schedule on the hard rock circuit. He hit Woodstock and went down a storm.

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"We get a double taste of the Stones with two numbers. One is the new "Silver Train," reportedly written for Johnny".

I would add that Johnny Winter's first two albums, namely Johnny Winter and Second Winter highlight some amazing blues rock.

His third album with the remnants of the McCoys, christened And, isn't as bluesy as the first two. Although the album Johnny Winter And Live, which opens with Good Morning Little School Girl, where Jumpin Jack Flash is also covered, has some good bluesy moments, it is, predominantly, a heavy blues-rock album.

I would also add that Winter continued in the rock vein, with the odd not to the blues, i.e. Silver Train and Too Much Seconal, until he was given the honour of producing Muddy Waters' Hard Again. It was then that he reverted to playing more blues influenced material.

I remember the story that Winter was visiting the Stones while recording/rehearsing and asked for a song.
He heard an early version of the still unreleased Silver train and liked it a lot.The Stones/ Jagger allowed him to take the song.

Similar story to F.B. Brothers Wild Horses version, which was released before the Stones original version as well.

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I remember the story that Winter was visiting the Stones while recording/rehearsing and asked for a song.
He heard an early version of the still unreleased Silver train and liked it a lot.The Stones/ Jagger allowed him to take the song.

Similar story to F.B. Brothers Wild Horses version, which was released before the Stones original version as well.

Yeah, although the story was a bit more complex, I think. Didn't they send the tapes for Sneaky Pete Kleinow to do overdubs in 1969, but they weren't happy with the results?

I reckon Gram heard it, and liked the song, so he asked for the Burritos to record it?

Wild Horses - Sneaky Pete was in the Burritos.

I think the overdubbed part was the piano part, which was sent to Leon Russell to work his magic on.

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Wild Horses - Sneaky Pete was in the Burritos.

I think the overdubbed part was the piano part, which was sent to Leon Russell to work his magic on.

An early version of WH with the Stones was posted here a couple of months ago, with Sneaky Pete's slide guitar parts instead of Keith's lead guitar, if memory serves.



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sounds too much like johnny's version of all down the line...

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sounds too much like johnny's version of all down the line...

He hits the D too late, though...

i like the 2 early 90's johnny winter albums HEY WHERES YOUR BROTHER and LET ME IN

On what bootleg is the Silver Train early version?

Its on Invasion's Its Only Rock n Roll and also on VG's (VGP-057) Lonely At The Top/Nasty Habits.
Johnny Winter (proud he's from my hometown) also does a kickass version of STRAY CAT BLUES too..

Listen to "It's my own fault" on Johnny winter and live and you're sold !

I like both live albums from the early/mid seventies =>

Johnny Winter and Live and Captured Live.

On captured live one can find one of the most thrilling solo's ever on
Johnny rendition of Highway 61. Absolutely fabulous.

Now that's what we call guitar playing !

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I would add that Johnny Winter's first two albums, namely Johnny Winter and Second Winter highlight some amazing blues rock.

His third album with the remnants of the McCoys, christened And, isn't as bluesy as the first two. Although the album Johnny Winter And Live, which opens with Good Morning Little School Girl, where Jumpin Jack Flash is also covered, has some good bluesy moments, it is, predominantly, a heavy blues-rock album.

I would also add that Winter continued in the rock vein, with the odd not to the blues, i.e. Silver Train and Too Much Seconal, until he was given the honour of producing Muddy Waters' Hard Again. It was then that he reverted to playing more blues influenced material.

please do add those things, then. i believe it sums up to two.

Damn, I have all Winter's albums up to GUITAR SLINGER or whatever it is called in my archives but I haven't listened them for 25 years or something. Now when I looked at the titles mentioned here - JOHNNY WINTER, SECOND WINTER, JW AND, JW AND LIVE, STILL ALIVE AND WELL (my first and favourite actually), RED, HOT & BLUE, CAPTURED LIVE... it was very hard to remeber what do they contain. I was a huge fan first, but somehow lost the interest. Winter's sound was way too hard during his "rock period" to my taste eventually. The same fuzz guitar sound and that endless soloing and screaming. The need to fill the space with noise and notes. Especially the live stuff was too hard (boring) to listen. Is SECOND WINTER the album with three sides (1.5 album))? I remember it reviewed as a masterpiece, but honestly, I couldn't ever listen that album all the way through. Yeah, the stuff he did with Muddy was excellent though, HARD AGAIN is one of the best blues albums ever. If not the best.

- Doxa



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Always loved Johnny, in my opinion one of the best guitarists of all time, and a real blues man.



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