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Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: March 7, 2012 03:32

Quote
superrevvy
and of course its not just the lyrics, which are just words. its also the actions,
which speak louder than...

why does he stick with jerry hall to a certain point and then suddenly bolt for
this very tall thing? why does he put the world on hold with regard to the
50th? why does he not ever confess how he feels? why does he pull the plug on
superheavy right when it goes top 5 in dozens of countries?

your position seems to be "i can't possibly know unless mick tells me"

my position is, "mick will never tell you, and if he does he's purposefully
lieing, so you might as well get to work on the problem yourself or with
others, because there is no alternative. except eternal ignorance"

Nice to see someone else is sort of getting it. In short, Mick is a drama queen in a sort of business like way. He is a master promoter and script writer. He has very carefully and masterfully scripted the last five years since the conclusion of the ABB tour. He will always give you a little bit, but not the entire piece of the pie right up until the very last possible moment. People that take the Rolling Stones, Mick Jagger, (and even life itself) too literal are going to struggle in their understanding. Once you realize that they are winking at you that's when the fun begins. I have enjoyed the last five years more than when they are actually touring. It's the anticipation of things to come that makes life so exciting.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: March 7, 2012 03:44

Quote
Claire_M
Quote
superrevvy
I remember reading in the newspaper that there are cities in America where there is not only a minimum score on a test you need to qualify as a cop, but also a maximum! Apparently if you're too smart, they won't hire you! I always meant to follow up on that article to see if this was a widespread practice, but I never have.

A professor once told me the reasoning behind that is smart people aren't as obedient; they question orders rather than just following them. I don't know how widespread the practice is.

Thanks for the Joss Stone track; that was nice.

The professor you speak of is a wise man. The vast majority of people are followers and only see what those they are following tell them to see. In short, they lack vision.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: March 7, 2012 19:20

For those of you who are Facebook friends with Bernard, he made some interesting comments about Jagger's White House performance.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: March 7, 2012 20:33

Quote
BluzDude
For those of you who are Facebook friends with Bernard, he made some interesting comments about Jagger's White House performance.

And for those of us who aren't on Facebook, could somebody please those interesting comments here ?

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Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: tumbled ()
Date: March 7, 2012 20:45

(I wish people wouldn't harass Bernard...)

here is what he said:

"Please dont send me any more messages or emails about Jagger at the white house. I saw it and what you saw was a pure adrenaline rush. Sometimes we(vocalist/performers)in trying to be the best get a rush thats so powerful I cant even begin to describe. If we dont control adrenaline , it controls us and thats what you saw!!! He was excited! If youve been to a RS show you would know that he does it big. A stadium performanece in a living
room is what you saw .Didnt look tired to me just look excited. I think he kicked ass and thats all Im gonna say about it."

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: March 7, 2012 20:48

As I am at work, I do not have the ability to cut and paste from facebook to IORR on my work computer. ...see above.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-07 20:50 by BluzDude.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: March 7, 2012 20:58

Quote
tumbled
(I wish people wouldn't harass Bernard...)

here is what he said:

"Please dont send me any more messages or emails about Jagger at the white house. I saw it and what you saw was a pure adrenaline rush. Sometimes we(vocalist/performers)in trying to be the best get a rush thats so powerful I cant even begin to describe. If we dont control adrenaline , it controls us and thats what you saw!!! He was excited! If youve been to a RS show you would know that he does it big. A stadium performanece in a living
room is what you saw .Didnt look tired to me just look excited. I think he kicked ass and thats all Im gonna say about it."

I've stepped out of this thread for several pages so I'm not even sure what direction this thread has gone since I left but are people still harping on about the out of breath thing?? Please. And for people to bother Bernard over this...poor taste.

Anyway, his response is excellent. I'm not sure how it can be explained anymore succinctly than that. Move on, people.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: March 7, 2012 21:23

Good reply from Bernard. Thanks for posting

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Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: March 8, 2012 00:52

Quote
stonescrow
Quote
superrevvy
and of course its not just the lyrics, which are just words. its also the actions,
which speak louder than...

why does he stick with jerry hall to a certain point and then suddenly bolt for
this very tall thing? why does he put the world on hold with regard to the
50th? why does he not ever confess how he feels? why does he pull the plug on
superheavy right when it goes top 5 in dozens of countries?

your position seems to be "i can't possibly know unless mick tells me"

my position is, "mick will never tell you, and if he does he's purposefully
lieing, so you might as well get to work on the problem yourself or with
others, because there is no alternative. except eternal ignorance"

Nice to see someone else is sort of getting it. In short, Mick is a drama queen in a sort of business like way. He is a master promoter and script writer. He has very carefully and masterfully scripted the last five years since the conclusion of the ABB tour. He will always give you a little bit, but not the entire piece of the pie right up until the very last possible moment. People that take the Rolling Stones, Mick Jagger, (and even life itself) too literal are going to struggle in their understanding. Once you realize that they are winking at you that's when the fun begins. I have enjoyed the last five years more than when they are actually touring. It's the anticipation of things to come that makes life so exciting.

Yeah, it's so much more fun speculating as to what they're going to do, than to listen to new music or attend live shows.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: March 8, 2012 06:48

1) According to twitter, Mick's hanging out with Dave Stewart in NYC,
while L'wren is in Paris.

2) T.H.E. is as promised at last being used in chrysler commercials, but not
the mick part...





3) fashion week in india, and one designer based his whole collection on mick.
fun pics: [www.rediff.com]

4) official white house photo. good one!





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-08 11:15 by superrevvy.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: March 8, 2012 10:40

Nice picture. Looks like they are having fun.

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Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: March 8, 2012 21:45

Quote
tumbled
(I wish people wouldn't harass Bernard...)

here is what he said:

"Please dont send me any more messages or emails about Jagger at the white house. I saw it and what you saw was a pure adrenaline rush. Sometimes we(vocalist/performers)in trying to be the best get a rush thats so powerful I cant even begin to describe. If we dont control adrenaline , it controls us and thats what you saw!!! He was excited! If youve been to a RS show you would know that he does it big. A stadium performanece in a living
room is what you saw .Didnt look tired to me just look excited. I think he kicked ass and thats all Im gonna say about it."

From Bernard's interview:
"BF: The first record my father gave me was by The Rolling Stones so it is fitting that I have been able to become a working singer/musician with them. I have been lucky enough to work on all of their albums since 1989. I have also worked on solo records for Keith Richards and Mick Jagger. I have worked on the jazz albums by Charlie Watts and I have produced two records for Ronnie Woods.

What have you learned from this experience?

BF: I think the main thing I have learned is that since James Brown passed away, Mick Jagger is the hardest working man in show business!"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-08 22:27 by proudmary.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: March 8, 2012 21:51

Bernard knows what he is talking about

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Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: March 8, 2012 22:14

Quote
Rolling Hansie
Bernard knows what he is talking about

... doesn't he know that James Brown is dead?

(sorry sorry - Bernard is a lovely person and i hope it's a pre-2006 interview being quoted up there)

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: March 8, 2012 22:23

sorry for my mistake, of course he said "I think the main thing I have learned is that since James Brown passed away, Mick Jagger is the hardest working man in show business!"
This is an interview from Feb 5, 2012
"There are a ton of rumors swirling about whether or not The Rolling Stones will tour this year to commemorate their 50th anniversary. If they do it will you be on the road with them?
Bernard Fowler: If they go and If I am asked to join them, yes I will be there. There's no way I can say no! It will be Rock and Roll History in the making."

[voices.yahoo.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-08 22:26 by proudmary.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: March 8, 2012 22:24

Quote
with sssoul
... doesn't he know that James Brown is dead?
(sorry sorry - Bernard is a lovely person and i hope it's a pre-2006 interview being quoted up there)

I am quite sure he knows that.
That's what I thought was so funny in the quote from that interview.
And I agree with you describing Bernard as a lovely person, although I would rather refer to him as a nice guy smiling smiley
And he surely knows how hard Mick is working.

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Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: March 8, 2012 22:32

Quote
proudmary
This is an interview from Feb 5, 2012 be Rock and Roll History in the making."
[voices.yahoo.com]

And a very nice interview, thanks.
Also a picture of a very good looking Bernard

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Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: March 8, 2012 23:31

(I did not know that there is a 20 year-old ballet based on moves like Jagger's
and that it still gets performances)

Tonight, Houston Ballet performs Rooster, Associate Choreographer Christopher
Bruce's dance interpretations of eight Rolling Stones songs including "Little Red
Rooster," "Paint It Black" and "Sympathy for the Devil." If that sounds a little
lowbrow for the ballet, the program also includes two works by the company's
Artistic Director, Stanton Welch: Divergence, which uses the music of Georges
Bizet, and Tapestry, an adaptation of Mozart's Violin Concerto No. 5.

Rooster draws heavily from Stones front man Mick Jagger's cock-like dance moves,
which some have compared to ballet itself over the years; Bruce has said the ballet
is based on the "sexual war" he witnessed as a young man in the 1960s. Rooster
premiered in Geneva in 1991...

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: March 8, 2012 23:45

Quote
proudmary
sorry for my mistake, of course he said "I think the main thing I have learned is that since James Brown passed away, Mick Jagger is the hardest working man in show business!"
This is an interview from Feb 5, 2012
"There are a ton of rumors swirling about whether or not The Rolling Stones will tour this year to commemorate their 50th anniversary. If they do it will you be on the road with them?
Bernard Fowler: If they go and If I am asked to join them, yes I will be there. There's no way I can say no! It will be Rock and Roll History in the making."

[voices.yahoo.com]

Funny, stonescrow got ripped to pieces for suggesting same not too very long ago - Mick Jagger being hardest working man in show business, that is.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: March 8, 2012 23:50

Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
stonescrow
Quote
superrevvy
and of course its not just the lyrics, which are just words. its also the actions,
which speak louder than...

why does he stick with jerry hall to a certain point and then suddenly bolt for
this very tall thing? why does he put the world on hold with regard to the
50th? why does he not ever confess how he feels? why does he pull the plug on
superheavy right when it goes top 5 in dozens of countries?

your position seems to be "i can't possibly know unless mick tells me"

my position is, "mick will never tell you, and if he does he's purposefully
lieing, so you might as well get to work on the problem yourself or with
others, because there is no alternative. except eternal ignorance"

Nice to see someone else is sort of getting it. In short, Mick is a drama queen in a sort of business like way. He is a master promoter and script writer. He has very carefully and masterfully scripted the last five years since the conclusion of the ABB tour. He will always give you a little bit, but not the entire piece of the pie right up until the very last possible moment. People that take the Rolling Stones, Mick Jagger, (and even life itself) too literal are going to struggle in their understanding. Once you realize that they are winking at you that's when the fun begins. I have enjoyed the last five years more than when they are actually touring. It's the anticipation of things to come that makes life so exciting.

Yeah, it's so much more fun speculating as to what they're going to do, than to listen to new music or attend live shows.

Can't speak for others, but for me it is. Always has been.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: March 9, 2012 00:37

Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
stonescrow
Quote
superrevvy

your position seems to be "i can't possibly know unless mick tells me"

my position is, "mick will never tell you, and if he does he's purposefully
lieing, so you might as well get to work on the problem yourself or with
others, because there is no alternative. except eternal ignorance"

Nice to see someone else is sort of getting it. In short, Mick is a drama queen in a sort of business like way. I have enjoyed the last five years more than when they are actually touring. It's the anticipation of things to come that makes life so exciting.

Yeah, it's so much more fun speculating as to what they're going to do, than to listen to new music or attend live shows.

despite being quoted sorta affirmatively by stonescrow, let me just say that I
am nonetheless much more in the treacle camp on this...

1) Yes, I have always enjoyed Mick's media manipulations on behalf of the
Stones, but that was when the Stones were a culturally dominant at least
semi-working band
.

2) Whatever Mick is up to these days, manipulation-wise, I see no evidence
whatsoever that it is building up hype and anticipation. Intentionally or not,
I think the life-blood is being drained from the myth of the 50th anniversary
Stones, day by day, drop by drop.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-03-09 00:40 by superrevvy.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: March 9, 2012 01:04

Quote
superrevvy
Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
stonescrow
Quote
superrevvy

your position seems to be "i can't possibly know unless mick tells me"

my position is, "mick will never tell you, and if he does he's purposefully
lieing, so you might as well get to work on the problem yourself or with
others, because there is no alternative. except eternal ignorance"

Nice to see someone else is sort of getting it. In short, Mick is a drama queen in a sort of business like way. I have enjoyed the last five years more than when they are actually touring. It's the anticipation of things to come that makes life so exciting.

Yeah, it's so much more fun speculating as to what they're going to do, than to listen to new music or attend live shows.

despite being quoted sorta affirmatively by stonescrow, let me just say that I
am nonetheless much more in the treacle camp on this...

1) Yes, I have always enjoyed Mick's media manipulations on behalf of the
Stones, but that was when the Stones were a culturally dominant at least
semi-working band
.

2) Whatever Mick is up to these days, manipulation-wise, I see no evidence
whatsoever that it is building up hype and anticipation. Intentionally or not,
I think the life-blood is being drained from the myth of the 50th anniversary
Stones, day by day, drop by drop.

Things are building quite nicely for the 50th. We are in a lull period for the moment. That will all change over the next few months when things begin to ratchet up. Could be that some of the "lovely things" will bleed over into the early part of 2013.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: March 9, 2012 01:36

You should be quite revved up for the gigs that take place in July.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: March 9, 2012 01:42

The biggest lol for me so far was yesterday, when somebody on shidoobee quoted
charlie in his radio interview as saying the problem was "all of them were
very busy". LOL!

Not just funny in and of itself, but also funny because it a perfect quote of
what Dave Stewart kept saying when SuperHeavy didn't get it together for any shows.
Or any more recording.

And this is how "busy" the SuperHeavies were:

1) AR announced a "world tour" and did one show in Dubai.

2) Dave and Joss announced the "More Love tour" and did two small shows
in California.

3) Mick helped seat the guests and serve sushi at the L'Wren show.

4) Since the SuperHeavy album was released, Damian has released two
songs, neither of them particularly successful, and done a few shows
in Latin America, which were nothing more than the Nas shows without Nas.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: Marmalade ()
Date: March 9, 2012 03:07

>>Tonight, Houston Ballet performs Rooster, Associate
Choreographer Christopher Bruce's dance interpretations
of eight Rolling Stones songs including "Little Red Rooster,"
"Paint It Black" and "Sympathy for the Devil." If that sounds
a little lowbrow for the ballet, the program also includes two
works by the company's Artistic Director, Stanton Welch: Divergence,
which uses the music of Georges Bizet, and Tapestry, an adaptation
of Mozart's Violin Concerto No. 5.

Rooster draws heavily from Stones front man Mick Jagger's cock-like
dance moves, which some have compared to ballet itself over the years;
Bruce has said the ballet is based on the "sexual war" he witnessed
as a young man in the 1960s. Rooster premiered in Geneva in 1991... <<


The National Ballet of Canada showed this in Toronto in 2008. Other
Stones songs that the dancers performed to were "Ruby Tuesday" and
"Lady Jane". It was excellent.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: March 9, 2012 03:18

Quote
stonesrule
You should be quite revved up for the gigs that take place in July.

The book for certain. I would have no problem with a tour and new album coming later. Even 2013 would be OK. Lot's of lovely things over the next year I am sure. Can't wait to see what the new book reveals in the way of pics. Should be quite interesting come July 12.

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: superrevvy ()
Date: March 9, 2012 10:12

NY Post: Mick Jagger showed off his moves yet again on the dance floor at
Meatpacking hot spot Double Seven. The Rolling Stones legend got into a friendly
dance-off with ex-Eurythmics star Dave Stewart on Wednesday night. Spies said the
pair, who play in the supergroup SuperHeavy together, got down to a rock mash-up of
MGMT, the Doors, David Bowie and Talking Heads. Earlier in the night, the duo was
spotted at dinner at the Lambs Club before heading out clubbing. It wasn’t the
first time the veteran rockers have torn up the dance floor together, they also put
on a show at SuperHeavy’s album release party there last fall.

L'Wren: Moon over Paris tonight pic.twitter.com/Av8WXQDD

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: TrulyMicks ()
Date: March 9, 2012 15:57

Quote
stonescrow

I have enjoyed the last five years more than when they are actually touring. It's the anticipation of things to come that makes life so exciting.

Are you serious? This is more fun than going to a live show? How could it be?

I don't agree that the last five years have been masterfully scripted, but I do agree with you that Mick likes to play games

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: TrulyMicks ()
Date: March 9, 2012 16:01

Quote
tumbled
(I wish people wouldn't harass Bernard...)

here is what he said:

"Please dont send me any more messages or emails about Jagger at the white house. I saw it and what you saw was a pure adrenaline rush. Sometimes we(vocalist/performers)in trying to be the best get a rush thats so powerful I cant even begin to describe. If we dont control adrenaline , it controls us and thats what you saw!!! He was excited! If youve been to a RS show you would know that he does it big. A stadium performanece in a living
room is what you saw .Didnt look tired to me just look excited. I think he kicked ass and thats all Im gonna say about it."

I think he kicked ass too! I haven't been on his facebook...what were people complaining about?

Re: Mick Jagger live at The White House Feb 21
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: March 9, 2012 17:14

Quote
TrulyMicks
Quote
stonescrow

I have enjoyed the last five years more than when they are actually touring. It's the anticipation of things to come that makes life so exciting.

Are you serious? This is more fun than going to a live show? How could it be?

I don't agree that the last five years have been masterfully scripted, but I do agree with you that Mick likes to play games

Honestly, the build up is more exciting to me at this stage of my life. I have no plans to attend another live performance. I am, however, very excited for the new album and the eventual DVD documenting whatever they ultimately end up doing in 2012 and 2013. Even if all it is, is Mick bursting forth from the inside of a giant 50th birthday cake to the tune of Jumpin Jack Flash.

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