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I rememember reading some of these quotes.
Mick's comments about Patti Smith are interesting. He was really nasty in interviews during this time, I don't if he was grumpy because of his divorce or just trying agitate, but Mick's comments during this time should be taken with a grain of salt. During this time, he also made very denigrating comments about everything from Elvis and Olivia Newton-John to religion...anything.
He sounded like a very bitter person then.
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stupidguy2
I rememember reading some of these quotes.
Mick's comments about Patti Smith are interesting. He was really nasty in interviews during this time, I don't if he was grumpy because of his divorce or just trying agitate, but Mick's comments during this time should be taken with a grain of salt. During this time, he also made very denigrating comments about everything from Elvis and Olivia Newton-John to religion...anything.
He sounded like a very bitter person then.
It seemed to me a conscious 'out punk the punks' mentality when it came to slagging off almost every other act around as they were doing the same. Clearly the influence didnt just stop at music and fashion. He's never really been like that before or since.
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stupidguy2
I rememember reading some of these quotes.
Mick's comments about Patti Smith are interesting. He was really nasty in interviews during this time, I don't if he was grumpy because of his divorce or just trying agitate, but Mick's comments during this time should be taken with a grain of salt. During this time, he also made very denigrating comments about everything from Elvis and Olivia Newton-John to religion...anything.
He sounded like a very bitter person then.
It seemed to me a conscious 'out punk the punks' mentality when it came to slagging off almost every other act around as they were doing the same. Clearly the influence didnt just stop at music and fashion. He's never really been like that before or since.
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stupidguy2
I rememember reading some of these quotes.
Mick's comments about Patti Smith are interesting. He was really nasty in interviews during this time, I don't if he was grumpy because of his divorce or just trying agitate, but Mick's comments during this time should be taken with a grain of salt. During this time, he also made very denigrating comments about everything from Elvis and Olivia Newton-John to religion...anything.
He sounded like a very bitter person then.
It seemed to me a conscious 'out punk the punks' mentality when it came to slagging off almost every other act around as they were doing the same. Clearly the influence didnt just stop at music and fashion. He's never really been like that before or since.
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stupidguy2
I rememember reading some of these quotes.
Mick's comments about Patti Smith are interesting. He was really nasty in interviews during this time, I don't if he was grumpy because of his divorce or just trying agitate, but Mick's comments during this time should be taken with a grain of salt. During this time, he also made very denigrating comments about everything from Elvis and Olivia Newton-John to religion...anything.
He sounded like a very bitter person then.
It seemed to me a conscious 'out punk the punks' mentality when it came to slagging off almost every other act around as they were doing the same. Clearly the influence didnt just stop at music and fashion. He's never really been like that before or since.
Unfortunately, as much as I have enjoyed Mick Jagger as a singer and performer, as I have gotten older, I have found myself becoming embarassed and irritated by some of his slagging comments during his early years. I watched Gimme Shelter not too long ago-in particular the clip of Mick watching Tina Turner during her performance of "Ive Been Loving You Too Long." At the end of it, he looks into the camera and says sarcastically something along the lines of: "Its good to have a chic sometimes." Yeah, real classy Mick. He seems clearly pissed by how good her performance was that he had to slag her.
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stupidguy2
I rememember reading some of these quotes.
Mick's comments about Patti Smith are interesting. He was really nasty in interviews during this time, I don't if he was grumpy because of his divorce or just trying agitate, but Mick's comments during this time should be taken with a grain of salt. During this time, he also made very denigrating comments about everything from Elvis and Olivia Newton-John to religion...anything.
He sounded like a very bitter person then.
It seemed to me a conscious 'out punk the punks' mentality when it came to slagging off almost every other act around as they were doing the same. Clearly the influence didnt just stop at music and fashion. He's never really been like that before or since.
Could be... I mean, he's positively vitriolic toward Patti and she idolized him, openly. It also seemed slightly sexist, criticizing her looks etc...that's low and not characteristic of Jagger, not to that extreme.
If he was trying to be punk, that's one thing, but it really made him seem petty, something he had never been, at least publically. I mean, some of the things he said during that period were really mean, bitchy and bitter. He was also doing much coke then, so maybe it made him more nasty. I still tend to think Jagger was on a tightrope during this period, stressed to the max with the Keith saga and divorce and not knowing where the band was heading etc...I imagine it was a turbulent time in alot of ways... Keith didn't just become "clean" in one year, he still had some ways to go and his health was still very much a question. In retrospect, we know how it all worked out, but in 79, it might have been a real unknown. And maybe the punk thing just encouraged him to be a brat about it...
Mick has always been calm, the one in charge etc..but maybe this it what happened when he was under some heavy pressure, when he was sitting on the can while the shit hit the fan in all directions - the unknowns about his band, best friend and personal life.
I always wondered what P.Smith thought about those early comments.
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Ross
Hey, the punks started it. They thumped a sleeping giant in the balls, prompting said giant to make the best, most offensive punk album of the day!
Some Girls basically killed punk. Notice how post-Some Girls "punk" became "new wave" and became much less vitriolic (The Cars? please!).
The Stones invented punk...The Ramones, etc, just revived it.
"We piss anywhere, man!"
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Great post! I've just tracked down the details of the Sounds article: it appeared in the 29 October 1977 edition. The digitised text is available (at a price, I'm afraid) at
[www.rocksbackpages.com]