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Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: February 5, 2012 17:43

Love the 69 tour and the way they played UMT, esp. at Altamont.
Some 81 weren't bad as well. But Hampton to me is not one of the best.Even some from 97 tour- like the Dusseldorf version- weren't so bad.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: flilflam ()
Date: February 5, 2012 18:48





This version in Austin, Texas is very good. It also shows that Keith can play a great solo. It is better than any other other version I have ever heard.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 5, 2012 20:04

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melillo
just because mick n keith rearranged it during the wood versions should not reflect on woody

The 81 version is the very same arrangement as they used in 1965 with Brian. Listen to the opening track on Got Live If You Want It.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: February 5, 2012 21:38

and your point is?

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: audun-eg ()
Date: February 5, 2012 22:08

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flilflam




This version in Austin, Texas is very good. It also shows that Keith can play a great solo. It is better than any other other version I have ever heard.

Nice version for sure, but who's playing Keiths part when he clearly isn't playing the guitar? Or when he most clearly doesn't play what you hear.
I guess it's a studio fix/overdub.

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Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: boituvense ()
Date: February 5, 2012 22:34

Woody version rocks.......

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: February 5, 2012 22:39

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Erik_Snow
Under My Thumb from Altamont 1969 is absolutely fantastic. The best version I know of that song

+1

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 6, 2012 04:22

Nobody for the fantastic Got Live version? That was the first time I ever heard the song. I still compare every version to that one. "Ladies and Gentlemen it's all about to happen...!"

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: stones78 ()
Date: February 6, 2012 04:30

I don't like any live version, be it with Brian, Taylor, Wood. The studio version is perfect.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: February 6, 2012 05:23

the '85 version was too sloppy. Probably due to the fact that charlie was on junk.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 6, 2012 10:50

Quote melillo
just because mick n keith rearranged it during the wood versions should not reflect on woody

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melillo
and your point is?

It shouldn't reflect on Woody, as he only played a prior arranged version from 1965 in 1981.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 6, 2012 11:14

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Palace Revolution 2000
Nobody for the fantastic Got Live version? That was the first time I ever heard the song. I still compare every version to that one. "Ladies and Gentlemen it's all about to happen...!"

+ 1 thumbs up

Both Keith and Brian play solos on this version. Didn't happen too often.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 6, 2012 14:24

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DandelionPowderman
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Palace Revolution 2000
Nobody for the fantastic Got Live version? That was the first time I ever heard the song. I still compare every version to that one. "Ladies and Gentlemen it's all about to happen...!"

+ 1 thumbs up

Both Keith and Brian play solos on this version. Didn't happen too often.

I think you are mistaken regarding Brian playing a solo on UMT.

Also, there's 2 live versions from UK 66 tour, one has overdubbed marimba in addition to the vocals etc.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-02-06 14:30 by His Majesty.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: leteyer ()
Date: February 6, 2012 14:39

The studio version is mind blowing. That's how I got hooked.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: February 6, 2012 15:16

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flilflam




This version in Austin, Texas is very good. It also shows that Keith can play a great solo. It is better than any other other version I have ever heard.

First, it's not Keith, and second it is a terrible solo.

All guitars on this track are overdubbed by the guitar techs.

Mathijs

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 6, 2012 15:57

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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman
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Palace Revolution 2000
Nobody for the fantastic Got Live version? That was the first time I ever heard the song. I still compare every version to that one. "Ladies and Gentlemen it's all about to happen...!"

+ 1 thumbs up

Both Keith and Brian play solos on this version. Didn't happen too often.

I think you are mistaken regarding Brian playing a solo on UMT.

Also, there's 2 live versions from UK 66 tour, one has overdubbed marimba in addition to the vocals etc.

Well, on my copy of Have You Seen Your Mother LIVE, there clearly are two short solo breaks straight after eachother, and it sure sounds like both guitarists play.

However, it COULD be that Keith did an extra overdub in the studio, but the way it sounds I really doubt it. I'm gonna have one more listen, though.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 6, 2012 16:08

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DandelionPowderman


Well, on my copy of Have You Seen Your Mother LIVE, there clearly are two short solo breaks straight after eachother, and it sure sounds like both guitarists play.

However, it COULD be that Keith did an extra overdub in the studio, but the way it sounds I really doubt it. I'm gonna have one more listen, though.

Just so we are listening to the same version, does the one you have feature an overdubbed marimba?

If we go by what Bill has said about that album I think it's a certainty that Keith overdubbed guitar on some if not all of the tracks.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: The Joker ()
Date: February 6, 2012 16:22

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Mathijs
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flilflam




This version in Austin, Texas is very good. It also shows that Keith can play a great solo. It is better than any other other version I have ever heard.

First, it's not Keith, and second it is a terrible solo.

All guitars on this track are overdubbed by the guitar techs.

Mathijs

Mathijs, who is playing?

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 6, 2012 17:03

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The Joker
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Mathijs
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flilflam




This version in Austin, Texas is very good. It also shows that Keith can play a great solo. It is better than any other other version I have ever heard.

First, it's not Keith, and second it is a terrible solo.

All guitars on this track are overdubbed by the guitar techs.

Mathijs

Mathijs, who is playing?

"Additional recordings by Pierre DeBeauport and Dave Rouze". It's in the liner notes.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 6, 2012 17:04

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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman


Well, on my copy of Have You Seen Your Mother LIVE, there clearly are two short solo breaks straight after eachother, and it sure sounds like both guitarists play.

However, it COULD be that Keith did an extra overdub in the studio, but the way it sounds I really doubt it. I'm gonna have one more listen, though.

Just so we are listening to the same version, does the one you have feature an overdubbed marimba?

If we go by what Bill has said about that album I think it's a certainty that Keith overdubbed guitar on some if not all of the tracks.

No marimba smiling smiley Only the guitars playing the riff. Some humming from Mick in the beginning.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: February 6, 2012 17:24

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DandelionPowderman
"Additional recordings by Pierre DeBeauport and Dave Rouze".

pierre and dave have perfected the weave

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 6, 2012 17:26

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StonesTod
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DandelionPowderman
"Additional recordings by Pierre DeBeauport and Dave Rouze".

pierre and dave have perfected the weave

They're more into crocheting, if you ask me (which you didn't) smiling smiley

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: February 6, 2012 17:50

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DandelionPowderman
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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman


Well, on my copy of Have You Seen Your Mother LIVE, there clearly are two short solo breaks straight after eachother, and it sure sounds like both guitarists play.

However, it COULD be that Keith did an extra overdub in the studio, but the way it sounds I really doubt it. I'm gonna have one more listen, though.

Just so we are listening to the same version, does the one you have feature an overdubbed marimba?

If we go by what Bill has said about that album I think it's a certainty that Keith overdubbed guitar on some if not all of the tracks.

No marimba smiling smiley Only the guitars playing the riff. Some humming from Mick in the beginning.

Mix of original recording and overdubs. There's another version in which the high notes are missing, but the other main guitar is the same.

So that makes 3different versions using same basic recording.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 6, 2012 17:53

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His Majesty
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
His Majesty
Quote
DandelionPowderman


Well, on my copy of Have You Seen Your Mother LIVE, there clearly are two short solo breaks straight after eachother, and it sure sounds like both guitarists play.

However, it COULD be that Keith did an extra overdub in the studio, but the way it sounds I really doubt it. I'm gonna have one more listen, though.

Just so we are listening to the same version, does the one you have feature an overdubbed marimba?

If we go by what Bill has said about that album I think it's a certainty that Keith overdubbed guitar on some if not all of the tracks.

No marimba smiling smiley Only the guitars playing the riff. Some humming from Mick in the beginning.

Mix of original recording and overdubs. There's another version in which the high notes are missing, but the other main guitar is the same.

So that makes 3different versions using same basic recording.

So, the conclusion is overdub by Keith? Darn, can't we at least have one well-documented Brian solo that's not slide? I thought I had one there winking smiley

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: The Joker ()
Date: February 6, 2012 18:01

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DandelionPowderman
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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman
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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman


Well, on my copy of Have You Seen Your Mother LIVE, there clearly are two short solo breaks straight after eachother, and it sure sounds like both guitarists play.

However, it COULD be that Keith did an extra overdub in the studio, but the way it sounds I really doubt it. I'm gonna have one more listen, though.

Just so we are listening to the same version, does the one you have feature an overdubbed marimba?

If we go by what Bill has said about that album I think it's a certainty that Keith overdubbed guitar on some if not all of the tracks.

No marimba smiling smiley Only the guitars playing the riff. Some humming from Mick in the beginning.

Mix of original recording and overdubs. There's another version in which the high notes are missing, but the other main guitar is the same.

So that makes 3different versions using same basic recording.

So, the conclusion is overdub by Keith? Darn, can't we at least have one well-documented Brian solo that's not slide? I thought I had one there winking smiley

What about the credits? Who is paid for what? Must be a little fussy.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: pmk251 ()
Date: February 6, 2012 19:53

I remember hearing UMT during the 11/8/69, 2nd show. The show started well after midnight, there was a fatigue factor and there was what seemed like a long stretch of low key songs. The nice, gentle groove introduction to UMT was welcomed and a signaled a change of pace in the show. The performance of that song perked me up.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: February 6, 2012 23:31

1. Studio
2. Altamont
3. 1981

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 7, 2012 00:44

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DandelionPowderman
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The Joker
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Mathijs
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flilflam




This version in Austin, Texas is very good. It also shows that Keith can play a great solo. It is better than any other other version I have ever heard.

First, it's not Keith, and second it is a terrible solo.

All guitars on this track are overdubbed by the guitar techs.

Mathijs

Mathijs, who is playing?

"Additional recordings by Pierre DeBeauport and Dave Rouze". It's in the liner notes.
Indeed. I wasn't aware WHo it was w/ the overdubs, but that is wild - absolutely not Keith solo-ing. At first the solo has the Strat sound, that up till then had been Ronnie, and then a dirtier sound comes in, but it is obvious from the left hand that it is not Keith playing.

Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Posted by: Tornandfrayed ()
Date: February 7, 2012 00:46

MSG 28/11/69 (1st)

My all time favorite, very similar to Altamont but it includes I´m Free (which is cut here unfortunately): great tempo and a killer Keith guitar solo...




Re: Under My Thumb - the song with the most different feel between MT and RW
Date: February 7, 2012 00:47

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The Joker
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DandelionPowderman
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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman
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His Majesty
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DandelionPowderman


Well, on my copy of Have You Seen Your Mother LIVE, there clearly are two short solo breaks straight after eachother, and it sure sounds like both guitarists play.

However, it COULD be that Keith did an extra overdub in the studio, but the way it sounds I really doubt it. I'm gonna have one more listen, though.

Just so we are listening to the same version, does the one you have feature an overdubbed marimba?

If we go by what Bill has said about that album I think it's a certainty that Keith overdubbed guitar on some if not all of the tracks.

No marimba smiling smiley Only the guitars playing the riff. Some humming from Mick in the beginning.

Mix of original recording and overdubs. There's another version in which the high notes are missing, but the other main guitar is the same.

So that makes 3different versions using same basic recording.

So, the conclusion is overdub by Keith? Darn, can't we at least have one well-documented Brian solo that's not slide? I thought I had one there winking smiley

What about the credits? Who is paid for what? Must be a little fussy.

While not a solo, but today I was listening to the Stones "Roll Over Beethoven" recording. And it is another one of the older recordings by them where we can really hear the dual guitars. Brian is very prominent.
I have to say my favorite Brian guitar is "Confessin the Blues".

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