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A great set list!

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What happened to El Cocamambo 77?

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But of course I'll be downloading this official Hampton release as well, since it has better stereo seperation.

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What happened to El Cocamambo 77?

We have to put a stop to this. The joke was dated over a week ago.

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What happened to El Cocamambo 77?

We have to put a stop to this. The joke was dated over a week ago.

i started a joke...which started the whole world crying....

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What happened to El Cocamambo 77?

We have to put a stop to this. The joke was dated over a week ago.

i started a joke...which started the whole world crying....

Hmm.. was it you who was the first one complaining about the mispelling... and from that the whole thing just exploded... (actually I think I am one of the quilty one by calling it weeks earlier El Columbo just by accident.. And I swear it was purely a lapsus!)

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What happened to El Cocamambo 77?

We have to put a stop to this. The joke was dated over a week ago.

i started a joke...which started the whole world crying....

Hmm.. was it you who was the first one complaining about the mispelling... and from that the whole thing just exploded... (actually I think I am one of the quilty one by calling it weeks earlier El Columbo just by accident.. And I swear it was purely a lapsus!)

- El Doxamo

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What happened to El Cocamambo 77?

We have to put a stop to this. The joke was dated over a week ago.

i started a joke...which started the whole world crying....

Hmm.. was it you who was the first one complaining about the mispelling... and from that the whole thing just exploded... (actually I think I am one of the quilty one by calling it weeks earlier El Columbo just by accident.. And I swear it was purely a lapsus!)

- El Doxamo

I'm afraid it was me and my incessant need for proper improper Spanish.

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I just put the 3 Hampton boot CDs I have together in the set list order of the official boot and the only track missing is YCAGWYW.

Good grief, this one can't be the one that Under My Thumb was used for on Still Life - it's HORRIBLE! Bill's bum notes, Mick coming in with the enthusiasm of a 89 year old yawn. Nothing like the Still Life version. Charlie sounds good though.

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Everybody here, me included, who is somewhat disappointed in Hampton 1981 was absolutely satisfied with both Brussels and Fort Worth. So there's no need to try twisting this into the lame "people here are never satisfied". That's just BS.

Brussels and Fort Worth was stunning. And Hampton is also stunning. But the trouble is that I/we have allready been "stunned" by the bootleg. Is that so hard to grasp?

But of course I'll be downloading this official Hampton release as well, since it has better stereo seperation.

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Everybody here, me included, who is somewhat disappointed in Hampton 1981 was absolutely satisfied with both Brussels and Fort Worth. So there's no need to try twisting this into the lame "people here are never satisfied". That's just BS.

Brussels and Fort Worth was stunning. And Hampton is also stunning. But the trouble is that I/we have allready been "stunned" by the bootleg. Is that so hard to grasp?

But of course I'll be downloading this official Hampton release as well, since it has better stereo seperation.

Everybody was not satisfied with Brussels Affair. Many complaints about that as well. The reception wasn't quite as hostile as what Hampton is getting, but I still saw MANY complaints. I think when somebody says "people here are never satisfied" they don't mean that YOU as a person, or that person right over there are never satisfied, but that you simply can't please everybody in this community. Even if they released every really rare show that a majority of people want, there would probably be some that wanted Hampton, or some that wanted some other rare shows, or some that wanted concerts they were in attendance for released, etc.

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DP - {I seldom disagree with Doxa, but on this topic I have to say that I can't agree with his 1981 being the "culmination of 20 years"-theory. While 1978 was a return-to-form, reinventing themselves as a current force venture, I see the 1981 tour, and more so the European leg of 1982,as a phase of increasing disorientation within the band. Other than 1978 with Some Girl, they knew that Tattoo You was not a creative highpoint of the current band, but born out of the necessity that came with the fact that creatively, the band was not able to come up with an all-new album. By 1982, the confidence and vigor of 1978 was totally gone and most shows sounded rather ramshackle. 1981 had some stellar shows, Hampton of course included, but also some apparent signs of decline which became all too obvious in Europe 1982. Someone else mentioned that the Some Girls material sounded rather lifeless in 1981/82 compared to 1978. I think that's because the spirit of 1978 was largely gone by then. In 1978, they played songs with breakneck speed because they felt like it. So to speak, in 1981 and 1982, they played songs with breakneck speed to hide something - the increasing lifeliness and emptiness within the band.

This does not take away an ounce from the fact that shows like Hampton '81 are amongst the best they ever played!}

Some good points here, but I'm not too sure I'd agree that Tattoo You was full of older tracks because the Stones had lost the ability to come up with good new material. I think it was a problem of logistics and maybe some poor planning on someone's part. Instead of recording a whole new album and then planning a tour, they had the tour booked perhaps too soon in advance. According to interviews I've read with Mick and Keith, they realized they were in a time crunch to get an album out to tour behind. Therefore they scoured the vaults and selected some great material that was almost finished and the songs were great selections that begged to be put on an album. Start Me Up, Black Limousine, Slave, and pretty much everything else made for a great album even if the basic tracks originated in the past. And they did have time to record a few brand new ones which are also great. To me it doesn't make sense to say they played many songs very fast in '78 because they felt like it, but they played them fast in '81 to hide "lifelessness" in the band. I think they played them fast because they were into it and they were rocking! I thought they were just as vital in '81 as they were in '78. To me, Hampton proves it!

Some good points here, Dan, but I don't necessarily agree with everything.

IMO, some songs from Some Girls improved on the 1981-tour. Shattered and Imagination come to mind.

However, the 1982 shows tend to be noticable weaker than the show from the US.

Concerning the tempo, I'm not sure if the tempo would be very different if we measured with a metronome, but it had something to do with Charlie's playing, imo. He was a bit static and machine-like on this tour.

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Hmmmm...In re to comments from DOXA, too bad they didn't do a different set each night a la the Grateful Dead, now that would've been cool!!!

...and the 100 Club setlist is awesome!!!!

Also, if they had used the Hampton show for the "At the Max" film, instead of 1982, fans feelings about that release may be different...

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The Rolling Stones
The Rolling Stones are releasing another bootleg, remixed and remastered by Bob Clearmountain: Hampton Coliseum (Live 1981). It's out now to American fans on Google Android [tinyurl.com]. Everyone else, an announcement with release details will follow imminently. This is the artwork.



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Everybody here, me included, who is somewhat disappointed in Hampton 1981 was absolutely satisfied with both Brussels and Fort Worth. So there's no need to try twisting this into the lame "people here are never satisfied". That's just BS.

Brussels and Fort Worth was stunning. And Hampton is also stunning. But the trouble is that I/we have allready been "stunned" by the bootleg. Is that so hard to grasp?

But of course I'll be downloading this official Hampton release as well, since it has better stereo seperation.

Everybody was not satisfied with Brussels Affair. Many complaints about that as well. The reception wasn't quite as hostile as what Hampton is getting, but I still saw MANY complaints. I think when somebody says "people here are never satisfied" they don't mean that YOU as a person, or that person right over there are never satisfied, but that you simply can't please everybody in this community. Even if they released every really rare show that a majority of people want, there would probably be some that wanted Hampton, or some that wanted some other rare shows, or some that wanted concerts they were in attendance for released, etc.

I can only recall ONE person who was not satisfied with Brussels 1973, except for the people who still haven't downloaded it, and didn't realise that it was the 2nd show that they release. So I think you are wrong there.

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I just put the 3 Hampton boot CDs I have together in the set list order of the official boot and the only track missing is YCAGWYW.

Good grief, this one can't be the one that Under My Thumb was used for on Still Life - it's HORRIBLE! Bill's bum notes, Mick coming in with the enthusiasm of a 89 year old yawn. Nothing like the Still Life version. Charlie sounds good though.

Ehem, Under My Thumb comes from East Rutherford Nov 5th on Still Life

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The Rolling Stones
The Rolling Stones are releasing another bootleg, remixed and remastered by Bob Clearmountain: Hampton Coliseum (Live 1981). It's out now to American fans on Google Android [tinyurl.com]. Everyone else, an announcement with release details will follow imminently. This is the artwork.



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Great cover. It's my newest screensaver!

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Has Bill been airbrushed again?

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Everybody here, me included, who is somewhat disappointed in Hampton 1981 was absolutely satisfied with both Brussels and Fort Worth. So there's no need to try twisting this into the lame "people here are never satisfied". That's just BS.

Brussels and Fort Worth was stunning. And Hampton is also stunning. But the trouble is that I/we have allready been "stunned" by the bootleg. Is that so hard to grasp?

But of course I'll be downloading this official Hampton release as well, since it has better stereo seperation.

Everybody was not satisfied with Brussels Affair. Many complaints about that as well. The reception wasn't quite as hostile as what Hampton is getting, but I still saw MANY complaints. I think when somebody says "people here are never satisfied" they don't mean that YOU as a person, or that person right over there are never satisfied, but that you simply can't please everybody in this community. Even if they released every really rare show that a majority of people want, there would probably be some that wanted Hampton, or some that wanted some other rare shows, or some that wanted concerts they were in attendance for released, etc.

I can only recall ONE person who was not satisfied with Brussels 1973, except for the people who still haven't downloaded it, and didn't realise that it was the 2nd show that they release. So I think you are wrong there.

YOU can only recall one person, so I am wrong. That's funny.

Some of the complaints:

No physical release
The Bootleg is better, should have released that performance
Keith and Mick's guitars are on the wrong channel
Mick's guitar isn't loud enough
Too much saxophone
Too much drum compression

Those are just the ones I remember reading, there were probably many more. The one about the bootleg performance being better is kind of funny, because many of the complaints about Hampton is that it's been available as a boot. So you can't please everybody. It's just a numbers thing, you get a large group of people and they're all going to have different wants. Don't take it as an insult, it's just reality.