[Vinnie Paul Dies at age 54]


The Texas-born musician Vinnie Paul had formed Pantera in 1981 with his brother “Dimebag” Darrell Abbott.
Photograph: Will Ireland/Future/REX/Shutterstock

I should not say that but among the "big 3" (Metallica Slayer Pantera) Pantera was easily the worst band.
And now the compulsory cliché comment : "now Vinnie can jam with his brother Dime, dude!".

There is no such thing as “the big 3”.
There’s the big 4 of thrash metal (Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth & Anthrax).
Pantera was a different, slowed down, kind of metal.

Vinnie Paul was a brilliant, very influential metal drummer.
The problem with Pantera, besides their fascist frontman, was that only the first half of their albums was great. Rarely a great song after song #6.

Anyway... Vinnie RIP... alongside Dimebag a massive force of early 90s metal.
I really enjoyed that.



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BowieStone
There is no such thing as “the big 3”.
There’s the big 4 of thrash metal (Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth & Anthrax).
Pantera was a different, slowed down, kind of metal.

Vinnie Paul was a brilliant, very influential metal drummer.
The problem with Pantera, besides their fascist frontman, was that only the first half of their albums were great. Rarely a great song after song #6.

Anyway... Vinnie RIP... alongside Dimebag a massive force of early 90s metal.
I really enjoyed that.

yes I was trying to figure out what the "big 3" was and why pantera was mentioned.


as far as the bands albums I somewhat disagree. CFH and VDOP are pretty solid start to finish. FBD to me is the bands most uneven release. first 4 songs are brilliant and then there are only 3 more great songs spread out over the next 8 songs. TGSTK is my favorite release by them. the bands final album RTS imo is very solid

The Great Southern Trendkill has indeed a great song in the second half of the album (Floods). But besides that, also that album loses quality in the second half IMO.

Almost impossible to imagine what he went through losing his brother the way he did...
RIP

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dcba
I should not say that but among the "big 3" (Metallica Slayer Pantera) Pantera was easily the worst band.

Firmly disagree... Where Pantera ranks among the "big 3" you mention is arbitrary and depends on individual tastes. Those 3 bands should arguably be tied at no. 1 (they've all released their share of both brilliant as well as "filler" songs). At least Pantera had the decency to gradually improve over time (their first 4 albums are an acquired taste, but by Cowboys from Hell they'd truly developed their own style; and I love their last album, more so than all of the others before it).

Pantera wrote some truly great songs and they were highly respected by the very peers that influenced them (Black Sabbath, Van Halen, Kiss, etc.). They were even respected by non-metal artists (Madonna played the A New Level riff on guitar on one of her tours). Their Far Beyond Driven album hit #1 on Billboard when it was released...

And, getting back to Vinnie Paul, he had a truly unique sound and technique, his drumming on Far Beyond Drumming is especially stand-out.

Glad to see people here show some love for this kind of music.
Vulgar display of power is a great record.

I saw him with Pantera as support act for Judas Priest in 1991 and for a 2nd time with Hellyeah in a good show as support act for Stone Sour few years ago.

RIP Vinnie Paul

Sad. Never got to see Pantera, but CFH and VDOP are both metal classics.

Who would have thought that Phil Anselmo would outlive the Abbott brothers given his past heroin addiction?

Great drummer. Great loss

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BowieStone
There is no such thing as “the big 3”.

I wrote "big 3" willingly as I don't consider Megadeth worthy of an inclusion in any metal pantheon.

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dcba

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BowieStone
There is no such thing as “the big 3”.

I wrote "big 3" willingly as I don't consider Megadeth worthy of an inclusion in any metal pantheon.

that statement makes things worse not better

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dcba

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BowieStone
There is no such thing as “the big 3”.

I wrote "big 3" willingly as I don't consider Megadeth worthy of an inclusion in any metal pantheon.

The first 4 Megadeth albums put them at the top of the genre for me.

The "big four" of thrash metal has always been Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax. It was based on album sales more than anything.

Pantera started out as a glam band before changing to "groove/thrash" metal. For better or worse, Anselmo's vocal attack is still what most metal singers use to this day.

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Kurt
Almost impossible to imagine what he went through losing his brother the way he did...
RIP

I totally agree..if that doesn't make you a candidate for PTSD I don't know what does...

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Kurt
Almost impossible to imagine what he went through losing his brother the way he did...
RIP

I totally agree..if that doesn't make you a candidate for PTSD I don't know what does...

Dime's murder haunted me for a few days after it happened. I go to a lot of club shows and the idea of witnessing something like that chilled me to the bone, let alone seeing a family member murdered in cold blood.