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Good point here! Does anybody hear 'It's just that demon life has got you in its sway' in Sway?
I always here 'FORGOT you' and no matter how much I try, I just can't hear 'HAS GOT you'

I hear " 'as"



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Maybe it's "wotcher in its sway"..!

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After all this years I am not able to accept they sing a lot sentences which allegedly are sung. For instance in Brown Sugar "You should have heard him just around midnight" and many more...
Some sentences are sung (to my ears) as if their mouths where full of cookies as they sing...

Just out of curiosity, what do you hear during those lines on Brown Sugar?

On the second verse, it's exactly that, albeit with the "should have" abbreviated to "shoulda":

"House boy knows that he's doing alright /
You shoulda heard him just around midnight"

On the third verse, however, the "him" changes to "me". The narrator is talking about himself: "I'm no schoolboy..."

Hi Topi
I speak spanish. I think I have a reasonable level in english. But definitely I lack of a proficiency level at it. When they sing "You shoulda heard him just around midnight" I just hear as if they sang a long, bizarre and unique line.
Sometimes I am amazed about how is posible to say so many words in such a short time...


The problem of spanish speaking people is that we ONLY have 5 vocalic sounds. Only five...
And english may have more than 15 (depending on the country, as far as I know). So for us is crazy to differentiate sometimes. (beer, bear, bare, beard, bird ...are a linguistic nightmare...).



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Oh, gotcha. I do speak Spanish myself, but I never thought of that!

Qué tal Topi,

Si hablas español y los has entendido siempre a la primera...es que debes tener un nivelón de inglés. Me alegro por tí.

Por cierto no debemos ser muchos los hispano parlantes que visitamos esta página...

Me alegra saludarte. Un cordial saludo.

Probablemente hay al menos algunos argentinos aquí!

Me encantan los idiomas extranjeros. De hecho, he empezado a estudiar español porque ya hablaba francés. Soy de Finlandia, y inglés fue mi primer idioma extranjero.



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Ustedes están locos si creen que está bien publicar en español aquí.

Aún así, a mí me gusta la variedad, así que no me quejo.

Esperando con ansias la nueva gira de los Rolling Stones.

¡Seguir adelante!

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Yeah, let's go back to English. From now on, I'll use "wotcher" to greet every IORRian. lol

This is my favourite version:



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Double Door, Chicago

YEAH .... aint it good ....

Mick lookin' like Christ on thee cross
Keith doin da best ballet ever performed in Chicago ...



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Topi
Yeah, let's go back to English. From now on, I'll use "wotcher" to greet every IORRian. lol

Ere mate, wotcha! 'Ow you doin' in the stalls darn there!

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Topi
Yeah, let's go back to English. From now on, I'll use "wotcher" to greet every IORRian. lol

¡Míralo!

Does anyone know definitely which guitar Brian plays. And isn't there maracas and what sounds like a mellotron blues harp that he might have played. JJFlash would have sounded better if there were more separation between the instruments

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Does anyone know definitely which guitar Brian plays. And isn't there maracas and what sounds like a mellotron blues harp that he might have played. JJFlash would have sounded better if there were more separation between the instruments

I think it's easy to just assume that the two guitars are both Keith, as it fits his usual methods and the complimenting parts are what he tends to do, but if you take the brief film clip of the NME show into account, I can believe that Brian could be playing the right channel guitar as it fits with his hand movement. Always thought that the high part in the bridge was Brian too, as he usually did those parts ('Get Off My Cloud', 'Mother's Little Helper' etc).

Personally I think the messiness of the mix is an important part of the appeal, but to each their own.

I wonder where the original master tapes are. They would answer a lot of questions.

I would like to know if there is a definitive answer as to whether Brian played guitar on the studio version of JJ Flash and whether it is audible on the single. Or if he did not, is he playing the maracas and/or what sounds like a blues harp mellotron at the end of the song. Could his guitar be the jangly single note one. I was wondering if Mathijs has the answer

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I would like to know if there is a definitive answer as to whether Brian played guitar on the studio version of JJ Flash and whether it is audible on the single. Or if he did not, is he playing the maracas and/or what sounds like a blues harp mellotron at the end of the song. Could his guitar be the jangly single note one. I was wondering if Mathijs has the answer

Try the JJF Track Talk on IORR Forum Links of Interest.

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I am 100% certain that he appeared on the picture sleeve...and looked pretty damn cool in the promo film.

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I don't think Brian had a major contribution to the song. What is vexing is knowing whether Bill, or Nicky played that really jazzy organ part that ends the song. The credits list both as playing organ. I thinks it one of the coolest parts ever, and has never been replicated on stage. If Nicky played the well known part, I can't hear what Bill's organ part would have been. I can't hear it. It makes sense that Nicky would have played it, as he was a great keyboardist, at least a great pianist. But Bill has always been underestimated as a musician. He played piano growing up, and played some snyth with the Stones.

My guess is the high stuff during the chorus.

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My guess is the high stuff during the chorus.

Didn’t Brian do the guitar high notes / lead lines in Get off my cloud? If so, you’re probably right.

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MingSubu
My guess is the high stuff during the chorus.

Keith claimed he played a Nashville strung guitar on JJF. If there indeed is one, it's gotta be that one?

100% Nicky on Hammond organ at the end. In the long version available on bootlegs is quite clear.

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"I'm gonna walk... before they make me run"

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My guess is the high stuff during the chorus.

Keith claimed he played a Nashville strung guitar on JJF. If there indeed is one, it's gotta be that one?

Why wasn’t the high stuff and Nickys organ played at the Rock n Roll Circus.Personally I don’t like Keith’s guitar or Micks singing on it, particularly Micks singing at the end where I think he ruins the song with his campy repeating of the words” Jumping Jack”.

He wrote the riff on the piano with Bill

It was in the early or mid 80ies, when someone told me, that Jumping Jack died. I asked "Jumping Jack?" and then I was told, that there was an old man, who lived around Keith's corner near Chichester in the South of England. He talked a lot about the old times, like we all do and so parts of the song like "...I was raised by a toothless, bearded hag, I was schooled with straps right across my back..." might be part of his history and well remembered by KR. Maybe this was the first idea for the lyrics. True or false, for me, this was a very nice story.

This is just like the best thing ever.
One of those Best Thing EVER PERFECT Things
That are Best Thing Ever because Perfect.
It defines what rock and roll is and can be.
You could take a hundred great albums by the VERY best blues, rockabilly, rock and roll and even R&B and I'd trade that all for this one.
Mono Single Release is the most psychedelic thing I ever heard . Pow

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Jjf live 69


Jjf Mono Single Release
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