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Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: March 11, 2018 13:59

Just curious. Anyone know?

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: March 11, 2018 14:53

January 1964.



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Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: March 11, 2018 14:59

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Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: March 11, 2018 18:44

Thanks Deltics, but what I was really looking to know was when did the switch from Richard to Richards occurr. "Hot Stuff," released in June 1976, is credited to Jagger-Richard. "Miss You," released in May, 1978, is credited to Jagger-Richards. So I guess that just leaves Love You Live. Anyone have an original vinyl pressing and care to take a look at it and tell me if it says Richard or Richards?

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: March 11, 2018 19:50

Love You Live was "Richard". From "Some Girls" on he was always "Richards".
Oddly, the US edition of "Metamorphosis" from 1975 is Jagger - Richards whereas the UK was the "old" Jagger - Richard.
He's also referred to as "Richards" on the inner sleeves of "Exile" and "It's Only Rock and Roll" but as Richard on the labels.


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Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: March 11, 2018 20:54

I wonder what happennd to Pakkamak Music Publishers?
Perhaps part of the ABKCO copyrights.

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: 1963luca0 ()
Date: March 12, 2018 07:46

ALO abbandoned Pakkamak long before Klein arrived.
It's almost impossible to get info on Pakkamak, anyway.
Bye,



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Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: March 12, 2018 12:17

Just to recap - why did he change his name?

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Date: March 12, 2018 12:41

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Silver Dagger
Just to recap - why did he change his name?

because of Cliff, if memory serves..

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: March 12, 2018 12:45

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1963luca0
ALO abbandoned Pakkamak long before Klein arrived.
It's almost impossible to get info on Pakkamak, anyway.
Bye,

I'm sure you're right.
But someone must own the Copyright.
ALO perhaps? (and the other early ones)

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: 1963luca0 ()
Date: March 12, 2018 14:40

Hard to say, as he used Pakkamak for minor releases and more than four of five times. IMO, a small and cheap company. Amyway, you're driving the thread O.T.
what about starting a new thread on copyright controllers?

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: March 12, 2018 16:24

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DandelionPowderman
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Silver Dagger
Just to recap - why did he change his name?

because of Cliff, if memory serves..

Yeah, I recall reading it was Oldham's idea, to make it sound more 'poppish' or something (similarly PR-wise their ages were changed, claiming, for example, Mick and Keith being born in 1944, etc.). So I guess the reference of 'poppish' at the time was Cliff Richard... I also recall that Keith wasn't particularly happy about it at the time...

- Doxa

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: March 12, 2018 17:28

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Doxa
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Silver Dagger
Just to recap - why did he change his name?

because of Cliff, if memory serves..

Yeah, I recall reading it was Oldham's idea, to make it sound more 'poppish' or something (similarly PR-wise their ages were changed, claiming, for example, Mick and Keith being born in 1944, etc.). So I guess the reference of 'poppish' at the time was Cliff Richard... I also recall that Keith wasn't particularly happy about it at the time...

- Doxa

At least it was a minor change...not like Perks to Wyman!!

Re: Last appearance of "Richard" and first appearance of "Richards" on a record label?
Date: March 12, 2018 21:05

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jlowe
Quote
Doxa
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Silver Dagger
Just to recap - why did he change his name?

because of Cliff, if memory serves..

Yeah, I recall reading it was Oldham's idea, to make it sound more 'poppish' or something (similarly PR-wise their ages were changed, claiming, for example, Mick and Keith being born in 1944, etc.). So I guess the reference of 'poppish' at the time was Cliff Richard... I also recall that Keith wasn't particularly happy about it at the time...

- Doxa

At least it was a minor change...not like Perks to Wyman!!

That was Bill's choice, wasn't it?



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