Well, in my initial post I never said the Stones were bad in 81-82, just that they were playing better and with more fire at least on this 78 show. It is just an opinion and my other opinion is these dvds are great(brought back so much) but for any fan that never saw the Stones prior to 89, you can watch all the video you want but what you'll never know....you'll NEVER know.(through no fault of your own!!)

Just seen it tonight !

I agreed with Scottkeef and Edward Twining comments.
I recall how some YEARS ago , the 1978 US Tour hasn't been mentionned so often in the well known reviews Worldwide and was a kind of underrated one. Now times they are a changin', the 1978 US tour seems to be the Tour that you couldn't miss, the promo machine is on the way, and it's really cool.
This DVD is a killin' indeed, maybe the best video ever with a fantastic Team named The ROLLING STONES, at this time they were not only a BAND , they were a Team that no one could beat.
It's also the first time but I should be wrong , that I see on a video Keith so clearly with his bottleneck on "Happy".



On the press release letter included in the liner notes, one could see also that they have planned to play at least one concert in UK, France and Germany. Too bad they never did

HMN

FINALLY watched the DVD, just got it today, and it is excellent.
I don't think it compares to Ladies & Gentleman, but I only say that as I've seen some posts that say this is best ever and I don't agree with that.

With that said, energy to spare, Fantastic vocals, and love Wyman on Miss You.

It's great. That's a given. But something sounds strange. The BluRay I got has three different sound options. PCM Stereo, Dolby 5.1 and DTS HD Audio (Or something to that effect). In the cinema the sound was amazing, but when I hear it here at home it's either a weird echo on Mick's voice (PCM Stereo), too loud audience (DTS HD Audio) or, again, the weird echo on Mick's voice (Dolby 5.1, though to a lesser extent). It's bareable on the Dolby sound, but it seems strange with the other two. Maybe I need to adjust my settings. It's weird though. Ladies & Gentlemen, The Biggest Bang, Four Flicks and Gimme Shelter all sound great.

JumpingKentFlash

>.... mmmmm ya gotta question them 75 shots ....

It's the '78 tour book -- obviously the then-current tour could only have photos from the preceding tour. My '81 tour book has photos from the '78 tour.

aaaaah watched it last night - they blew my household out of the water yet again -
what a hot show! and what an excellent job cleaning up the audio and footage

that Love In Vain is beautiful! and Happy! and the rescue of Shattered is a joy to behold
among miles of other joys. thanks and praises, Rolling Stones! thanks and praises

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They looked and sounded like a unit, working together. A four-headed monster.

smile: Justin's just checking if anyone's paying attention, eh?
five-headed at a minimum, and seven-headed with Mac and Stu

i love the Rolling Stones

I haven't read all the posts on this thread.........but I wanted to post my impression of the new dvd.

I was actually pleasantly surprised. Sort of a surprise how much the filming techniques had changed since '72. On Ladies and Gentlemen the camera was on Mick for like 90% of the film. There's alot more of the rest of the band in the '78 dvd than in the '72 dvd. As far as the performance, I thought they were great. I've always regarded the '78 Fort Worth performance as a really charged, rocking show but rather sloppy. Watching the dvd, I was struck at how were the then new Some Girls material was. They ripped through those songs with power and purpose. The war horses were starting to sound alot like......well....war horses. They were still good though, especially "Brown Sugar."

Overall, I loved it. It got me excited. Gave me that rare feeling of euphoria that only great music can.

I saw the two Anaheim shows in '78; they were rank but uneven. I thought the '81 shows that I saw, Seattle and San Francisco, were actually better than '78.

Love the show and love the music.
When I saw it in the cinema, I thought the pictures were excellent.
Watching my DVD I quite often see interference in the images.
I wonder if I missed this in the cinema or that I just have a bad copy.
Anyone else ?

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It's funny - you can almost see the modern / Vegas era stones in this film.

I have to say that I'm a little underwhelmed with this DVD, I think I prefer the early MT era stones more now - and I was quite a fan of the SG album and later stuff, now I'm not so sure.

Also I notice that there is very heavy dynamic compression in the audio mastering. Makes it quite unpleasant to listen to - in fact it sounds a lot like SAL.

i just watched it. nice sunday morning treat. my opinions:

i am only 30 and have seen the stones 2 times, '97 and '05. they have always been my favorite band, my dad is a huge fan and has seen them about 6 times from 1981-now. i am blown away by this show. its what rock n roll is all about. the somewhat sloppy backing vocals, the sometimes missed cues on the new tunes, the energy. its exactly what the stones lack now. just the 5 guys and 2 keyboard players. its a shame mick probably can't carry a show by himself vocally anymore like that

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It's funny - you can almost see the modern / Vegas era stones in this film.

I have to say that I'm a little underwhelmed with this DVD, I think I prefer the early MT era stones more now - and I was quite a fan of the SG album and later stuff, now I'm not so sure.

Also I notice that there is very heavy dynamic compression in the audio mastering. Makes it quite unpleasant to listen to - in fact it sounds a lot like SAL.

Which version do you have? Sounds amazing on my Blu Ray.

I think you're right in being a little "underwhelmed" since this concert was hyped like mad by the guys on this forum (and others) as being "the best concert ever". So much so that you couldn't help but be a bit disappointed.

I took everything said with a pinch of salt so I'm happy out with this film.

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It's funny - you can almost see the modern / Vegas era stones in this film.

I have to say that I'm a little underwhelmed with this DVD, I think I prefer the early MT era stones more now - and I was quite a fan of the SG album and later stuff, now I'm not so sure.

Also I notice that there is very heavy dynamic compression in the audio mastering. Makes it quite unpleasant to listen to - in fact it sounds a lot like SAL.

R

Which version do you have? Sounds amazing on my Blu Ray.

I think you're right in being a little "underwhelmed" since this concert was hyped like mad by the guys on this forum (and others) as being "the best concert ever". So much so that you couldn't help but be a bit disappointed.

I took everything said with a pinch of salt so I'm happy out with this film.

DVD/NTSC. Audio on both the CD anc DVD is (to me) similar to SAL. Compare "All Down The Line" in both. Both very compressed. Now compare with Brussels' version. Ok, with Brussels there will be compression but somehow this concert is lot more easier on the ear.



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The best DVD the Stones have ever put out, imo. Simply awesome!

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...in fact it sounds a lot like SAL.

Not the band. I don't know what band showed up for SAL other than the 'we only do it for money' Stones...

People moaning about the sound of the Some Girls DVD are the sort who'd say 'ta' if you gave them a million! Never satisfied. Mark my words, within 5 years our DVD boots will be coasters as we'll have it all in perfect quality!

Love the DVD.

On the interview included, Mick discussed how "focused" the band was on the new SGs tunes.
Great energy, playing and singing, I thought.

Eric, I admire your deferral of immediate gratification.

Some Girls was released as a 78 rpm? Do the 78 discs come in the big box version with the book?

After listening to Handsome Girls and just seeing pictures and clips here and there of '78, its really cool to see it all put together finally. I have a new appreciation for a show that I've listened to for years.



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.... mmmmm ya gotta question them 75 shots ....

Might have been used at the time to market the 78 tour?

That's exactly it. I saw an ad ( can't remember where right now, perhaps in that music magazine review someone posted earlier today) that did indeed refer to these sets coming with a miniature tour program from 78.

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Just finished watching it in glorious 5.1 surround sound. Beautiful. The DVD is simply unbelievable. Something like this shelved for 30 years? Blasphemous. The band is on all cylinders and I gotta say while Mick is just a complete maniac throughout the show, Charlie steals the show for me. His playing is top notch. Ronnie is right up front in the mix and he captures your ear on every solo he takes.

All in all...it puts a smile on your face.

AMEN TO THAT! A GREAT DVD, I didn't know that they had shows filmed in this quality. Wow, I was totally blown away when I saw it! And Ronnie and Keith is more equal in the sound mix. GREAT!

whoa. finally getting to see it. halfway through. so potent. saw em 78 philly
stadium and passaic theatre but nothing like this in the old memory banks. good
argument to be made that this is their peak, even without the brilliance of MT and
the levitating audiences of 72.

damn! and NoComment was finally just about getting adjusted to 2011...

whoa. keith richards. whoa.



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best thing we ever seen.

putting it back in its box, never watching it again.

maybe on the deathbed.

no way to enjoy 2011 after watching this. love rihanna's records, for what they
are, but already knew she sucks live. she sucks live 10 times worse now.

gee thanks.

gonna drink heavily now, wipe out the memory.

some girls texas?

never seen it. any good?



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I personally feel people that don't appreciate the power and 'ragged but right" genre of the pre 1989 "Its a Rolling Stones Production" concerts (other than the No Security tour-that was a nice retro style show) don't really get what the band was really about at that time..

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Well, I just finished watching it.I was there at the concert and it was even better than I remember it! Two things that jump out at me.How much better the Stones were playing than the tour 3 years later and I really miss them. I realize maybe they need the "Rolling Stones Company" to perform now(its been 30+years after all) but this is what I miss, Just the band and a couple or so side guys. Ron and Keith supplying whatever b/u vocals there are...but THE STONES, raunchy with warts and all!.Not meant to start an argument, just one person's thought but this makes me feel sad for anyone that didnt get to see these guys live prior to 82. This is whats its all about!

I totally agree with you, especially about Keith and Ron doing the backing vocals. It is/was a great show and exactly how the Stones need to play. But... no need to be sad. I've seen em play lots of times on every tour starting in 81, and the best show by far was the opening of the Voodoo Lounge tour in DC. It was a spiritual experience. Both guitars were awesome, sound mix perfect. They made some mistakes but it didn't matter because it was rock and roll and they played. All the backup was just that, backup.

Well I have a different take on this show. Terrible. Keith and Charlie were excellent but the rest was just terrible. Don't intend to sound all high and mighty, but when I hear Ronnie play it reminds me of when I was learning to play guitar. The man can't muster a melodic solo anymore. Just about every other note was sharp or flat and watching him he seems to be so proud of his mediocrity. His haircut is his biggest asset to The Stones. The only instrument I can listen to Ronnie play is pedal steel, and even that was lackluster here. The violin on Far Away Eyes was nice. The few glimpses of Ian were great, and his piano was nice too.

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Well I have a different take on this show. Terrible. Keith and Charlie were excellent but the rest was just terrible. Don't intend to sound all high and mighty, but when I hear Ronnie play it reminds me of when I was learning to play guitar. The man can't muster a melodic solo anymore. Just about every other note was sharp or flat and watching him he seems to be so proud of his mediocrity. His haircut is his biggest asset to The Stones. The only instrument I can listen to Ronnie play is pedal steel, and even that was lackluster here. The violin on Far Away Eyes was nice. The few glimpses of Ian were great, and his piano was nice too.

Mick and Bill were terrible ? Hmmm....thought they were in topform...

"Much better too than the Stones 81-82 world tour, which shared many of the same elements, but was more sloppily executed"

Imho it's "a bit worse too than the Stones 81-82 world tour, which shared many of the same elements, but was more sophisticatedly executed".

The first few shows of 81 were sax-less and it quickly dawned on the band on the band that it didn't work. The guitars+vocals formula was either too raw or too reminiscent of 78. And overall the 78 tour worked because it lasted only for a few weeks. "Zeitgeist" as thet say...

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Well I have a different take on this show. Terrible. Keith and Charlie were excellent but the rest was just terrible. Don't intend to sound all high and mighty, but when I hear Ronnie play it reminds me of when I was learning to play guitar. The man can't muster a melodic solo anymore. Just about every other note was sharp or flat and watching him he seems to be so proud of his mediocrity. His haircut is his biggest asset to The Stones. The only instrument I can listen to Ronnie play is pedal steel, and even that was lackluster here. The violin on Far Away Eyes was nice. The few glimpses of Ian were great, and his piano was nice too.

Mick and Bill were terrible ? Hmmm....thought they were in topform...

Well, I'm not an authority, just a fan. I should say that I didn't have any problems with Bill, but Mick didn't sound good to my ears.

To all of those that enjoyed it, I am jealous. You're truly lucky.