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Hairball
Wouldn't performing a setlist that consists of old songs - 95% of which were recorded recorded over 35 years ago - be considered resting on their laurels?
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MisterDDDD
"Resting on it's laurels" describes bands that don't tour to packed houses wherever and whenever they play, who don't release acclaimed grammy nominated albums within the last several years, who don't have a fanatic fan base that spans generations (and very active fan-sites), who have set the bar so high for other bands,it may never be reachable, who set $$ records with each tour, who aren't still The Worlds Greatest Rock and Roll Band!
You know, bands like that.
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MisterDDDD
"Resting on it's laurels" describes bands that don't tour to packed houses wherever and whenever they play, who don't release acclaimed grammy nominated albums within the last several years, who don't have a fanatic fan base that spans generations (and very active fan-sites), who have set the bar so high for other bands,it may never be reachable, who set $$ records with each tour, who aren't still The Worlds Greatest Rock and Roll Band!
You know, bands like that.
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Hairball
Wouldn't performing a setlist that consists of old songs - 95% of which were recorded recorded over 35 years ago - be considered resting on their laurels?
I'll play devil's advocate and say not really.
It's more a case of letting the jaded masses decide what they play.
I would bet IORRians think of the Stones more often and more constantly than even the Stones themselves.
Most fans don't dwell on every moment of every concert; for many, a Stones concert is an occasion rather than an obsession, a reminder of an earlier, more care-free time in life.
So on a message board like this, where even isolated tracks of lesser known songs are discussed, it very quickly becomes a treadmill and it's easy to get bored.
It's one thing to see a Broadway show, but if you follow the same show night after night, the repetition of the production can fill you with contempt.
Most fans as well haven't been charting Keith's supposed decline in playing ability. They're just delighted that after all these years the members can show up on stage and the fans can hear a true enough semblance, for example, Gimme Shelter, of what they heard all those years ago.
If you were Mick or Keith, would you do it any differently?
They've already done their thing. Any new songs they may bring forth are not exactly going to take the world by storm and radically alter the musical or cultural landscape.
And besides, when you've got fans paying such rates to see them, you want them keeping the concessions attendants busy, not the restroom attendants.
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35love
Oh Hairball, sell more of whatever it is you do/make,
save the money, just buy a golldarn frontest row you can ticket for an England show, and if you somehow have a spare *sob
It’s been too long since your last show (Desert Trip, I know)
Oh, Vegas, Vegas,
you saw the last public RS show in the United States.
I guess my point:
I think you and I both know it will be lucky goddddam buggers
who get to have a last summer of Stones in UK!!
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MisterDDDD
While you were arriving at your leisure, settling for cheap seats a quarter mile away and posting food reviews at Desert trip, I was lining up in the AM and running for the pit in 100+ degree heat.
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MisterDDDD
at least be honest when you try to minimize all their recent tours, grammy nominated recordings, et al.
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Stoneage
They are resting on their laurels. Of course. So did Frank Sinatra and BB King also. I guess it's only natural when you have a career spanning over 55 years.
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Stoneage
They are resting on their laurels. Of course. So did Frank Sinatra and BB King also. I guess it's only natural when you have a career spanning over 55 years.
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Hairball
Of course 35love I'll watch all the shows via periscope/facebook just as I did most, if not all of the No Filter shows.
It was fun to watch/hear them start out slow and messy, and gradually hit their stride throughout the recent mini-tour.
I've always thought Paris 2 was the best, and part of that reasoning might have been because I knew you were there.
While I was at the same San Diego opening show as you during Zip Code which I know you loved, I wish you would have seen them during the 50 and Counting with the grand return of Mick Taylor.
For me, those were among the highlihgts of all Stones shows I've seen. And Licks was the last great truly tour imo mixing it up with the club/theare/arena/stadium scenario - definitely still pushing the envelope with that format. Every show after Licks was kind of like watching them in slow motion - especially the last couple of tours. Where Mick used to be a non-stop out-of-control spastic dancing machine, now there's only hints of it. While Keith used to prowl around front and center and the whole stage, now he's sort of subdued mostly lurking in the background. Ronnie still seems the same, yet more focused and actually playing better. Charlie will always be good - the engine that keeps it moving. And for the record, I did enjoy the Stones at Desert Trip 2 immensely (much better than wkd.1), but they were not the best band either of those weekends - not even close imo.
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Cristiano Radtke
"This band is different, though. Anyone who doesn’t understand the ongoing allure of the Rolling Stones is either being deliberately difficult or failing to see the greatness still in our midst. Sometimes we take legends for granted. But anyone who thinks the Stones rest on their laurels clearly hasn’t stood beneath the giant yellow tongues that occupy the video screens before they come on."
Yes!
Nice article, thanks for sharing, 35love.
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Stoneage
Sure, Dandelion. They are still performing and making an effort. But my point is that they are resting their setlists on songs 40 years old or more. Which is quite understandable.
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Stoneage
Sure, Dandelion. They are still performing and making an effort. But my point is that they are resting their setlists on songs 40 years old or more. Which is quite understandable.
Yep, but resting on one's laurels is about being content, and not bothering to make any effort anymore.
It's not as easy as saying «they don't take chances», because they do - every day, at this age. They even bother to try out songs they haven't played since 1973 in front of 90.000 people. Looks like making an effort to me
In this context, resting on their laurels would be not to play at all, knowing that lots of ££££ will drip into their accounts anyhow..