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not true. He pretty much only attends L'Wren's show these days. That's 2x a year in New York.
Mick certainly seems to think so!
That is nonsense.
Consider the source, this is not even the dumbest statement that poster has made.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-18 06:58 by Max'sKansasCity.
yes, mouth harp too, and no, its not, that if mick really chose to blend in,
that he couldnt do it, more or less. but then we would get that mick-is-
carrying-keith accusation all over again and that must not be a part of this 50th
celebration.
some people seem afraid that keith and ronnie and taylor can't come come up
with something cool and interesting, without jagger holding their hands.
but NoComment thinks they can and must in order to make this 50th thing legit,
and not just an extension of the mick jagger show.
results are not assured, you're right. this drama is real. but if keith and
ronnie and taylor can find hot "grooves, jams etc." with a verse or chorus
or title here and there, we're guessing jagger comes in later to finish thing up.
we're trying to be optimistic. we're trying to imagine something that does not
involve keith and taylor merely co-existing for commercial reasons, but actually
re-awakening each other creatively. if we r stupid to be thinking in such a
hopeful manner, so be it.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-18 14:14 by nocomment.
I agree. ABB would have been much better trimmed to ten songs.
...it would be even better trimmed to two songs.
same sentiment here. and for exactly the same reason. ever since the golden
age, stones fans have been in perfect agreement that they only really
like 73.7% of the album cuts. they just don't agree of which 73.7%
that is in part what "shattered" is about, the stones' listening public
fragmenting to an extent that made it impossible to stay in touch with
every fan on every single track. "til the next time we say goodbye" is
partially about this too.
It is nonsense. Jagger and Richards write the lyrics and melodies of all the Stones songs. Without this collaboration, there would be no Stones. I have taken a lot of trash from people on this message board, and I can dish it out too. That is about the most stupid thing I have ever read.
so you didnt like the results on exile? where jagger largely absented himself
until keith and company had finished doing their thing.
hmm, thanks, can see your point. nobody thinks very much of exile, do they?
only stupid people.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
Rip This
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Date: November 17, 2011 16:54
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orsonQuote
andrea66
but where is mick now while the other 3 are playing?
probable at a fashion show
not true. He pretty much only attends L'Wren's show these days. That's 2x a year in New York.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
James Kirk
()
Date: November 17, 2011 20:58
Was there really any doubt that the Stones were going to turn their back on the billion dollar money maker that a 50th anniversary will bring them? 2012 will easily be the biggest Stones year since their massive "comeback"in 1989 with the Steel Wheels album and tour.
By this time next year even we will be tired of hearing about the Rolling Stones.
By this time next year even we will be tired of hearing about the Rolling Stones.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
stonescrow
()
Date: November 17, 2011 21:12
Quote
James Kirk
Was there really any doubt that the Stones were going to turn their back on the billion dollar money maker that a 50th anniversary will bring them? 2012 will easily be the biggest Stones year since their massive "comeback"in 1989 with the Steel Wheels album and tour.
By this time next year even we will be tired of hearing about the Rolling Stones.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: November 18, 2011 05:24
Quote
James Kirk
Was there really any doubt that the Stones were going to turn their back on the billion dollar money maker that a 50th anniversary will bring them? 2012 will easily be the biggest Stones year since their massive "comeback"in 1989 with the Steel Wheels album and tour.
By this time next year even we will be tired of hearing about the Rolling Stones.
Mick certainly seems to think so!
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: November 18, 2011 05:35
NOTHING would be better than if Mick Jagger did NOT turn up for this
jam session. Nothing would give this 50th thing more credibility than
for Jagger's forward-looking mentality to be locked out while this collective
of rearward-looking musicians, including Taylor and Wyman, cook up some
fresh stew. Jagger should wait til the others are more or less done before
tacking on his vocals. This particular album must be led by the musicians,
not the frontman, or else just forget about it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-18 05:36 by nocomment.
jam session. Nothing would give this 50th thing more credibility than
for Jagger's forward-looking mentality to be locked out while this collective
of rearward-looking musicians, including Taylor and Wyman, cook up some
fresh stew. Jagger should wait til the others are more or less done before
tacking on his vocals. This particular album must be led by the musicians,
not the frontman, or else just forget about it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-18 05:36 by nocomment.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: November 18, 2011 06:06
Quote
nocomment
NOTHING would be better than if Mick Jagger did NOT turn up for this
jam session. Nothing would give this 50th thing more credibility than
for Jagger's forward-looking mentality to be locked out while this collective
of rearward-looking musicians, including Taylor and Wyman, cook up some
fresh stew. Jagger should wait til the others are more or less done before
tacking on his vocals. This particular album must be led by the musicians,
not the frontman, or else just forget about it.
That is nonsense.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
Max'sKansasCity
()
Date: November 18, 2011 06:40
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
nocomment
NOTHING would be better than if Mick Jagger did NOT turn up for this
jam session. Nothing would give this 50th thing more credibility than
for Jagger's forward-looking mentality to be locked out while this collective
of rearward-looking musicians, including Taylor and Wyman, cook up some
fresh stew. Jagger should wait til the others are more or less done before
tacking on his vocals. This particular album must be led by the musicians,
not the frontman, or else just forget about it.
That is nonsense.
Consider the source, this is not even the dumbest statement that poster has made.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-18 06:58 by Max'sKansasCity.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: November 18, 2011 08:04
of course Mick Jagger is a musician and a damn fine one, but we made the
distinction "for this particular album" because as fine a musician as he
is, he is the wrong musician for this project...
the essence of exile is the guitars of keith and taylor
the essence of some girls is the guitars of keith and ronnie
the essence of bigger bang is the guitars of keith and jagger
the essence of this particular version of the stones must be the guitars of
keith and ronnie and taylor. jagger must stick to mouth, or he will ruin
any chance this beat-up old fighter plane has for taking off. he will
pollute the purposefully retro air with j-lo will-i-am vibes, pinching
off everybody else's air...
if jagger wants to play guitar and write music, he should go play with his
superheavy friends for awhile, and give the old blues guys a chance to get their
shit together.
distinction "for this particular album" because as fine a musician as he
is, he is the wrong musician for this project...
the essence of exile is the guitars of keith and taylor
the essence of some girls is the guitars of keith and ronnie
the essence of bigger bang is the guitars of keith and jagger
the essence of this particular version of the stones must be the guitars of
keith and ronnie and taylor. jagger must stick to mouth, or he will ruin
any chance this beat-up old fighter plane has for taking off. he will
pollute the purposefully retro air with j-lo will-i-am vibes, pinching
off everybody else's air...
if jagger wants to play guitar and write music, he should go play with his
superheavy friends for awhile, and give the old blues guys a chance to get their
shit together.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
doubledoor
()
Date: November 18, 2011 09:06
This is Keith's invite, thus Keith's party. Mick Jagger has the presence to take over almost any music party, but Keith is one of the few who is not going to be overwhelmed by the presence of MJ. Charlie, M Taylor, and Wyman, are also among those few. His Rolling Stones credentials don't seem to impress them as much as others for some reason. At the same time, who could fill his shoes at the microphone? No one. To say MJ is the wrong musician for a project involving the musicians of the Rolling Stones, is well beyond insanity.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: November 18, 2011 09:22
how many times must it be repeated?
didnt say he was the wrong vocalist
said he was the wrong guitarist and music composer for this particular project
like with most of exile and dirty work
didnt say he was the wrong vocalist
said he was the wrong guitarist and music composer for this particular project
like with most of exile and dirty work
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
doubledoor
()
Date: November 18, 2011 09:51
Say it again.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
straycatuk
()
Date: November 18, 2011 11:33
Mick should at the very least play harp. Do you really think he's gonna make the next Stones album sound like Superheavy ?
sc uk
sc uk
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: November 18, 2011 12:31
Quote
straycatuk
Mick should at the very least play harp. Do you really think he's gonna make the next Stones album sound like Superheavy ?
yes, mouth harp too, and no, its not, that if mick really chose to blend in,
that he couldnt do it, more or less. but then we would get that mick-is-
carrying-keith accusation all over again and that must not be a part of this 50th
celebration.
some people seem afraid that keith and ronnie and taylor can't come come up
with something cool and interesting, without jagger holding their hands.
but NoComment thinks they can and must in order to make this 50th thing legit,
and not just an extension of the mick jagger show.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: November 18, 2011 13:00
when it comes right down to it, NoComment is simply voicing the wish you all
have in your hearts, even if your heads have given up on it. that the 50th
be about the MUSIC and not just an arbitrary amount of tiks and tocks...
for real MUSIC to happen, all the players have to come to the fore, and
for that to happen, the currently strongest may have to make himself
scarce for a little while...
at least you must admit its one possible scenario.
have in your hearts, even if your heads have given up on it. that the 50th
be about the MUSIC and not just an arbitrary amount of tiks and tocks...
for real MUSIC to happen, all the players have to come to the fore, and
for that to happen, the currently strongest may have to make himself
scarce for a little while...
at least you must admit its one possible scenario.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
straycatuk
()
Date: November 18, 2011 13:16
For better of worse, Mick has been the driving force since Steel Wheels.......................................I just can't see him backing off now.
The guitar players can make wonderful grooves,jams etc. but whos gonna turn them into finished songs ?
I can just imagine Ronnie and MT asking Keith what he has........BLANK STARES all around !
or maybe I'm wrong . It's been known
sc uk
The guitar players can make wonderful grooves,jams etc. but whos gonna turn them into finished songs ?
I can just imagine Ronnie and MT asking Keith what he has........BLANK STARES all around !
or maybe I'm wrong . It's been known
sc uk
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: November 18, 2011 13:28
Quote
straycatuk
For better of worse, Mick has been the driving force since Steel Wheels.......................................I just can't see him backing off now.
The guitar players can make wonderful grooves,jams etc. but whos gonna turn them into finished songs ?
I can just imagine Ronnie and MT asking Keith what he has........BLANK STARES all around !
results are not assured, you're right. this drama is real. but if keith and
ronnie and taylor can find hot "grooves, jams etc." with a verse or chorus
or title here and there, we're guessing jagger comes in later to finish thing up.
we're trying to be optimistic. we're trying to imagine something that does not
involve keith and taylor merely co-existing for commercial reasons, but actually
re-awakening each other creatively. if we r stupid to be thinking in such a
hopeful manner, so be it.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2011-11-18 14:14 by nocomment.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
straycatuk
()
Date: November 18, 2011 14:13
We probably are been stupid,but for all the right reasons.
To be honest my whole perception of what the Stones will do re 50th anniversary has been turned on it's head in the last 48 hrs.
ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN - and it's ALL good.
sc uk
To be honest my whole perception of what the Stones will do re 50th anniversary has been turned on it's head in the last 48 hrs.
ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN - and it's ALL good.
sc uk
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
proudmary
()
Date: November 18, 2011 14:59
To say MJ is the wrong musician for a project involving the musicians of the Rolling Stones, is well beyond insanity.
Absolutely!
"he was the wrong guitarist and music composer for this particular project
like with most of exile"
WTF???
Absolutely!
"he was the wrong guitarist and music composer for this particular project
like with most of exile"
WTF???
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
SweetThing
()
Date: November 18, 2011 15:48
I'm not particularly worried about Jagger coming up with trendy ideas or similar...sometimes those ideas are good. And in the event they aren't so great, if these are played by Taylor/Richards/Woods/Watt/Wyman (I know its hoping for alot here), then the songs will sound alright. It won't sound like Superheavy etc...
And, not to open up a can of worms, but in a perfect world, I would hope Jagger engages Taylor's "assistance" let's say, in working through a couple of numbers.
It will raise the bar for Jagger's vocals - even if he either chooses, or has no choice, but to go nasal on us. It will give Jagger more options, and probably Taylor as well.
The magic was back with PMS - it's rather obvious (to me at least). [For those that thought it was Ron Wood playing, and a bunch more that thought the same thing about TOPs, not to worry - you're on record as not being able to tell the difference anyway]
I'd also hope they tap Ronnie Wood to make more contributions as well. Let him write a few songs already!!
Well, even if this doesn't all come to pass, thanks to Richards it seems clear we'll be spared Jeff Beck, Waddy etc.. as first option. Hopefully Jagger feels the same way.
It'd be great if they go out with the equivalent of a double album.
And, not to open up a can of worms, but in a perfect world, I would hope Jagger engages Taylor's "assistance" let's say, in working through a couple of numbers.
It will raise the bar for Jagger's vocals - even if he either chooses, or has no choice, but to go nasal on us. It will give Jagger more options, and probably Taylor as well.
The magic was back with PMS - it's rather obvious (to me at least). [For those that thought it was Ron Wood playing, and a bunch more that thought the same thing about TOPs, not to worry - you're on record as not being able to tell the difference anyway]
I'd also hope they tap Ronnie Wood to make more contributions as well. Let him write a few songs already!!
Well, even if this doesn't all come to pass, thanks to Richards it seems clear we'll be spared Jeff Beck, Waddy etc.. as first option. Hopefully Jagger feels the same way.
It'd be great if they go out with the equivalent of a double album.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
straycatuk
()
Date: November 18, 2011 20:36
Their last 3 albums have been almost as long as Exile. I'd rather have 10 quality tracks over 40 mins. Why does everyone want to fill cds with "filler" ?
sc uk
sc uk
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
stonescrow
()
Date: November 18, 2011 21:01
Quote
straycatuk
Their last 3 albums have been almost as long as Exile. I'd rather have 10 quality tracks over 40 mins. Why does everyone want to fill cds with "filler" ?
sc uk
I agree. ABB would have been much better trimmed to ten songs.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: November 18, 2011 22:09
Quote
stonescrowQuote
straycatuk
Their last 3 albums have been almost as long as Exile. I'd rather have 10 quality tracks over 40 mins. Why does everyone want to fill cds with "filler" ?
sc uk
I agree. ABB would have been much better trimmed to ten songs.
...it would be even better trimmed to two songs.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
Witness
()
Date: November 18, 2011 22:29
Almost any time tracks are nominated in these threads to be cut off, with the apparent ambition to «improve» an album, numbers I fancy, tend to be among them. Consequently, I disagree.
Apart from that, I take the opposite view, I am so pleased and thankful for any track in addition I can obtain that this wonderful band finds good enough and suited.
Apart from that, I take the opposite view, I am so pleased and thankful for any track in addition I can obtain that this wonderful band finds good enough and suited.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
()
Date: November 18, 2011 22:30
Nice post Witness
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Keep On Rolling
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Keep On Rolling
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
beepee
()
Date: November 18, 2011 22:38
So where in London is that ?
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
mickijaggeroo
()
Date: November 19, 2011 01:08
For all non believers, and infidels, this is for you:
Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings
Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
rogue
()
Date: November 19, 2011 05:42
I hope they make a DVD if MT and BW show up. Jagger can show up and try to mumble along like he does on the Montreux rehearsal footage from 1972.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: November 19, 2011 08:51
Quote
Witness
Almost any time tracks are nominated in these threads to be cut off, with the apparent ambition to «improve» an album, numbers I fancy, tend to be among them. Consequently, I disagree.
Apart from that, I take the opposite view, I am so pleased and thankful for any track in addition I can obtain that this wonderful band finds good enough and suited.
same sentiment here. and for exactly the same reason. ever since the golden
age, stones fans have been in perfect agreement that they only really
like 73.7% of the album cuts. they just don't agree of which 73.7%
that is in part what "shattered" is about, the stones' listening public
fragmenting to an extent that made it impossible to stay in touch with
every fan on every single track. "til the next time we say goodbye" is
partially about this too.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
flilflam
()
Date: November 19, 2011 16:03
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
nocomment
NOTHING would be better than if Mick Jagger did NOT turn up for this
jam session. Nothing would give this 50th thing more credibility than
for Jagger's forward-looking mentality to be locked out while this collective
of rearward-looking musicians, including Taylor and Wyman, cook up some
fresh stew. Jagger should wait til the others are more or less done before
tacking on his vocals. This particular album must be led by the musicians,
not the frontman, or else just forget about it.
That is nonsense.
It is nonsense. Jagger and Richards write the lyrics and melodies of all the Stones songs. Without this collaboration, there would be no Stones. I have taken a lot of trash from people on this message board, and I can dish it out too. That is about the most stupid thing I have ever read.
Re: Stones to jam in studio this month
Posted by:
nocomment
()
Date: November 19, 2011 16:08
Quote
flilflamQuote
treaclefingersQuote
nocomment
This particular album must be led by the musicians,
not the frontman, or else just forget about it.
That is nonsense.
It is nonsense. Jagger and Richards write the lyrics and melodies of all the Stones songs. Without this collaboration, there would be no Stones. I have taken a lot of trash from people on this message board, and I can dish it out too. That is about the most stupid thing I have ever read.
so you didnt like the results on exile? where jagger largely absented himself
until keith and company had finished doing their thing.
hmm, thanks, can see your point. nobody thinks very much of exile, do they?
only stupid people.
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