This whole story is totally freak..

50 years man vs 13 years girl...no word, and the end of the relation, and Mandy's illness was terryfing...

In addition to this.. if I'm not wrong, Bill's son had a relation with Mandy's mom, isnt it?

What i said totally freak..

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Stray Cat Blues came out in 1968. The RS never made a secret of their taste, in terms of that song. It has never been banned, no one ever condemned it on the basis of pedophilia, real or imagined.

Watch 'Blow Up'. The wannabe models looked distinctly underage, and no one ever said the film lacked plausibility.

The girls who throw themselves at rock stars and star photographers are not shy little flowers.

Oh BOY. Really.

Yeah dude its their fault. If a 13 years old hit on my by all means. Are you freaking kidding. This is internet ignorance at its best.

I wonder what had the biggest negative impact on society, Bill shagging a (willing) underage girl, or Keith glorifying hard drugs?



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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

And in his bio Bill recalls hitting with a young (under 18?) fan after a show in Sweden going back to her room and making love to her... The room was in her parents' house who found all this perfectly normal.
This happened in 1965... So I guess ppl who are shocked by the Mandy "scandal" are hypocrites or puritans.

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Stray Cat Blues came out in 1968. The RS never made a secret of their taste, in terms of that song. It has never been banned, no one ever condemned it on the basis of pedophilia, real or imagined.

Watch 'Blow Up'. The wannabe models looked distinctly underage, and no one ever said the film lacked plausibility.

The girls who throw themselves at rock stars and star photographers are not shy little flowers.

Oh BOY. Really.

Yeah dude its their fault. If a 13 years old hit on my by all means. Are you freaking kidding. This is internet ignorance at its best.

I am not a dude.

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And in his bio Bill recalls hitting with a young (under 18?) fan after a show in Sweden going back to her room and making love to her... The room was in her parents' house who found all this perfectly normal.
This happened in 1965... So I guess ppl who are shocked by the Mandy "scandal" are hypocrites or puritans.

Parental consent is not a reason - some parents aren't fit. And this was well past 1965, didn't it happen around 1980?

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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.



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I wonder what had the biggest negative impact on society, Bill shagging a (willing) underage girl, or Keith glorifying hard drugs?

Well, the biggest negative impact on the girls or boys targetted by the abuser is them. So for me, that is what is important and that is what is being discussed.

Keith abusing his own body is of no interest to me. Bill or anyone else doing children is of very negative interest to me.

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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

Well, there is icky, which you are, and criminal, which is what Bill is.

All about choices.

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This post is becomming a confesion to scum.

You think it's wrong to have sex with someone under 18?

Damn, I think I've logged into The Osmonds forum by mistake...

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This post is becomming a confesion to scum.

You think it's wrong to have sex with someone under 18?

Damn, I think I've logged into The Osmonds forum by mistake...

Legally, probably VERY wrong to break the law on this issue, but that age statute varies by jurisdiction. Easier to just not go there...it's not like there are no 'hot' 18 year olds that you could restrict yourself to, just in the interests of 'self-preservation'.

Regardless of that, I don't think there can be any argument made, for what we know nowadays, that 13 is off limits. Any arguments 'for' are most probably being made by pedophiles.

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This post is becomming a confesion to scum.

You think it's wrong to have sex with someone under 18?

Damn, I think I've logged into The Osmonds forum by mistake...

Legally, probably VERY wrong to break the law on this issue, but that age statute varies by jurisdiction. Easier to just not go there...it's not like there are no 'hot' 18 year olds that you could restrict yourself to, just in the interests of 'self-preservation'.

Regardless of that, I don't think there can be any argument made, for what we know nowadays, that 13 is off limits. Any arguments 'for' are most probably being made by pedophiles.

As I said, the legal limit in the UK is still 16. My argument is that it's perfectly OK for a man to shag consential 16 & 17 year olds... both female & male.

Incidentally, the Devon Wilson comments about Mick and STRAY CAT BLUES—posted above—I read in the book below. It's a good, literate biography.

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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

LOL. Yeah the Americans are the ones that are wrong because they think its wrong for 40 year old men to have sex with high school girls..Give me a break. Freaking Euros.

I personally wouldn't have a moral issue with beating the ever loving @#$%& out of a 40 years old who touched my 17 year old daughter.



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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

LOL. Yeah the Americans are the ones that are wrong because they think its wrong for 40 year old men to have sex with high school girls..Give me a break. Freaking Euros.

I personally woulnd't have a moral with beating the ever loving @#$%& out of a 40 years old who touched my 17 year old daughter.

...and of course in less than a year she can marry Hugh Hefner in America.

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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

LOL. Yeah the Americans are the ones that are wrong because they think its wrong for 40 year old men to have sex with high school girls..Give me a break. Freaking Euros.

I personally woulnd't have a moral with beating the ever loving @#$%& out of a 40 years old who touched my 17 year old daughter.

...and of course in less than a year she can marry Hugh Hefner in America.

Well, there is gross, and there is illegal.

Did Bill's wives last names become "Perks" or "Wyman" after they married?



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It's obviously dubious to cross certain lines, but two things amuse me in this area:

1) Men who've admiringly appraised teen girls...and then they have daughters of their own, when suddenly such appraising is horrendous! Nothing like having a daughter to alter a man's moral compass....

2) Those middle-aged women who act outraged at the idea of older men being attracted to teen girls...and their outrage is obviously at the fact that they're past their prime and the teen girls are just entering theirs. As H.G. Wells's said, "Moral outrage is jealousy with a halo."

Look, all men can be dogs, that is a fact of life. But exercising self control is within everyone's reach.

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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

LOL. Yeah the Americans are the ones that are wrong because they think its wrong for 40 year old men to have sex with high school girls..Give me a break. Freaking Euros.

I personally woulnd't have a moral with beating the ever loving @#$%& out of a 40 years old who touched my 17 year old daughter.

...and of course in less than a year she can marry Hugh Hefner in America.

So what. Where do you draw the line. If you make the age 8 and a 40 years old messes with a 7 years old, then of course you would say yeah but in a year she could marry Hugh Hefner. Is that a defense?

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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

LOL. Yeah the Americans are the ones that are wrong because they think its wrong for 40 year old men to have sex with high school girls..Give me a break. Freaking Euros.

I personally woulnd't have a moral with beating the ever loving @#$%& out of a 40 years old who touched my 17 year old daughter.

...and of course in less than a year she can marry Hugh Hefner in America.

So what. Where do you draw the line. If you make the age 8 and a 40 years old messes with a 7 years old, then of course you would say yeah but in a year she could marry Hugh Hefner. Is that a defense?

That was my point..... where do you draw the line? I was not offering an opinion.

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It's obviously dubious to cross certain lines, but two things amuse me in this area:

1) Men who've admiringly appraised teen girls...and then they have daughters of their own, when suddenly such appraising is horrendous! Nothing like having a daughter to alter a man's moral compass....

2) Those middle-aged women who act outraged at the idea of older men being attracted to teen girls...and their outrage is obviously at the fact that they're past their prime and the teen girls are just entering theirs. As H.G. Wells's said, "Moral outrage is jealousy with a halo."

I wonder how Bill is dealing with this, now that his 3 daughters are in their teens. We haven't seen any of them in the media, unlike other Stones' children and grandchildren.

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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

LOL. Yeah the Americans are the ones that are wrong because they think its wrong for 40 year old men to have sex with high school girls..Give me a break. Freaking Euros.

I personally wouldn't have a moral issue with beating the ever loving @#$%& out of a 40 years old who touched my 17 year old daughter.

Americans still go to school at 17? Where I live most of the women have 2 or 3 kids by then.

Interesting.



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if I do have sex with an underage girl, I'm blamin it on this thread

Ahhhhhhh so... that's why 21stcentury is always droppin' over the border inta Mekeeeeco ....



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"Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo"

Being a pedo means you put your penis into someone who's 5 3 or 10. Afaik Bill didn't do this... And I guess you're American cos in Europe sexual majority is FIFTEEN (could be 13 in some Northern places).

And acc. to your reckoning being 18 is the strict limit? So if you sleep with a girl who's 17 and 364 days old you're a pedo. Wait for another day to do the evil deed with her and things are normal? Yeah right...

Even in the UK the legal age is 16, & indeed it was fully legal & generally deemed acceptable for a bird to get her tits out in national newspapers up until the law was changed in 2004... changed to bring things in line with more prudish American standards because they were (technically) viewing child porn when seeing photos of Sam Fox topless in 'The Sun'...

Progress, eh?

I personally wouldn't have any moral issues with shagging someone over 16, & indeed I was lucky enough to have a fling with a rather lovely 17 year old about 5 years ago when I was in my early 40s.

LOL. Yeah the Americans are the ones that are wrong because they think its wrong for 40 year old men to have sex with high school girls..Give me a break. Freaking Euros.

I personally wouldn't have a moral issue with beating the ever loving @#$%& out of a 40 years old who touched my 17 year old daughter.

Americans still go to school at 17? Where I live most of the women have 2 or 3 kids by then.

And so that's working really well where you live by the sounds of it....single mother welfare society.