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More Hot Rocks
Didn't Elvis do it too? He got away with it also.
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brianwalker
Because it happend during a different time. Same with Elvis and Lewis. None of them would get away with it today.
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punkfloyd
So in the 80s Charlie was a junkie and Bill was rockin' the cradle.[www.dailymail.co.uk] No wonder the band took some time off in that decade.
Anyway, I had sort of forgotten all about the Mandy Smith thing. Why do you think the world pretty much gave Bill a pass for...you know...having sex with a 14 year old?
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Happy Jack
I doubt Bill Wyman is the first, or the last, rock star to have sex with underage girls. Lets look at something for a minute: when the Rolling Stones and the Beatles were on tour in the mid 60's their audience was primarily 12-15 year old girls. Do you honestly think they stopped to check ID when a girl came back stage? Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying our heroes are pedophiles, but I think its naive to bring two or three people out and say they had affairs with young girls when circumstances would probably suggest otherwise.
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Happy Jack
I doubt Bill Wyman is the first, or the last, rock star to have sex with underage girls. Lets look at something for a minute: when the Rolling Stones and the Beatles were on tour in the mid 60's their audience was primarily 12-15 year old girls. Do you honestly think they stopped to check ID when a girl came back stage? Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying our heroes are pedophiles, but I think its naive to bring two or three people out and say they had affairs with young girls when circumstances would probably suggest otherwise.
I can't stand this type of argument. Whats youyr point? I hate it when someone excuses something by bringing up the fact that someone else did it. Are you honestly saying that Wyman at 50 shouldn't be knocked about this because the Beatles might have done it when they were 20. Wyman should be knocked big time for this, he is a pedo, and now if you want to talk about the Beatles thats another thread.
By the way Smith now feels she was abused by Wyman.
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LeonidP
We weren't discussing jerry lee lewis ... and wasn't she 13 when Bill began dating her? It's funny, in Bill's book, he claims that he thought she was 21. Yeah, right.
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Send It To me
it's only rock n' roll
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Bliss
Mandy presented herself as an 18 year old, in terms of the way she dressed, and also the way she was out in public, available to Bill. Her mother, who later married Bill"s son, also colluded in the arrangement. So I do not think of him as a predatory pedophile.
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Bliss
Mandy presented herself as an 18 year old, in terms of the way she dressed, and also the way she was out in public, available to Bill. Her mother, who later married Bill"s son, also colluded in the arrangement. So I do not think of him as a predatory pedophile.
He knew she was 14.
It doesn't matter one bit what her Mother thought of it. Are you seriously saying that if a 50 year old man can find a 13 year old whos Mother doesn't care then anything is fair game? he can just say well her Mother didn't care.
If you want to start a thread about her skills as a Mother we can, but this thread is about Wyman.
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LeonidP
We weren't discussing jerry lee lewis ... and wasn't she 13 when Bill began dating her? It's funny, in Bill's book, he claims that he thought she was 21. Yeah, right.
To be fair she looked a lot older than 13.
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Bliss
Mandy presented herself as an 18 year old, in terms of the way she dressed, and also the way she was out in public, available to Bill. Her mother, who later married Bill"s son, also colluded in the arrangement. So I do not think of him as a predatory pedophile.
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Braincaperswiki says "paedophilia is defined as a psychiatric disorder...typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children"Quote
Bliss
Mandy presented herself as an 18 year old, in terms of the way she dressed, and also the way she was out in public, available to Bill. Her mother, who later married Bill"s son, also colluded in the arrangement. So I do not think of him as a predatory pedophile.
I'm no expert but I think a paedo would be interested in a 14 yr old who looked her age or younger. Bill fancied a 14 year old who looked older so I wouldn't call him a paedophile.
However, while paedophiles are driven to these acts a non paedo who has sex with a 14 yr isn't compelled he makes a choice. Which is at least is just as bad. In this case if Bill knew her age and still had sex with her, regardless of what the mother thought, he was a sex offender who should have ben prosecuted (and probably the mother too which is why she didn't cooperate with the police).