For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
daspyknows
Just grabbed 2 at the Frost. Great venue
Quote
DGA35Quote
treaclefingersQuote
DGA35
Robert Plant and Allison Krauss will be touring this summer, a 28 city North American tour, including Aug 13 and 14 in Vancouver. Sure are lots of tours being announced lately!
Wow, at the Queen E. That'll be awesome. I saw Plant there, must have been over 10 years ago, was that the Band of Joy tour? I can't recall exactly, only that it was a really good show.
Too young to have seen Zeppelin, although my older brother saw them in 71 at the Coliseum, said it was jam packed, even the aisles were jammed with people crowding them!
Did see Plant/Page when they came to Vancouver in the mid 90s which was a good show. Don't think I want to see this tour, even if they do play a few Zeppelin songs.
Quote
MadMax
Why are a lot of today's Rock docus ending just when the fun and the best parts of their careers are starting???? This one ends right after LZ II is released, omitting the great IV, Prescence and the extremely underrated In Through The Outdoor. The same with Oasis' Supersonic, ends before the Be Here Now-period.
Hopefully there'll be parts 2 of both
Quote
MadMax
Why are a lot of today's Rock docus ending just when the fun and the best parts of their careers are starting???? This one ends right after LZ II is released, omitting the great IV, Prescence and the extremely underrated In Through The Outdoor. The same with Oasis' Supersonic, ends before the Be Here Now-period.
Hopefully there'll be parts 2 of both
Quote
RollingFreakQuote
MadMax
Why are a lot of today's Rock docus ending just when the fun and the best parts of their careers are starting???? This one ends right after LZ II is released, omitting the great IV, Prescence and the extremely underrated In Through The Outdoor. The same with Oasis' Supersonic, ends before the Be Here Now-period.
Hopefully there'll be parts 2 of both
Oh wow, are you serious? Now that you say it, I guess that makes sense with the "Becoming" Led Zeppelin, but I haven't followed it close enough that I had no idea about that. I think sometimes it works. With the Stones, how much of note is there really left to talk about after 1981? Same with Oasis, the first two albums is really the PEAK. Sure there's more, but I get that's what a lot of people want. With this? I was so sure this was a full career decade doc. No idea nothing from IV was included, that does feel a bit cheap.
Quote
mosthigh
Thought it was an ok doc. Most of the footage is from the 2003 Live DVD, although there are a few rare unearthed clips as well. The interviews were decent and the lead-up to forming Zeppelin was cohesive enough, but there are too many useless montages recycling footage and songs. It also ends rather abruptly.
Quote
RollingFreakQuote
mosthigh
Thought it was an ok doc. Most of the footage is from the 2003 Live DVD, although there are a few rare unearthed clips as well. The interviews were decent and the lead-up to forming Zeppelin was cohesive enough, but there are too many useless montages recycling footage and songs. It also ends rather abruptly.
I would agree with this. Overall, I did enjoy it, but it did just make me want to dig out the 2003 DVD. Kinda covers it all.
The good: I thought the interviews were fantastic. They did a great job getting the early information out of the 3 surviving members, and Bonham was incorporated in very smoothly. Also, their showing reactions to some stuff was great. Bonham's love for them and seeing their faces was very moving. I thought the first half up until the first full performance was excellent. Oddly, enough the most boring parts to me of these docs are the lead up to the real thing, and I thought they did a great job with that here. Fascinating to see everything they had done pre-Zeppelin (I knew it all mostly, but they told the story in a very compelling way) so that when you finally get Zeppelin's first performance it feels very earned. You are jonesing for it. People applauded in my theater after the first performance.
The bad: it kinda goes downhill for me after that first performance. It feels good, but it was limiting in two ways. They clearly just don't have much video of early Zeppelin (funny in contrast to pre Zeppelin when they dug up so much stuff. You'd think there'd be nothing THERE), and then by limiting it to the first two albums there just didn't seem like enough to sustain the rest of the doc. The first half that was very story driven then became, as mentioned, montage and just playing songs for the second half. It was cool to hear that stuff in a theater, but the fact that it was mostly recycled footage just being repeated got a bit lazy for me, and if you didn't have the video you didn't HAVE to play full songs IMO. Again, I enjoyed the whole thing, but it just feels like they ran out of stuff in the second half. I also thought the song they chose from Royal Albert was an odd way to end. Kind of anti climatic. I don't want to spoil, but I'd have chosen a different song.
Overall, solid and I do recommend. My criticisms are only in now that we finally have this, and it feels like a very clear Part 1 (which I'd love Parts 2 and 3), I'd have just tightened it up a bit. They actually did a really good job containing it to the first year or so of the band. They did so much in just a year as Jimmy says at the end. It felt good to focus so heavily on that stuff. But since that was the case, I'd have certainly made it 90 minutes than 2 hours. You could have cut like 30 minutes of just pure songs and recycled footage in that second half IMO. But overall, I do think they did a great job and I'm happy this exists. It was so nice to see them all so complimentary to each other. They really were all experts at their craft, and so young, and I'm glad that's on full display here. As always, I wish Jimmy didn't essentially just disappear post Zeppelin, but I get it. He really did give EVERYTHING to that band and this was his life's calling. After it, he was spent. Oh, it was also a very sanitized doc in terms of groupies and stuff, which I thought was fine but its funny how much they side stepped groupie and drug wise. Its for the best but still haha.
Quote
GasLightStreet
There's an aspect of anything post-1979 or whenever that was unearthed probably has happened. As with The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, only so much can be shown that is "new". In regard to a timeline, a story, ok, obviously whatever footage will be used.
Presentation is the key and that might get lost in regard to what you've stated. But for perhaps a lot of people that don't know? As interesting as it could be.
Quote
RollingFreakQuote
GasLightStreet
There's an aspect of anything post-1979 or whenever that was unearthed probably has happened. As with The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, only so much can be shown that is "new". In regard to a timeline, a story, ok, obviously whatever footage will be used.
Presentation is the key and that might get lost in regard to what you've stated. But for perhaps a lot of people that don't know? As interesting as it could be.
I think what was slightly disappointing to me was the first half was actually so good and so well told. Yeah I knew most of the story, but not all of it, and they told it in a very compelling way. They had so many great photos, and they made any lack of video work. Then the second half felt like a crutch with the limited video they had. It felt like they HAD to play the songs people wanted (and so many of them in full), either because they felt like they had to fill the time (only covered the first two albums) or because they thought people would demand it. Whereas I'd have been ok with less full songs and more clips/photos and behind the scenes stories, being told in a similar fashion to the first half. To me it was brilliantly done till it got a little bit more lazy, which was odd. Cause usually the first half is what you'd breeze through. Felt like the second half should have been fleshed out with more stories and pics, or just cut in half if there wasn't enough there. Or, while I understood the ending with Royal Albert Hall cause that was "making it" on their home turf, an arugment could have been made that they included LZIII which could have ended with them being pre-stadium level. Led Zep 4 really seems like when they went to another level and I get that that's for a different movie.
Overall, I do still really recommend though. Its a great look into their early years and its amazing what they banged out in such little time.