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Of course its nothing earth shattering: its Zeppelin. 8 more minutes of Jimmy Page masturbating to, what are we calling them now, "past glories"? At least he's being up front about it I guess.

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And I'm negative.

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And I'm negative.

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Robert Plant playing Seattle in June with Lucinda Williams opening. Nice double bill, might have to go to that one.

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Nothing negative about that, just stating the fact that he plays five Zeppelin tunes while at the same time he says he's focused primarily on his solo career which seems a bit hypocritical.
Imagine Mick Jagger playing some solo concerts where he performed reworked versions of Gimme Shelter, Honky Tonk Woman, Satisfaction, Street Fighting Man, and Jumping Jack Flash (to randomly name five).
Would it really be considered a full on Jagger solo show based solely on his solo career? No, it would it be a show that's partially a tribute to his past glories with the Rolling Stones.

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So I guess a Clapton show really isn't a Clapton show because you might get 4 or 5 songs he did with Cream, Blind Faith, Derek and the Dominos or John Mayall?

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To be fair, he played three songs from his latest album and three more from the one prior...six songs released in the last three years is a decent nod to his solo career, IMHO.

Its fun going around in circles here ain't it? You both nailed it.

Yes RollinFreak, they both made valid points. Plant plays solo tunes indeed, but he also plays Zeppelin tunes.
He tries to downplay his work with Zeppelin as a thing of the past and says 'who wants to relive all that'? But here he is playing five Led Zeppelin tunes!
Surely you can see the contradiction? Or maybe you can't....

I'll respond once and elaborate on their point even though you obviously won't agree with it, yet keep trying to push your agenda (the way I and we are doing ours) as if at some point you'll hit on something none of us thought of:

He would OBVIOUSLY play Zeppelin during his solo sets. The same way Clapton does, the same way Jagger would. You get hung up on him downplaying Zeppelin as a thing of the past. That BAND is a thing of the past, the songs are not. He knows what they mean to people and thats why he plays them HIS way at his own shows, in radically different arrangements. The way he plays them with Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones under the guise of Led Zeppelin (or under any guise with any combination of those guys) brings pressures and expectations that are not there for his solo shows. That is why he doesn't do that. Because when he plays with them he has to, consciously or not, revert back to a man from the 1970s that he no longer is. That doesn't have to happen when he does solo shows and plays Zeppelin songs, again as he should.

I know it gets contentious and sarcastic from me, but I truly don't get why thats so difficult to understand. And I get how everything isn't a right or wrong sort of thing but I'm sorry this topic really is. History shows that on VERY few occasions these guys have ever gotten together to play and as they age it gets less likely. AND Robert has had to be clear about it because people (I won't say like you but just... people) then come to expect more when he gives an inch. So he has to be forceful and clear. Him being in Led Zeppelin or playing songs with those guys is a thing of the past. Him PLAYING Led Zeppelin songs is not. Is there a chance it could happen? Yes, of course, there's a chance of anything. But its so extremely unlikely, whether you want to believe it or not, that it (I think of course) is reasonable to get annoyed that it keeps getting brought up. If it does happen, great. But for now, there's no idea of that in sight, Jimmy has said as much, so to continually harp on it (the way I do with Jimmy's solo album, even though again history shows I'm more right than wrong on that topic, despite the fact that I wish I wasn't) is quite silly.

There. I don't know what else to say. Thats just the truth, its not meant to sound condescending or pompous or angry towards you. I'm sorry, but on this topic your argument is flawed and mine is based on a more realistic truth. Thats the nicest way I can say it. You've repeatedly refused to have an adult discussion about it (hence the sarcastic remarks that are now my trademark) and thats all the mature discussion I plan to have on this topic.

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Congratulations! This is one of the most spot-on things I've ever read on Plant. Eloquent and well-informed!!!

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Congratulations! This is one of the most spot-on things I've ever read on Plant. Eloquent and well-informed!!!

EXCELLENT interview with the guy and seems like nothing but a wonderful man even though he has to play the bad guy. Thats not easy. Interview even uses your favorite word Hairball "past glories" which I can't in any way make up lol. If that coincidence doesn't prove we should be together I don't know what does:

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Robert has aged badly - at least he looks that way on the Dan Rather promo.

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Robert has aged badly - at least he looks that way on the Dan Rather promo.

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Congratulations! This is one of the most spot-on things I've ever read on Plant. Eloquent and well-informed!!!

EXCELLENT interview with the guy and seems like nothing but a wonderful man even though he has to play the bad guy. Thats not easy. Interview even uses your favorite word Hairball "past glories" which I can't in any way make up lol. If that coincidence doesn't prove we should be together I don't know what does:

[www.esquire.com]

Cheers RollingFreak.

The interviewer is a slight douche - he should know by now that mentioning Led Zeppelin and reunion in the same sentence is forbidden territory.

“I have to ask, because my editors would kill me if I didn't: Do you ever see going back to do the big gig?”

Blaming it on the editors...interviewer has now evolved from a slight douche to a giant douche.

If I had the chance to talk to Robert, I would first thank him for providing a huge part of the soundtrack of my life throughout the '70's. I would then mention the noble road he's on pursuing his solo career, and that I do enjoy much of what he's released over the years, and that I've attended several of his shows. I would then ask - very politely of course- about the many Zeppelin songs he plays during his solo concerts, and if he feels that even that might be living in the past just a little bit. I'm sure I've read his explanations in the past - (paraphrase) "they're great songs that I've reworked and the fans expect at least some of them...and I enjoy playing them as they are a part of my history, so why not?". Fair enough Robert. I would then continue to wind down this road sidestepping the term 'Led Zeppelin' completely, and ask how it was working with Jimmy putting the 50th anniversary book together. Was it joyful? Painful? Bittersweet? All of the above? Asking him about any other releases for the 50th anniversary, I would then tred softly and remind him of his quote:

"But as for what I’ll be doing in five years time, I haven't got the answer. I haven't got a clue".

Seeing this is an opening of the door to future possibilities, I would ask if this means that there is a possibility of ever working with Jimmy Page and/or John Paul Jones again in any musical capacity (still not mentioning Led Zeppelin!)- whether co-writing a tune, recording a tune, performing a single show, etc., etc. etc. I have a feeling his answer would be:

"NEVER SAY NEVER".

He would then recite the lyrics to Ramble On as the interview ends and as he strolls out the door and out of sight.

"Leaves are falling all around, It's time I was on my way.
Thanks to you, I'm much obliged for such a pleasant stay.
But now it's time for me to go. The autumn moon lights my way.
For now I smell the rain, and with it pain, and it's headed my way.
Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do...


Ramble On, And now's the time, the time is now, to sing my song.
I'm goin' 'round the world, I got to find my girl, on my way.
I've been this way ten years to the day, Ramble On,
Gotta find the queen of all my dreams.

Got no time to for spreadin' roots, The time has come to be gone.
And to' our health we drank a thousand times, it's time to ramble On..."

Adios Robert, until we meet again.


Next up, I would interview Jimmy Page. The one and only question I would ask is "For crying out loud Jimmy, where's the damn solo album"?!!!!
His reply: "I've been working on it in between re-releasing the Zeppelin catalogue multiple times over the years...it's coming along smoothly and will be fantastic, just you wait and see".

I shake my head in disbelief and sadly walk away....

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Congratulations! This is one of the most spot-on things I've ever read on Plant. Eloquent and well-informed!!!

EXCELLENT interview with the guy and seems like nothing but a wonderful man even though he has to play the bad guy. Thats not easy. Interview even uses your favorite word Hairball "past glories" which I can't in any way make up lol. If that coincidence doesn't prove we should be together I don't know what does:

[www.esquire.com]

Cheers RollingFreak.

The interviewer is a slight douche - he should know by now that mentioning Led Zeppelin and reunion in the same sentence is forbidden territory.

“I have to ask, because my editors would kill me if I didn't: Do you ever see going back to do the big gig?”

Blaming it on the editors...interviewer has now evolved from a slight douche to a giant douche.

If I had the chance to talk to Robert, I would first thank him for providing a huge part of the soundtrack of my life throughout the '70's. I would then mention the noble road he's on pursuing his solo career, and that I do enjoy much of what he's released over the years, and that I've attended several of his shows. I would then ask - very politely of course- about the many Zeppelin songs he plays during his solo concerts, and if he feels that even that might be living in the past just a little bit. I'm sure I've read his explanations in the past - (paraphrase) "they're great songs that I've reworked and the fans expect at least some of them...and I enjoy playing them as they are a part of my history, so why not?". Fair enough Robert. I would then continue to wind down this road sidestepping the term 'Led Zeppelin' completely, and ask how it was working with Jimmy putting the 50th anniversary book together. Was it joyful? Painful? Bittersweet? All of the above? Asking him about any other releases for the 50th anniversary, I would then tred softly and remind him of his quote:

"But as for what I’ll be doing in five years time, I haven't got the answer. I haven't got a clue".

Seeing this is an opening of the door to future possibilities, I would ask if this means that there is a possibility of ever working with Jimmy Page and/or John Paul Jones again in any musical capacity (still not mentioning Led Zeppelin!)- whether co-writing a tune, recording a tune, performing a single show, etc., etc. etc. I have a feeling his answer would be:

"NEVER SAY NEVER".

He would then recite the lyrics to Ramble On as the interview ends and as he strolls out the door and out of sight.

"Leaves are falling all around, It's time I was on my way.
Thanks to you, I'm much obliged for such a pleasant stay.
But now it's time for me to go. The autumn moon lights my way.
For now I smell the rain, and with it pain, and it's headed my way.
Sometimes I grow so tired, but I know I've got one thing I got to do...


Ramble On, And now's the time, the time is now, to sing my song.
I'm goin' 'round the world, I got to find my girl, on my way.
I've been this way ten years to the day, Ramble On,
Gotta find the queen of all my dreams.

Got no time to for spreadin' roots, The time has come to be gone.
And to' our health we drank a thousand times, it's time to ramble On..."

Adios Robert, until we meet again.


Next up, I would interview Jimmy Page. The one and only question I would ask is "For crying out loud Jimmy, where's the damn solo album"?!!!!
His reply: "I've been working on it in between re-releasing the Zeppelin catalogue multiple times over the years...it's coming along smoothly and will be fantastic, just you wait and see".

I shake my head in disbelief and sadly walk away....

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So I guess a Clapton show really isn't a Clapton show because you might get 4 or 5 songs he did with Cream, Blind Faith, Derek and the Dominos or John Mayall?

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To be fair, he played three songs from his latest album and three more from the one prior...six songs released in the last three years is a decent nod to his solo career, IMHO.

Its fun going around in circles here ain't it? You both nailed it.

Yes RollinFreak, they both made valid points. Plant plays solo tunes indeed, but he also plays Zeppelin tunes.
He tries to downplay his work with Zeppelin as a thing of the past and says 'who wants to relive all that'? But here he is playing five Led Zeppelin tunes!
Surely you can see the contradiction? Or maybe you can't....

I'll respond once and elaborate on their point even though you obviously won't agree with it, yet keep trying to push your agenda (the way I and we are doing ours) as if at some point you'll hit on something none of us thought of:

He would OBVIOUSLY play Zeppelin during his solo sets. The same way Clapton does, the same way Jagger would. You get hung up on him downplaying Zeppelin as a thing of the past. That BAND is a thing of the past, the songs are not. He knows what they mean to people and thats why he plays them HIS way at his own shows, in radically different arrangements. The way he plays them with Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones under the guise of Led Zeppelin (or under any guise with any combination of those guys) brings pressures and expectations that are not there for his solo shows. That is why he doesn't do that. Because when he plays with them he has to, consciously or not, revert back to a man from the 1970s that he no longer is. That doesn't have to happen when he does solo shows and plays Zeppelin songs, again as he should.

I know it gets contentious and sarcastic from me, but I truly don't get why thats so difficult to understand. And I get how everything isn't a right or wrong sort of thing but I'm sorry this topic really is. History shows that on VERY few occasions these guys have ever gotten together to play and as they age it gets less likely. AND Robert has had to be clear about it because people (I won't say like you but just... people) then come to expect more when he gives an inch. So he has to be forceful and clear. Him being in Led Zeppelin or playing songs with those guys is a thing of the past. Him PLAYING Led Zeppelin songs is not. Is there a chance it could happen? Yes, of course, there's a chance of anything. But its so extremely unlikely, whether you want to believe it or not, that it (I think of course) is reasonable to get annoyed that it keeps getting brought up. If it does happen, great. But for now, there's no idea of that in sight, Jimmy has said as much, so to continually harp on it (the way I do with Jimmy's solo album, even though again history shows I'm more right than wrong on that topic, despite the fact that I wish I wasn't) is quite silly.

There. I don't know what else to say. Thats just the truth, its not meant to sound condescending or pompous or angry towards you. I'm sorry, but on this topic your argument is flawed and mine is based on a more realistic truth. Thats the nicest way I can say it. You've repeatedly refused to have an adult discussion about it (hence the sarcastic remarks that are now my trademark) and thats all the mature discussion I plan to have on this topic.

Congratulations! This is one of the most spot-on things I've ever read on Plant. Eloquent and well-informed!!!