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Just because the conspiracy sites are spreading rumors of a life exterminating event tomorrow or the next day [theintelhub.com] and there are rumors that Obama and his family will be leaving Washington DC headed to underground bunkers in Denver [anarchiel.com], does not mean that we dont love out Rolling Stones... besides, if the comet doesnt get ya, it could be a bus.... or an exwife...
Just play "gimme shelter", grab that drink you've been needing and smile
well said as usual MKC, I'm grabbin my surfboard in case the comet hits in the ocean somewhere...balanced on the biggest wave, race towards and early grave.. peace.
Jack White producing a new Stones record = a #1 album and some long lost credibility.
James, you are obsessed with the US #1 album, the Stones had MANY chances to hit the US #1 since 1994 and they lost it thanks to bad marketing strategy, a Stones' #1 album nowadays means nothing, you can hit the top spot selling 60,000 copies with no competition at all (see Tony Bennett) and the album will be out of the Top 200 in 10 weeks, where is the credibility?
Cake's debuted at #1 this year selling 44,000 copies but the album remained 7 weeks on the Top 200, are they more respected today?
Georgelicks:
Of all people on this board I would think that you would appreciate a Stones #1
album in America the most...I agree with you to a point, but I think a Stones #1 album in America (they have had # 1 albums in Europe and the global charts recently) would cap an amazing career...The press would eat it up and maybe get some of their new music some airplay
They might not find The Rolling Stones relevant, but chances are many more people find Mick Jagger relevant thanks to SuperHeavy, Moves Like Jagger & Swagger Jagger.
Tony Bennett has been in the business for more than 60 years. He happens to be Frank Sinatra's favourite crooner and is an absolute world class artist, whose album does not sell well because of his duet w/Amy, but simply because this is a fantastic album.
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It's just an easy option as far as I'm concerned, & many older artists find they can't get a record deal without doing this (ask Jerry Lee Lewis!). Less duet albums please.
Try telling that to people who have sold millions of records in the past.
Of course record sales are still important... probably even more so for the likes of Jerry Lee Lewis & Little Richard who are getting towards the end of their performing days.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
James Kirk
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Date: September 25, 2011 20:38
Looks like Tony Bennett is about to score his first ever #1 album this week with his Duets II album. If sales hold up and it appears they will, Tony Bennett will be the oldest living artist to hit #1 in the United States.
What makes it more amazing is that Bennett was thought of as a washed up lounge lizard in the grunge era who had been dropped by several record labels. Bennett found his newborn success by going back to the basics by producing a great record "Stepping Out" in the early 90's as well as coming up with a masterful marketing campaign that reminded people of why Bennett is the legend that he is.
I think the Stones (nearly 20 years Bennett's junior) could learn something from him... I'm not saying sales wise the Stones are anywhere near as bad off as Bennett was (they have hit #2 in the US several times with fairly recent releases) but their image and their relevance as a recording entity are...I am 100% convinced that if the Stones chose to make a relevant album ( with a tough minded producer who will tell them no when he has to) and promoted themselves in the same manner that Bennett and his team did they would be able to
tap into a massive market that is there for them and is waiting for the Stones to make one last classic album and not simply put together an album that is perceived by the masses as an excuse to tour behind.
The bottom line here is that if a man in his mid 80's can top the charts by being a little creative in marketing himself and producing a back to the basics album so can the Stones.
The Rolling Stones are not too old or irrelevant to 1) produce a great Stones record in 2012 2) Top the charts in 2012...The world wants the Stones to truly be "The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World"
Age means nothing as Tony Bennett has just proved. Quality music and reminding the world why the Stones are still the best band ever (through an aggresive marketing campaign) would make the Stones relevant and return them to the top of the charts in 2012...Age is no longer an excuse for Mick and Keith.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-25 20:51 by James Kirk.
What makes it more amazing is that Bennett was thought of as a washed up lounge lizard in the grunge era who had been dropped by several record labels. Bennett found his newborn success by going back to the basics by producing a great record "Stepping Out" in the early 90's as well as coming up with a masterful marketing campaign that reminded people of why Bennett is the legend that he is.
I think the Stones (nearly 20 years Bennett's junior) could learn something from him... I'm not saying sales wise the Stones are anywhere near as bad off as Bennett was (they have hit #2 in the US several times with fairly recent releases) but their image and their relevance as a recording entity are...I am 100% convinced that if the Stones chose to make a relevant album ( with a tough minded producer who will tell them no when he has to) and promoted themselves in the same manner that Bennett and his team did they would be able to
tap into a massive market that is there for them and is waiting for the Stones to make one last classic album and not simply put together an album that is perceived by the masses as an excuse to tour behind.
The bottom line here is that if a man in his mid 80's can top the charts by being a little creative in marketing himself and producing a back to the basics album so can the Stones.
The Rolling Stones are not too old or irrelevant to 1) produce a great Stones record in 2012 2) Top the charts in 2012...The world wants the Stones to truly be "The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World"
Age means nothing as Tony Bennett has just proved. Quality music and reminding the world why the Stones are still the best band ever (through an aggresive marketing campaign) would make the Stones relevant and return them to the top of the charts in 2012...Age is no longer an excuse for Mick and Keith.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-25 20:51 by James Kirk.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old
Posted by:
Max'sKansasCity
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Date: September 25, 2011 20:41
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James Kirk
Looks like Tony Bennett is about to score his first ever #1 album this week with his Duets II album. If sales hold up and it appears they will, Tony Bennett will be the oldest living artist to hit #1 in the United States.
85 years youngRe: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
ineedadrink
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Date: September 25, 2011 20:57
actually, the world doesn't give a shit. there are bigger issues and problems in this world to deal with.Quote
James Kirk
The world wants the Stones to truly be "The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World"
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
spsimmons
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Date: September 25, 2011 21:00
This definitely gives me some hope for the Stones. Hopefully we've yet to reach the Stones most prolific period. I'm being optimistic!
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
uhbuhgullayew
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Date: September 25, 2011 21:17
Keith - "If we were black guys, no one would be telling us to retire."
Exactly.
Exactly.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Max'sKansasCity
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Date: September 25, 2011 21:19
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ineedadrinkactually, the world doesn't give a shit. there are bigger issues and problems in this world to deal with.Quote
James Kirk
The world wants the Stones to truly be "The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World"
Just because the conspiracy sites are spreading rumors of a life exterminating event tomorrow or the next day [theintelhub.com] and there are rumors that Obama and his family will be leaving Washington DC headed to underground bunkers in Denver [anarchiel.com], does not mean that we dont love out Rolling Stones... besides, if the comet doesnt get ya, it could be a bus.... or an exwife...
Just play "gimme shelter", grab that drink you've been needing and smile
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: September 25, 2011 21:26
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Max'sKansasCityQuote
ineedadrinkactually, the world doesn't give a shit. there are bigger issues and problems in this world to deal with.Quote
James Kirk
The world wants the Stones to truly be "The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World"
Just because the conspiracy sites are spreading rumors of a life exterminating event tomorrow or the next day [theintelhub.com] and there are rumors that Obama and his family will be leaving Washington DC headed to underground bunkers in Denver [anarchiel.com], does not mean that we dont love out Rolling Stones... besides, if the comet doesnt get ya, it could be a bus.... or an exwife...
Just play "gimme shelter", grab that drink you've been needing and smile
well said as usual MKC, I'm grabbin my surfboard in case the comet hits in the ocean somewhere...balanced on the biggest wave, race towards and early grave.. peace.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
James Kirk
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Date: September 25, 2011 21:27
Ok, an overstatement but you get the point. There is still an audience (see the massive tours) but most people don't think the Stones are relevant. In my humble opinion that can be changed fairly easily with an album that counts...If a near 90 year old Tony Bennett can do it why can't the Stones?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-25 21:28 by James Kirk.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-25 21:28 by James Kirk.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Max'sKansasCity
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Date: September 25, 2011 21:33
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ineedadrink
I'm grabbin my surfboard in case the comet hits in the ocean somewhere...balanced on the biggest wave, race towards and early grave.. peace.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Amused
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Date: September 25, 2011 22:05
Loretta Lyyn and Wanda Jackson, thanks to mr White, have recently been on fire - that's something! x)
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
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Date: September 25, 2011 22:08
Doris Day is even older than Tony Bennet (& Chuck Berry), but her career is doing OK too...
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Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
James Kirk
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Date: September 26, 2011 00:38
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Amused
Loretta Lyyn and Wanda Jackson, thanks to mr White, have recently been on fire - that's something! x)
Jack White producing a new Stones record = a #1 album and some long lost credibility.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
georgelicks
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Date: September 26, 2011 01:17
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James KirkQuote
Amused
Loretta Lyyn and Wanda Jackson, thanks to mr White, have recently been on fire - that's something! x)
Jack White producing a new Stones record = a #1 album and some long lost credibility.
James, you are obsessed with the US #1 album, the Stones had MANY chances to hit the US #1 since 1994 and they lost it thanks to bad marketing strategy, a Stones' #1 album nowadays means nothing, you can hit the top spot selling 60,000 copies with no competition at all (see Tony Bennett) and the album will be out of the Top 200 in 10 weeks, where is the credibility?
Cake's debuted at #1 this year selling 44,000 copies but the album remained 7 weeks on the Top 200, are they more respected today?
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
lapaz62
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Date: September 26, 2011 02:50
Its a bit easier to sing than play when you get older, singers have always had it easy, either you can sing or you cant, buy a microphone and away you go. No need to learn anything, spend thousands on instruments, at least buy the PA and help out 
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-27 01:27 by lapaz62.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-27 01:27 by lapaz62.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
James Kirk
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Date: September 26, 2011 05:43
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georgelicksQuote
James KirkQuote
Amused
Loretta Lyyn and Wanda Jackson, thanks to mr White, have recently been on fire - that's something! x)
Jack White producing a new Stones record = a #1 album and some long lost credibility.
James, you are obsessed with the US #1 album, the Stones had MANY chances to hit the US #1 since 1994 and they lost it thanks to bad marketing strategy, a Stones' #1 album nowadays means nothing, you can hit the top spot selling 60,000 copies with no competition at all (see Tony Bennett) and the album will be out of the Top 200 in 10 weeks, where is the credibility?
Cake's debuted at #1 this year selling 44,000 copies but the album remained 7
weeks on the Top 200, are they more respected today?
Georgelicks:
Of all people on this board I would think that you would appreciate a Stones #1
album in America the most...I agree with you to a point, but I think a Stones #1 album in America (they have had # 1 albums in Europe and the global charts recently) would cap an amazing career...The press would eat it up and maybe get some of their new music some airplay
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Justin
()
Date: September 26, 2011 08:27
I would assume Amy Winehouse's last duet ever recorded with Tony that's on the record (which has been getting great reviews) seems to be the main reason for the album doing so well.
Good for Tony, though.
Good for Tony, though.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Title5Take1
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Date: September 26, 2011 09:23
I saw 82-year-old Sonny Rollins in concert tonight, and he was absolutely brilliant. Fluid as could be. He got two standing ovations. Of course, being a Stones fan, I thought, "Mick danced in the studio in front of Sonny Rollins—at Rollins request— when Rollins recorded his parts for WAITING ON A FRIEND, NEIGHBORS and SLAVE." And I most enjoyed the bits tonight that were reminiscent of his playing on Tattoo You. But Rollins wasn't just good tonight for an 82-year-old, he was brilliant by any standard.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
21stcenturystones
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Date: September 26, 2011 12:32
Ok, an overstatement but you get the point. There is still an audience (see the massive tours) but most people don't think the Stones are relevant. In my humble opinion that can be changed fairly easily with an album that counts...If a near 90 year old Tony Bennett can do it why can't the Stones.....
....because they don't want to, that's why...it's over
....because they don't want to, that's why...it's over
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: September 26, 2011 12:37
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21stcenturystones
Ok, an overstatement but you get the point. There is still an audience (see the massive tours) but most people don't think the Stones are relevant. In my humble opinion that can be changed fairly easily with an album that counts...If a near 90 year old Tony Bennett can do it why can't the Stones.....
....because they don't want to, that's why...it's over
They might not find The Rolling Stones relevant, but chances are many more people find Mick Jagger relevant thanks to SuperHeavy, Moves Like Jagger & Swagger Jagger.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Bliss
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Date: September 26, 2011 14:28
You're really reaching here...different audience entirely; TB is no rocker and never was.
But thanks for the laugh..."washed up lounge lizard".
My terrace in the south of France is overrun with active little wall lizards...not washed up at all.
But thanks for the laugh..."washed up lounge lizard".
My terrace in the south of France is overrun with active little wall lizards...not washed up at all.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
The GR
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Date: September 26, 2011 16:22
Yes, the Stones can do a duet album, with Lady Gaga and Rihanna. I believe Cliff Richards just done one too. More duet albums please.
Yeeeuch !!
Yeeeuch !!
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
the juf
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Date: September 26, 2011 19:56
Quote
Justin
I would assume Amy Winehouse's last duet ever recorded with Tony that's on the record (which has been getting great reviews) seems to be the main reason for the album doing so well.
Good for Tony, though.
Tony Bennett has been in the business for more than 60 years. He happens to be Frank Sinatra's favourite crooner and is an absolute world class artist, whose album does not sell well because of his duet w/Amy, but simply because this is a fantastic album.
[www.paulinestroosnijder.com]
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Title5Take1
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Date: September 26, 2011 19:57
On last Saturday's season premiere of SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE—that was hosted by Alec Baldwin—Baldwin did an amusing Tony Bennet impression during Weekend Update.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
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Date: September 26, 2011 20:11
Quote
The GR
Yes, the Stones can do a duet album, with Lady Gaga and Rihanna. I believe Cliff Richards just done one too. More duet albums please.
Yeeeuch !!
It's just an easy option as far as I'm concerned, & many older artists find they can't get a record deal without doing this (ask Jerry Lee Lewis!). Less duet albums please.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
lapaz62
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Date: September 27, 2011 01:31
Does it really matter about record deals now, make the Album yourself, Youtube and itunes have made it easier now than its ever been to get your stuff out there, can someone tell Mick Taylor that.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
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Date: September 27, 2011 01:33
Quote
lapaz62
Does it really matter about record deals now, make the Album yourself, Youtube and itunes have made it easier now than its ever been to get your stuff out there, can someone tell Mick Taylor that.
Try telling that to people who have sold millions of records in the past.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
lapaz62
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Date: September 27, 2011 01:38
Im not sure what that comment means, are you saying they are slow to evolve or that record deals are still important, remember are lot of acts were ripped off big time in the past as well.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: September 27, 2011 01:47
Quote
lapaz62
Im not sure what that comment means, are you saying they are slow to evolve or that record deals are still important, remember are lot of acts were ripped off big time in the past as well.
Of course record sales are still important... probably even more so for the likes of Jerry Lee Lewis & Little Richard who are getting towards the end of their performing days.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
lapaz62
()
Date: September 27, 2011 01:52
itunes is still a sale, it just might not show up on the charts, it keeps the money rolling in but may not pay for a tour or publicity like a record company might.
Re: Tony Bennett has the #1 album in the US...Who says Stones are too old?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
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Date: September 27, 2011 05:06
Saw him in concert a couple of years ago...man, that dude can STILL sing!
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