I gathered that. But they make it sound like they have more than 27 albums! As opposed to "all of their studio albums".

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I read in an interview with ABKCO that they are planning to re-issue another batch of cd's. Next year would be quite perfect. And now that they have finally re-issued the first two uk albums and the uk Big Hits comps, digitally, they likely to be made available on cd next time around as well.

I AM ABOLSUTELY DONE BUYING REISSUES OF THE STONES! (Except if we get some cool outtakes and rarities on each one

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I read in an interview with ABKCO that they are planning to re-issue another batch of cd's. Next year would be quite perfect. And now that they have finally re-issued the first two uk albums and the uk Big Hits comps, digitally, they likely to be made available on cd next time around as well.

I AM ABOLSUTELY DONE BUYING REISSUES OF THE STONES! (Except if we get some cool outtakes and rarities on each one

...or at least cool new limited edition stickers!

i have the SACD and also the HDtracks versions of Let It Bleed - both sound incredible tbh - but as to which is better its vvv marginal but i do prefer the HDtracks, probly a mind over matter as i know these are MASSIVE files like 1.6 Gigs for the album

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i have the SACD and also the HDtracks versions of Let It Bleed - both sound incredible tbh - but as to which is better its vvv marginal but i do prefer the HDtracks, probly a mind over matter as i know these are MASSIVE files like 1.6 Gigs for the album

Just out of curiousity, how do you actually listen to them, through your computer?

Can you output to CD and not lose any of the 'fidelity' if that is the correct use of the word?

I have a pretty good sound system with my computer but even still, I'd like to hear what it sounds like on my stereo.

Can you output or would you need to network it to your computer?

My computer soundcard is connected to my Hi Fi system. It's enough to enjoy these high definition files.


By the way HDtracks has just released the 3 UK EP's from the 60's in High Resolution.
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My computer soundcard is connected to my Hi Fi system. It's enough to enjoy these high definition files.


By the way HDtracks has just released the 3 UK EP's from the 60's in High Resolution.
[www.hdtracks.com]

To me, that is the only real problem with these files, that you are limited to having to listen through your computer system, in order to get the true HD sound.

Perhaps recording to Blu Ray disc is an option?

Hell, the Stones' "first 27 albums" could fit on one Blu-ray. A box disc.

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To me, that is the only real problem with these files, that you are limited to having to listen through your computer system, in order to get the true HD sound.

Also don't forget that most computers are not designed to handle audio properly and make plenty of noise. Unless you are using a professional sound card with a dedicated and stable power supply, it doesn't make much sense imo.

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To me, that is the only real problem with these files, that you are limited to having to listen through your computer system, in order to get the true HD sound.

Perhaps recording to Blu Ray disc is an option?

There are a plethora of new DtoA (digital to analog) converters on the market especially for playback of computer files. I'm looking forward to a laptop and one of these convertors as a part of my audio system, like a CD player or tuner or turntable. I keep accumulating files, like out of Hot Stuff, here. Burning CDs for all of them AND storing them is a pain in the ass. Hence, I intend to cut out out the "middle-man"

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To me, that is the only real problem with these files, that you are limited to having to listen through your computer system, in order to get the true HD sound.

Also don't forget that most computers are not designed to handle audio properly and make plenty of noise. Unless you are using a professional sound card with a dedicated and stable power supply, it doesn't make much sense imo.

I guess that is where I'm trying to wrap my mind around actually how you would make best use of the 'true HD sound'.

I'm not sure what a 'professional' HD card is...I know mine is excellent, and I have a Harmon Kardon 5.1 surround with my computer system.

With that said, is there going to be any sort of noticeable difference?

I also don't like that the portability doesn't seem to be there. What if I want to play it in my car? Sure you can burn to CD and lose the HD fidelity, but it isn't as if I don't already have almost every format of these recordings already.

I'm just wondering how one would be expected to properly enjoy the difference?

Casual sound cards are built using cheap D/A converters like the ones. Plus the analogue part of the card when enclosed within the computer is subject to all the electrical noise from fans, hard drives, low quality PSU... Clearly, this is not how even lower end hifi amplifiers are built.

The problem could be solved by sending the digital signal from the computer to an external converter that is able to handle HD signals. Dedicated players that are able to handle such signals, unless you target hi end systems, are usually nearly as bad as a computer.

The best solution IMO is to use professional or semi professional grade sound cards, like those used in home studio setups. A dedicated PSU will free you from the computer's noise. Brands like Lexicon, Mackie, Digidesign / Avid, MOTU... usually include better A/D converters than casual sound cards.

I have the same soundcard for 10 years or so. It's a Creative Sound Blaster Live! 5.1. I'm only using a golden RCA cable plugged to the amplifier...

What is the verdict on the Rolling Stones albums available from HDtracks.com at 176kHz/24bit, e.g. Beggar's Banquet or Let It Bleed?

I'm not a USA resident, so can't apparently order from HDtracks.com; must be a record company licensing issue, but I am just curious.

Cheers.
SonicD

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What is the verdict on the Rolling Stones albums available from HDtracks.com at 176kHz/24bit, e.g. Beggar's Banquet or Let It Bleed?

I'm not a USA resident, so can't apparently order from HDtracks.com; must be a record company licensing issue, but I am just curious.

Cheers.
SonicD

I'm not a USA resident neither but I ordered mine by Paypal.

The sound on the first albums is really astonishing. I never heard these albums this way before. For example to me Bill Wyman's bass has never sounded like this before.
As for Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed I still prefer to listen to my good old London CD's as dynamic range is more respected.
If you want to give a try just get one of the "Big Hits" compilation...

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As for Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed I still prefer to listen to my good old London CD's as dynamic range is more respected.

Beggars Banquet actually has more dynamic range on the ABKCO remaster, if you go by the numbers.

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As for Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed I still prefer to listen to my good old London CD's as dynamic range is more respected.

Beggars Banquet actually has more dynamic range on the ABKCO remaster, if you go by the numbers.

I also prefer the ABKCO remaster to the London CD. However, wouldn't it stand to reason that the dynamic range would be even higher on the HD downloads now available? This has been discussed on a few threads.

Even if the HD downloads are the best, how is one supposed to listen to them, with their improved dynamic range, in your car, or anywhere else? Isn't their a portability problem? Also observed, unless you have a 'professional' sound card, even your computer's playback would have it's problems.

Great to have the penultimate version, but then not be able to enjoy it the way it was meant to be heard.

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As for Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed I still prefer to listen to my good old London CD's as dynamic range is more respected.

Beggars Banquet actually has more dynamic range on the ABKCO remaster, if you go by the numbers.

Actually you're right. Well it must be something else then

I bought 4 of them, UK Aftermath, UK Buttons, Ya-Ya's and Metamorphisis. I love them all!

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As for Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed I still prefer to listen to my good old London CD's as dynamic range is more respected.

Beggars Banquet actually has more dynamic range on the ABKCO remaster, if you go by the numbers.

Actually you're right. Well it must be something else then

Maybe you prefer it at slightly slower speed/pitch?

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As for Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed I still prefer to listen to my good old London CD's as dynamic range is more respected.

Beggars Banquet actually has more dynamic range on the ABKCO remaster, if you go by the numbers.

Actually you're right. Well it must be something else then

Maybe you prefer it at slightly slower speed/pitch?

That may be one of the reason. Also I don't like that much the 2002 remasters "muffled sound" ...

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That may be one of the reason. Also I don't like that much the 2002 remasters "muffled sound" ...

Hmmm, my 2002 remaster CD sounds pretty much perfect.

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That may be one of the reason. Also I don't like that much the 2002 remasters "muffled sound" ...

Hmmm, my 2002 remaster CD sounds pretty much perfect.

Mine too actually. But I'm always amazed how more exciting sound the first releases on CD... Obviously sound was improved thanks to latest transfer technologies but at the same time I feel something was lost in the process.
2002 remastered version seems to have a narrowed sound when compared to the first CD release.



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How strange. 2002 Beggars - and Bleed - sounds a thousand times better than the original CD.