Tell Me :
Talk
Then don't read them!
WTF is wrong with this guy BT?. You don't like it DON'T READ IT,l think is nice for HB to share his interviews with us,and he doesn't deserve to be slagged off,so busted, go back to whatever rock you crawled from..
"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"
yes they did, at JFK in '78, and they kicked ass that day. Stones were sub-par, but that was the first time I ever saw them, so it was a thrill.
keep up the good work, hbwriter
Perfect advice, short and sweet and to the point! It's not like the guy is posting bomb making instructions, we're all here because of music.
This reminds me of friends of mine who "reply all" angrily to emails they disagree with, I always ask if they do the same to emails about Viagra or the Nigerian who promises a million $$ if they only supply their bank #.
Yay!
And Pete Anderson. Both in the same room at the same time....what about it HB?
thank you.
Well I totally appreciate that (and the other supportive comments made here) - I also meant what I said -
thanx mickschix
Wow- one could substitute "Rolling Stones" for "Foreigner" here and any Stones band member for others you mention and your screed would still be accurate. Suffice to say I'm glad I don't think like you do.
Talk about your favorite band.
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OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: July 13, 2011 18:31
We spoke the other day - here's a small piece in advance of the feature - this guy has a hell of a story
[blog.beliefnet.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-14 09:21 by hbwriter.
[blog.beliefnet.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-14 09:21 by hbwriter.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
Claire_M
()
Date: July 13, 2011 21:33
I look forward to reading the full story.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
bustedtrousers
()
Date: July 13, 2011 23:23
Yay. Another link to another one of YOUR articles about another has been. And I don't care how great his voice may be, his music is crap. Foreigner were great in the early 80's when I was in jr. high. But it's not the early 80's, and I'm not in jr. high anymore, so I could give a crap about any of them now. Or Gene Simmons. Or the guy from Simple Minds. Or Mrs. Who Gives A Shit.
The list is almost endless at this point. Maybe BV should just go ahead and give this section over to you, since almost every other thread is a promotion for one of your articles.
"Off topic posts
IORR is a board dedicated to The Rolling Stones and related topics. Still, other interesting topics may be accepted at times, as long as they are not offending, and as long as there are not too many of them at any time. Make sure you mark your Off Topic post with "OT:" in the subject field. In order to keep the OFF TOPIC number low - after all this is a ROLLING STONES board, not Facebook or Twitter, the IORR Editor will simply remove a lot of the Off Topic posts when they show up. Please do not post off topic, unless it is very important to a lot of us, or very interesting in general. Please no more "see me playing in my band" or other types of me-centric posts. Simply too many off topics. Thanks for your understanding. "
Or in your case, "see my newest article". I may be the only one, but I think you're pushing it with the constant hawking of your stuff. I doubt anything will ever be done about it because your posts aren't offensive, and cater to certain member types. Fair Enough. Every once in a while is ok, but it seems as though every article you write now is given a thread here. You've turned this site into your own personal link generator, and going by the above, I don't think it's right.
The list is almost endless at this point. Maybe BV should just go ahead and give this section over to you, since almost every other thread is a promotion for one of your articles.
"Off topic posts
IORR is a board dedicated to The Rolling Stones and related topics. Still, other interesting topics may be accepted at times, as long as they are not offending, and as long as there are not too many of them at any time. Make sure you mark your Off Topic post with "OT:" in the subject field. In order to keep the OFF TOPIC number low - after all this is a ROLLING STONES board, not Facebook or Twitter, the IORR Editor will simply remove a lot of the Off Topic posts when they show up. Please do not post off topic, unless it is very important to a lot of us, or very interesting in general. Please no more "see me playing in my band" or other types of me-centric posts. Simply too many off topics. Thanks for your understanding. "
Or in your case, "see my newest article". I may be the only one, but I think you're pushing it with the constant hawking of your stuff. I doubt anything will ever be done about it because your posts aren't offensive, and cater to certain member types. Fair Enough. Every once in a while is ok, but it seems as though every article you write now is given a thread here. You've turned this site into your own personal link generator, and going by the above, I don't think it's right.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
spsimmons
()
Date: July 13, 2011 23:51
I'm not bothered by your posts. I enjoy reading interviews that a fellow IORR member does with music artists from present OR past. Whether I like the artist or not.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
mickscarey
()
Date: July 14, 2011 00:21
Quote
bustedtrousers
Yay. Another link to another one of YOUR articles about another has been. And I don't care how great his voice may be, his music is crap. Foreigner were great in the early 80's when I was in jr. high. But it's not the early 80's, and I'm not in jr. high anymore, so I could give a crap about any of them now. Or Gene Simmons. Or the guy from Simple Minds. Or Mrs. Who Gives A Shit.
The list is almost endless at this point. Maybe BV should just go ahead and give this section over to you, since almost every other thread is a promotion for one of your articles.
"Off topic posts
IORR is a board dedicated to The Rolling Stones and related topics. Still, other interesting topics may be accepted at times, as long as they are not offending, and as long as there are not too many of them at any time. Make sure you mark your Off Topic post with "OT:" in the subject field. In order to keep the OFF TOPIC number low - after all this is a ROLLING STONES board, not Facebook or Twitter, the IORR Editor will simply remove a lot of the Off Topic posts when they show up. Please do not post off topic, unless it is very important to a lot of us, or very interesting in general. Please no more "see me playing in my band" or other types of me-centric posts. Simply too many off topics. Thanks for your understanding. "
Or in your case, "see my newest article". I may be the only one, but I think you're pushing it with the constant hawking of your stuff. I doubt anything will ever be done about it because your posts aren't offensive, and cater to certain member types. Fair Enough. Every once in a while is ok, but it seems as though every article you write now is given a thread here. You've turned this site into your own personal link generator, and going by the above, I don't think it's right.
Then don't read them!
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
DGA35
()
Date: July 14, 2011 00:45
I enjoy his posts, especially when there's not much Stones activity going on.
No one is forcing anyone here to read a particular post!
No one is forcing anyone here to read a particular post!
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
ChrisM
()
Date: July 14, 2011 00:49
Hear, hear!Quote
DGA35
I enjoy his posts, especially when there's not much Stones activity going on.
No one is forcing anyone here to read a particular post!
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
Duane in Houston
()
Date: July 14, 2011 01:06
I too enjoy your articles. Keep posting. I wish I could interview some veteran Rockers. When will you get to sit down with someone really cool like Dwight Yoakam or Lou Reed ?
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
ROPENI
()
Date: July 14, 2011 02:53
Quote
bustedtrousers
Yay. Another link to another one of YOUR articles about another has been. And I don't care how great his voice may be, his music is crap. Foreigner were great in the early 80's when I was in jr. high. But it's not the early 80's, and I'm not in jr. high anymore, so I could give a crap about any of them now. Or Gene Simmons. Or the guy from Simple Minds. Or Mrs. Who Gives A Shit.
The list is almost endless at this point. Maybe BV should just go ahead and give this section over to you, since almost every other thread is a promotion for one of your articles.
"Off topic posts
IORR is a board dedicated to The Rolling Stones and related topics. Still, other interesting topics may be accepted at times, as long as they are not offending, and as long as there are not too many of them at any time. Make sure you mark your Off Topic post with "OT:" in the subject field. In order to keep the OFF TOPIC number low - after all this is a ROLLING STONES board, not Facebook or Twitter, the IORR Editor will simply remove a lot of the Off Topic posts when they show up. Please do not post off topic, unless it is very important to a lot of us, or very interesting in general. Please no more "see me playing in my band" or other types of me-centric posts. Simply too many off topics. Thanks for your understanding. "
Or in your case, "see my newest article". I may be the only one, but I think you're pushing it with the constant hawking of your stuff. I doubt anything will ever be done about it because your posts aren't offensive, and cater to certain member types. Fair Enough. Every once in a while is ok, but it seems as though every article you write now is given a thread here. You've turned this site into your own personal link generator, and going by the above, I don't think it's right.
WTF is wrong with this guy BT?. You don't like it DON'T READ IT,l think is nice for HB to share his interviews with us,and he doesn't deserve to be slagged off,so busted, go back to whatever rock you crawled from..
"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
loog droog
()
Date: July 14, 2011 03:59
Quote
bustedtrousers
Yay. Another link to another one of YOUR articles about another has been. And I don't care how great his voice may be, his music is crap. Foreigner were great in the early 80's when I was in jr. high. But it's not the early 80's, and I'm not in jr. high anymore, so I could give a crap about any of them now. Or Gene Simmons. Or the guy from Simple Minds. Or Mrs. Who Gives A Shit.
The list is almost endless at this point. Maybe BV should just go ahead and give this section over to you, since almost every other thread is a promotion for one of your articles.
"Off topic posts
IORR is a board dedicated to The Rolling Stones and related topics. Still, other interesting topics may be accepted at times, as long as they are not offending, and as long as there are not too many of them at any time. Make sure you mark your Off Topic post with "OT:" in the subject field. In order to keep the OFF TOPIC number low - after all this is a ROLLING STONES board, not Facebook or Twitter, the IORR Editor will simply remove a lot of the Off Topic posts when they show up. Please do not post off topic, unless it is very important to a lot of us, or very interesting in general. Please no more "see me playing in my band" or other types of me-centric posts. Simply too many off topics. Thanks for your understanding. "
Or in your case, "see my newest article". I may be the only one, but I think you're pushing it with the constant hawking of your stuff. I doubt anything will ever be done about it because your posts aren't offensive, and cater to certain member types. Fair Enough. Every once in a while is ok, but it seems as though every article you write now is given a thread here. You've turned this site into your own personal link generator, and going by the above, I don't think it's right.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: July 14, 2011 07:52
wow- how'd I miss this?
first up - thanks for the kind words to those who came to my defense - i love you guys!
second - busted is thoroughly entitled to his opinion and I applaud him for expressing it so clearly - i may not agree with it - but I like the spirit behind it
third - to busted directly - i'm sorry if my posts seem excessive - genuinely i am. I do not spend any other time at any other board on the internet - this is pretty much it. i'm typically not a big fan of things like this, but this is the rolling stones - the most important non family, non religious force in my life- i find the people here, for the most part, to be erudite, interesting, kindred, generous, compassionate, witty, open-minded and many other wonderful things.
If the Stones were active I'd rarely post anything non-Stones related - you can check back - I never did - but people here seem to know so much about music, ALL kinds of music - that I guess i just figured it might be interesting to share some of these things I do. Some marvelous discussions have resulted from time to time, too - all in the cradle of silence since the last tour.
Also, I offer more Stones threads than anything else I do here - you can check that too - some of which get tens of thousands of hits and hundreds of comments - so it's not like I'm not interested in keeping the fire stoked. (I also comment frequently in non-me threads.)
As well, by saying I "hawk" my stuff you imply that I'm selling something - not true at all - I get nothing from "viewings" at web sites - I simply get paid to write what I write and that's it- do you know that to "hawk" means to sell?
All that said, I will defer to BV on any/all of these issues. If he has a problem, then I have a problem - this is his house, not mine (or yours).
But I'd really like it known that most honestly, I post those things here because the fan in me simply likes to share, with a marvelously knowledgeable base of people from all over the world , some insights from musicians - some stories -no more or less.
Again, I respect your opinion and I'm sorry these posts have caused such discomfort - and I extend that same sentiment to anyone else who feels that way but has yet to express it.
ps- as to "Every article I write" getting a thread here" - you should know - I write dozens - make that hundreds of pieces - that will never be seen here. I just post the musical stuff to stem that tide til all hell breaks loose - hopefully next year.
Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-14 18:53 by hbwriter.
first up - thanks for the kind words to those who came to my defense - i love you guys!
second - busted is thoroughly entitled to his opinion and I applaud him for expressing it so clearly - i may not agree with it - but I like the spirit behind it
third - to busted directly - i'm sorry if my posts seem excessive - genuinely i am. I do not spend any other time at any other board on the internet - this is pretty much it. i'm typically not a big fan of things like this, but this is the rolling stones - the most important non family, non religious force in my life- i find the people here, for the most part, to be erudite, interesting, kindred, generous, compassionate, witty, open-minded and many other wonderful things.
If the Stones were active I'd rarely post anything non-Stones related - you can check back - I never did - but people here seem to know so much about music, ALL kinds of music - that I guess i just figured it might be interesting to share some of these things I do. Some marvelous discussions have resulted from time to time, too - all in the cradle of silence since the last tour.
Also, I offer more Stones threads than anything else I do here - you can check that too - some of which get tens of thousands of hits and hundreds of comments - so it's not like I'm not interested in keeping the fire stoked. (I also comment frequently in non-me threads.)
As well, by saying I "hawk" my stuff you imply that I'm selling something - not true at all - I get nothing from "viewings" at web sites - I simply get paid to write what I write and that's it- do you know that to "hawk" means to sell?
All that said, I will defer to BV on any/all of these issues. If he has a problem, then I have a problem - this is his house, not mine (or yours).
But I'd really like it known that most honestly, I post those things here because the fan in me simply likes to share, with a marvelously knowledgeable base of people from all over the world , some insights from musicians - some stories -no more or less.
Again, I respect your opinion and I'm sorry these posts have caused such discomfort - and I extend that same sentiment to anyone else who feels that way but has yet to express it.
ps- as to "Every article I write" getting a thread here" - you should know - I write dozens - make that hundreds of pieces - that will never be seen here. I just post the musical stuff to stem that tide til all hell breaks loose - hopefully next year.
Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-14 18:53 by hbwriter.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
BluzDude
()
Date: July 14, 2011 07:58
Well said hbwriter! (but then again, that's what you do)!
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: July 14, 2011 08:04
Thanks - i meant it sincerely
And hey - I just remembered that Foreigner opened for the Stones in Philly - (with Peter Tosh if I recall)
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-14 08:15 by hbwriter.
And hey - I just remembered that Foreigner opened for the Stones in Philly - (with Peter Tosh if I recall)
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-14 08:15 by hbwriter.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
leteyer
()
Date: July 14, 2011 13:42
DittoQuote
spsimmons
I'm not bothered by your posts. I enjoy reading interviews that a fellow IORR member does with music artists from present OR past. Whether I like the artist or not.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
Kurt
()
Date: July 14, 2011 15:37
HB,
Keep up the great work and keep letting us know what you are up to.
I read threads if I think they sound interesting or entertaining or educational or bizarre. So far, no one has forced me to read all of them.
Keep up the great work and keep letting us know what you are up to.
I read threads if I think they sound interesting or entertaining or educational or bizarre. So far, no one has forced me to read all of them.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
UGot2Rollme
()
Date: July 14, 2011 15:52
Quote
hbwriter
Thanks - i meant it sincerely
And hey - I just remembered that Foreigner opened for the Stones in Philly - (with Peter Tosh if I recall)
yes they did, at JFK in '78, and they kicked ass that day. Stones were sub-par, but that was the first time I ever saw them, so it was a thrill.
keep up the good work, hbwriter
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: July 14, 2011 17:23
While I agree there can be a lot of irrelevant OT posts here, I think the ones which are music related are of interest, and I'm also one that is supportive of your posting these interviews.
Whether or not we personally 'like' who you are interviewing shouldn't have any bearing either.
The relative anonymity of a message board can sometimes allow for the abuse of the 'rant feature'. A lot of us have been guilty of this.
While I'm not a proponent of censorship per se, I think a healthy dose of self-censorship can only result in more positive, if not more coherent, posts.
Whether or not we personally 'like' who you are interviewing shouldn't have any bearing either.
The relative anonymity of a message board can sometimes allow for the abuse of the 'rant feature'. A lot of us have been guilty of this.
While I'm not a proponent of censorship per se, I think a healthy dose of self-censorship can only result in more positive, if not more coherent, posts.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
ChrisM
()
Date: July 14, 2011 18:39
A classy response to a hostile post hb. Well done. A lesson that many of us here at times, including myself, could make use of...
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
Claire_M
()
Date: July 14, 2011 19:37
I too enjoy HB's posts. And Lou G. has an amazing, heart-rending story -- I wasn't even that much of a Foreigner fan back in the day but you can't help but be moved by what Mr. Gramm has gone through.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
kovach
()
Date: July 14, 2011 20:45
Quote
mickscarey
Then don't read them!
Perfect advice, short and sweet and to the point! It's not like the guy is posting bomb making instructions, we're all here because of music.
This reminds me of friends of mine who "reply all" angrily to emails they disagree with, I always ask if they do the same to emails about Viagra or the Nigerian who promises a million $$ if they only supply their bank #.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: July 14, 2011 20:53
Quote
Duane in Houston
When will you get to sit down with someone really cool like Dwight Yoakam
Yay!
And Pete Anderson. Both in the same room at the same time....what about it HB?
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
[email protected]
()
Date: July 15, 2011 03:40
Wow! Someone really has 'a bee their bonnet'.
I really, really enjoy your posts/articles Chris. BV has deleted many OT posts before but I believe he gives you some latitude because being a professional writer you bring some much needed eliquence to this board.
So, what happened to an instore at Book Soup?
Scotty
Irvine, CA
I really, really enjoy your posts/articles Chris. BV has deleted many OT posts before but I believe he gives you some latitude because being a professional writer you bring some much needed eliquence to this board.
So, what happened to an instore at Book Soup?
Scotty
Irvine, CA
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
whitem8
()
Date: July 15, 2011 03:43
Keep writing hbwriter! someone i fear is a tad jealous that you can write well.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: July 15, 2011 07:10
Quote
ChrisM
A classy response to a hostile post hb. Well done. A lesson that many of us here at times, including myself, could make use of...
thank you.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
mickschix
()
Date: July 15, 2011 13:46
HB, you are not the one who should apologize for ANYTHING; most of us really like your articles. Busted, IMO, was very rude and the nastiness was unnecessary. I can't imagine your articles annoy BV or you'd have heard about it by now!
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: July 15, 2011 18:04
Quote
mickschix
HB, you are not the one who should apologize for ANYTHING; most of us really like your articles. Busted, IMO, was very rude and the nastiness was unnecessary. I can't imagine your articles annoy BV or you'd have heard about it by now!
Well I totally appreciate that (and the other supportive comments made here) - I also meant what I said -
thanx mickschix
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
Sleepy City
()
Date: July 15, 2011 18:07
I confess to not reading many of your off-topic posts, but they certainly don't offend me & at least they're about music, unlike so many off-topic posts on here. Please keep posting! 
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-15 18:12 by Sleepy City.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-15 18:12 by Sleepy City.
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
crumbling_mice
()
Date: July 17, 2011 01:21
I'd like BUsted Trousers or whatever his name is to come back on and tell us what exactly is the issue with HBwriter's threads...I for one, find 99% of them interesting, they are always about music and usually from the same generation as the stones, i.e. 60's, 70's and 80's. He always clearly states if it is off topic - thereby giving the reader the option of reading it or not and he, as he states posts some great stones related stuff too. I can't see why they could offend you Busted, we have some incredibly mundane threads on here which are far more offending and dull than anything HB puts up here. He's a writer, who has access to interviewing some of the great names in Rock, why would you not want to read them? He isn't making money out of posting on here and he uses a pseudonym rather than his real name. Please tell us why it offends you so much?
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm-UPDATED WITH RESPONSE TO COMPLAINT
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: July 17, 2011 07:58
Crumbling - thanks a lot - I appreciate the way you expressed your thoughts
Re: OT-Foreigner's Lou Gramm
Posted by:
Long John Stoner
()
Date: July 17, 2011 21:33
Quote
bustedtrousers
Yay. Another link to another one of YOUR articles about another has been. And I don't care how great his voice may be, his music is crap. Foreigner were great in the early 80's when I was in jr. high. But it's not the early 80's, and I'm not in jr. high anymore, so I could give a crap about any of them now. Or Gene Simmons. Or the guy from Simple Minds. Or Mrs. Who Gives A Shit.
The list is almost endless at this point. Maybe BV should just go ahead and give this section over to you, since almost every other thread is a promotion for one of your articles.
"Off topic posts
IORR is a board dedicated to The Rolling Stones and related topics. Still, other interesting topics may be accepted at times, as long as they are not offending, and as long as there are not too many of them at any time. Make sure you mark your Off Topic post with "OT:" in the subject field. In order to keep the OFF TOPIC number low - after all this is a ROLLING STONES board, not Facebook or Twitter, the IORR Editor will simply remove a lot of the Off Topic posts when they show up. Please do not post off topic, unless it is very important to a lot of us, or very interesting in general. Please no more "see me playing in my band" or other types of me-centric posts. Simply too many off topics. Thanks for your understanding. "
Or in your case, "see my newest article". I may be the only one, but I think you're pushing it with the constant hawking of your stuff. I doubt anything will ever be done about it because your posts aren't offensive, and cater to certain member types. Fair Enough. Every once in a while is ok, but it seems as though every article you write now is given a thread here. You've turned this site into your own personal link generator, and going by the above, I don't think it's right.
Wow- one could substitute "Rolling Stones" for "Foreigner" here and any Stones band member for others you mention and your screed would still be accurate. Suffice to say I'm glad I don't think like you do.
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