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OT: Stax
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: June 30, 2011 17:37

So, I wanted to improve my bass playing.

Someone said listen to "Duck Dunn".

I said "who?". I checked him out.

How come I missed out on so much good music over the years?

Stax just wasn't on my radar, not even Otis Redding really.

I'm catching up now.

Awesome.

Anyone got any good pointers.

Otis Live in Europe is a good album.

How come those white guys (Dunn and Cropper) made all that great soul music?

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: June 30, 2011 17:41





Great.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: June 30, 2011 17:42

Oh and one more thing.... I know where Paul McCartney nicked some of his mid-60's stuff from now.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 30, 2011 18:03

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GravityBoy
Oh and one more thing.... I know where Paul McCartney nicked some of his mid-60's stuff from now.

He openly admitted to being influenced by Stax & Motown during the mid 60s.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: djgab ()
Date: June 30, 2011 18:07

he also played with Murph and the Magic Tones




Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: June 30, 2011 18:39

GravityBoy,

you didn't miss it, you probably heard it, you just didn't know it was Duck.

(In the ) Midnight Hour

Hold On I'm Comin'

Stop Draggin My Heart Around

any Booker T & the MG's after '65 .. (he wasn't on 'Green Onions')

check him and Cropper out on lots of songs on the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Live disc set, if you want...

also don't forget Al Jackson Jr, the drummer he played with mostly...

what a groove.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 30, 2011 18:43

Gravity, you may have come late to the party, but now that you're here, pull up a chair and enjoy the finest groove music these United States have ever produced. And if you are ever in Mephis, go to the Stax Museum of Soul.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Cristiano Radtke ()
Date: June 30, 2011 18:44




Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: stones78 ()
Date: June 30, 2011 18:47

Steve Cropper's one of the best guitar players ever. Always played what was right for the song, he was a big influence on Robbie Robertson's approach with The Band and on Jimi Hendrix's rhythm playing. One of the true greats.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: June 30, 2011 18:51

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stones78
Steve Cropper's one of the best guitar players ever. Always played what was right for the song, he was a big influence on Robbie Robertson's approach with The Band and on Jimi Hendrix's rhythm playing. One of the true greats.

+ 1000

No pyrotechnics, no effects. Just a Telecaster, great chops, amazing taste, and great material to play on. What a concept.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: djgab ()
Date: June 30, 2011 18:59

the Funky Chicken by Rufus Thomas




Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: June 30, 2011 19:14

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71Tele
Gravity, you may have come late to the party, but now that you're here, pull up a chair and enjoy the finest groove music these United States have ever produced. And if you are ever in Mephis, go to the Stax Museum of Soul.

thumbs upthumbs upthumbs up
smileys with beer

I'm a huge longtime Stax fan, bass player too.

And I still haven't been to that museum yet! gotta git there.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Sleepy City ()
Date: June 30, 2011 19:24

He also played on Jerry Lee Lewis 1973 'Southern Roots' LP (as did Steve Cropper & Al Jackson):




Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: June 30, 2011 19:54

Motown's southern cousin provided some of the finest music ever recorded - Otis, Sam and Dave, The Staple Singers, Booker T. and The M. G.'s, etc. - many others.

There's a 4-disc box set that is a great starting point.


Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: June 30, 2011 20:27

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djgab
the Funky Chicken by Rufus Thomas



I really like Funky Broadway as well, now that is a GROOVE.





Magic.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: June 30, 2011 21:26

The tour of the studios in Memphis is really cool.

This is a good starter to STAX:

[www.amazon.com]

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: loog droog ()
Date: June 30, 2011 23:49

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GravityBoy

I really like Funky Broadway as well, now that is a GROOVE.





Magic.


Yes. But it was recorded at Fame, not Stax, with Tommy Gogbill on bass.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: July 1, 2011 00:14

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loog droog
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GravityBoy

I really like Funky Broadway as well, now that is a GROOVE.





Magic.


Yes. But it was recorded at Fame, not Stax, with Tommy Gogbill on bass.

?

It says Stax on various web sites including one that listed Donald Dunn's recordings.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-01 00:14 by GravityBoy.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: July 1, 2011 00:22

In fact... the bass transcription book "What Duck Done" transcribes Wilson Pickett / Funky Broadway as one of Duck Dunn's tracks.

[www.amazon.com]

I got hold of most of the 33 tracks listed in the book and I have been having a nice time listening to them.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2011-07-01 00:23 by GravityBoy.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: July 1, 2011 00:34

I can see now that Tommy Cogbill played bass on "The Sound of Wilson Pickett".

Why does the "What Duck Done" book list it as Donald Dunn?

Great track anyway.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 1, 2011 00:57

Essential ---- Stax singles 59-68 9CD set and it carries that mighty
piece of Otis soul Don't Leave Me This Way --- only released on
B-side of Come To Me single and that surfin' garage like instrumental Restless by The Cobras ........









ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: July 1, 2011 01:11

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Rockman
Essential ---- Stax singles 59-68 9CD set and it carries that mighty
piece of Otis soul Don't Leave Me This Way --- only released on
B-side of Come To Me single and that surfin' garage like instrumental Restless by The Cobras ........





Awesome, Rockman...

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 1, 2011 01:15

Awesome......Yeah Tele sure is ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: July 1, 2011 01:21

Yes guys the complete stax singles is great! I also have volume 2 that goes through the early 70's. Great stuff!

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: July 1, 2011 01:33

that one, The Complete Singles, is a real treasure of music. Ah there's so much great music from that studio!

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Rev. Robert W. ()
Date: July 1, 2011 02:33



For me, still the ultimate. The two-disc "Collector's Edition" has both mono and stereo versions of the album (feat. different performances of some tracks) as well as some b-sides and material from Live In Europe (excellent) and In Person At The Whisky A Go-Go (staggering).

Also: Otis's Dictionary of Soul.

Lots and lots to look forward to...

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: stupidguy2 ()
Date: July 1, 2011 03:06

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71Tele
Gravity, you may have come late to the party, but now that you're here, pull up a chair and enjoy the finest groove music these United States have ever produced. And if you are ever in Mephis, go to the Stax Museum of Soul.

hallelujah!

"Soul Man" has got one of the greatest grooves ever: its such a loosey, goosey thing that Dunn did with those songs. That was the key to southern soul. Not so tight, just funky and almost laid back.
I started playing a tele because of Cropper and I didn't even know his name: I was 20, ready for my first electric and knew what sound I wanted, but was not a techie......
I told a guy I knew that I wanted to sound like that guy who plays "Soul Man" and "Knock On Wood". He said, 'That's a tele...'
Also, Gravity, you might want to check out Stax cousins in Muscle Shoals:

If Duck Dunn was a big 'Who?' to you, then Tommy Cogbill is a really big 'WTF?'
Listen to all those Aretha and Wilson Pickett grooves:

Sample TC lick:
(this is only version of the original recording I can find, but the kid does a pretty decent job of getting the groove...



Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: July 1, 2011 09:57

Thanks for your responses.

I'm going to have to check out Tommy Cogbill as well.

Great stuff.

Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: July 1, 2011 15:09

Motown's great James Jamerson is a bass-master too.






Re: OT: Stax
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: July 1, 2011 15:12

Another guy demonstrating James' style:




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