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Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: September 16, 2011 15:39

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mrfancyman
price of the deluxe version in Euros and in Holland?

19,99
[www.bol.com]

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 16, 2011 16:30

track talk: i don't mind

(mick says this is his favorite track. ours is the title track. mick says
"i don't mind" is emotionally a bit like "as tears go by", which it is,
only with a much better groove and a luscious sort of marvin gaye
and tammy terrel vibe. until damian intensifies it further and kind of
steals the show. one of the GREAT treats on this record, is when
mick and damian, on the same track, play more or less the same
character, maybe in different circumstances, living in different cultures,
and so expressing it in different ways, but going through the exact
same emotions. in this case: "you're just a memory, but you still
mean so much to me".)

out by the desolate shore
the waves come in with a roar
the children are playing

throwing stones in the water
dogs are chasing
the seagulls are flickering, bickering, bickering

horses are out in the pasture
seeing who's running faster
and inside the house
a young girl is sewing

what a peaceful scene
like a faded dream
it all looks like a sepia photograph

(joss does the chorus)

i don't mind
if you live in my mind
i'm happy to keep you there

and that's fine
oh you
you're all that i like
and my imagination's clear
ooooh

(mick)

the sun shines bright on the water
i walk with my daughter
and the whole world is
shimmering, shimmering, shimmering

i hear a churchbell ring
with a kind of lilt and swing
just then the noise of the planes
is shattering, shattering, shattering

out by the desolate shore
by the marshy moor
the children were playing

horses are out in the pasture
saddled up for the master
meanwhile the clouds are
gathering gathering gathering

(joss and mick do the chorus)

(then damian half sings half raps,
another of his specialties)

and even though you're just a figment
of my thoughts i'm still loving every segment
and my imagination got me desperate
and you've already took away my next breath
which means i'm doomed from the outset
because i'm in love without an outlet
which means i can't make no progress
means my ambitions are hopeless
i want to wrap around you like a necklace
but i can't, so you got me moving reckless
to you i'd rather give more and take less
because you got me want to conquer every conquest
i'm trying to tell you that i love you from the longest
i'm trying to tell you that my loving is the strongest
i'm trying to tell you that...

sweet dreams are made of me
and who are you to disagree?

(joss and mick final chorus)



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Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: DragonSky ()
Date: September 16, 2011 16:30

I've heard enough. There's nothing truly new or interesting going on. It's very generic sounding. I'm not bothering with it.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: IrelandCalling4 ()
Date: September 16, 2011 16:37

I purchased the 'Deluxe Edition' at lunchtime; am wondering, anyone knows if the booklet is the same on the Standard Version?

The booklet in Deluxe edition is coloured like the cover, black and white; it has a portrait of each member, but besides that it is just the track titles and who played on them. No lyrics and no group shot - as mentioned, just a page each with one shot of each of the 5 members.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Date: September 16, 2011 16:42

Nice one, nocomment. Pretty sure the line is "throwing stones in the water" and not "throwing Stones in the water." If this was "Kow Tow" I'd agree with you, but not in this instance.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 16, 2011 16:47

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WilliamPatrickMaynard
Nice one, nocomment. Pretty sure the line is "throwing stones in the water" and not "throwing Stones in the water." If this was "Kow Tow" I'd agree with you, but not in this instance.

thanks. we fixed it.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 16, 2011 17:45

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HighwireC
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Rolling Hansie
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Come On
Who likes this kind of music that Super Heavy is doin?

Yep, I do

me too thumbs upthumbs upthumbs upsmileys with beer

thumbs up

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 16, 2011 17:47

Mick loved working with the eclectic mix of musicians, but has joked that British songstress Joss tried his patience at times.

I was sat with her for three weeks, and she sings everything. She will sing the whole time, even when we weren't playing, she'd sing, trying to make up things ' melody lines and stuff,' he explained.

I tried not to be annoyed. When she sang, 'I want to go to the bathroom', I said, 'Joss, give it a break, dear!''

winking smiley

[www.music-news.com]

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 16, 2011 19:03

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nocomment
track talk: i don't mind

mick says this is his favorite track. ours is the title track.

dave stewart just tweeted that, at the moment, his favorite is "unbelievable",
which is our second favorite. our third favorite is "miracle worker", so
whoever put together the running order is also the winner of the prestigious
nocomment trifecta.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 16, 2011 19:41

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proudmary
I was sat with her for three weeks, and she sings everything. She will sing the whole time, even when we weren't playing, she'd sing, trying to make up things ' melody lines and stuff,' he explained.

I tried not to be annoyed. When she sang, 'I want to go to the bathroom', I said, 'Joss, give it a break, dear!''
[www.music-news.com]

yeah, this is funny, but we starting to get a little pissed at mick.

The secrets that two bandmates share/Should never have been betrayed

you really really lucky, dude, to have this particular chick in
your band. she the only reason we can get our girlfriend reba
to even listen to this album. joss ain't yer ronnie wood punching bag so...

respect!



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Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: SoulPlunderer ()
Date: September 16, 2011 19:43

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nocomment
Quote
proudmary
I was sat with her for three weeks, and she sings everything. She will sing the whole time, even when we weren't playing, she'd sing, trying to make up things ' melody lines and stuff,' he explained.

I tried not to be annoyed. When she sang, 'I want to go to the bathroom', I said, 'Joss, give it a break, dear!''
[www.music-news.com]

yeah, this is funny, but we starting to get a little pissed at mick.

The secrets that two bandmates share/Should never have been betrayed

you really really lucky, dude, to have this particular chick in
your band. she the only reason we can get our girlfriend reba
to even listen to this album. she ain't yer ronnie wood punching bag so...

respect!


?????

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Date: September 16, 2011 19:47

Rev really just wants to see if anyone caught his paraphrasing "Blinded By Love."

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 16, 2011 20:26

seriously, the paternalistic thing that mick is doing in his interviews
(and which dave is so careful to avoid) is pretty off-putting.

we happen to agree, on the evidence, that mick is, amazingly, given his age
and the brilliance of his bandmates, the definite star-of-stars in this
group. but none of the others deserve less public deference than what mick shows
charlie watts. joss has been so admiring of mick in her interviews, and so
enthusiastic about this project, and so brilliant in her performances on the
album, why he is choosing to make her the butt of a bathroom joke just for
some cheap publicity is...

not something we want to comment on any further.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: September 16, 2011 22:22

Good critics from Daily Mail - 4/5

[www.dailymail.co.uk]

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Norbert ()
Date: September 16, 2011 23:25

What a load of crap!!! - I'm absolutely positive I won't give it a second listen!
CrazyMama

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Martijnstone ()
Date: September 16, 2011 23:26

I like the album!
Great songs!!

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: September 16, 2011 23:37

too much of average mainstream adult pop rock but something is classy as the r'n'b' with reggae groove of rock me gently which is actually a beautiful song

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 17, 2011 00:29

Neil McCormick
Superheavy and the curse of pop's superegos
Superheavy, with a line-up that includes Mick Jagger and Dave Stewart, is the latest in a rock-and-roll tradition of supergroups.

How many solo artists does it take to change a lightbulb? Well, none, obviously, because they’d just get someone from the backing band to do it.
It is hard to imagine what Mick Jagger, Joss Stone, Damian Marley, Dave Stewart and Indian superstar composer A?R Rahman had in mind when they decided to join forces, but presumably it did not involve maintenance of lighting fixtures. Three lead vocalists and a couple of multi-instrumentalists, all distinctive and established singer-songwriters and stars in their own right across diverse musical genres: it sounds like a recipe for… well, not quite a disaster, perhaps, but certainly an overcooked broth of conflicting styles and egos. A supergroup, in other words.
As if to emphasise their own blockbuster billing, this starry quintet of rock, raga, reggae, soul and electronic pop legends have called themselves Superheavy. An album of the same name is released on Monday, and perhaps the most surprising thing about it is that it’s actually not a complete mess, enthusiastically mashing up global beats with pop melodies and zesty vocals.
The supergroup genre has not exactly covered itself in glory, being heavily weighted towards mercenary amalgamations of underemployed musicians from established bands whose motivation seems to be extending lucrative franchises after the original group members have all fallen out with each other.
In the Seventies, a supergroup would typically combine members of Free, Mott the Hoople and King Crimson (Bad Company); these days, they usually include at least one member of Guns N’ Roses with various grunge and heavy metal sidemen (Velvet Revolver, Neurotic Outsiders).

The very word supergroup is something of a misnomer. You could use a lot of adjectives to describe the Greedy Bastards, in which members of Thin Lizzy briefly united in 1980 for a Christmas single and short tour to fuel their hard-drug habits, but I don’t think “super” would be among them.
At its best, however, the idea of the supergroup is an honourable one, an opportunity for the top musicians in their respective fields to combine creative forces. Cream were arguably the first and greatest supergroup, their very name reflecting guitarist Eric Clapton, drummer Ginger Baker and bassist Jack Bruce’s status as “the cream of the crop” among blues and jazz musicians on the Sixties UK live scene.
Their brief, explosive career (four albums between 1966 and 1968) reflects the underlying problem with supergroups – superegos. The intense musical gladiatorial battles on stage were matched by less appealing squabbling in the dressing room. Even a well-intended reunion in 2005 was spoiled for Clapton by Baker and Bruce’s incessant arguments. “Life’s too short,” Clapton complained. “I’ve got a lot of things I’d rather do, including staying at home with my kids.” This, to be honest, is how I feel about most supergroups.
The Seventies was the era of the supergroup, as the first wave of rock bands broke up and reconfigured in new line-ups that sounded more like legal firms than bands: Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, or Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Heavy rock seems particularly prone to the syndrome, with members of Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Free and Led Zeppelin revolving around each other as if engaged in a never-ending game of musical chairs. But there have been indie supergroups (Electronica featured members of the Smiths, New Order and Pet Shop Boys), singer-songwriter supergroups (the Travelling Wilburys managed to take the stellar talents of George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison and Jeff Lynne and produce two albums of flippant, forgettable country rock) and alt rock supergroups (anything involving Jack White of White Stripes fame).
Has any supergroup, though, boasted a line-up quite as spectacularly peculiar as Superheavy? This is more like a superdupergroup.
Arguably, most bands of this type sound better in theory than in practice. The Dirty Mac should have been the ultimate rock line-up, featuring John Lennon on guitar and vocals, Clapton on lead, Keith Richards on bass and Mitch Mitchell of the Jimi Hendrix Experience on drums. But their one-night performance at the Rolling Stones’ Rock and Roll Circus in 1968 illustrated all of the problems with such concoctions: under-rehearsed, over-confident and ill-matched, they were inevitably less than the sum of their parts. And then, just when it’s beginning to gel, Yoko Ono jumps out of a black bag and starts wailing in a different key to everyone else.
At least that’s one problem Superheavy won’t have to deal with.

SuperHeavy: SuperHeavy, CD review
SuperHeavy has an audably boisterous appeal.
3/5
By Andrew Perry
On paper, Mick Jagger’s latest supergroup, which also features Joss Stone, composer AR Rahman and ex-Eurythmic Dave Stewart, looks like some deranged dalliance among rock’s elite. In reality, the quintet’s debut is pretty good fun, fusing Stones-y raunch with brash Caribbean rhythms. Among an overload of vocalists, it’s Damian Marley who steals the show: his title track whoops of “soo-ooper ’eavy” typify the project’s laudably boisterous, if rather daft, appeal.

[www.telegraph.co.uk]



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Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: September 17, 2011 02:33

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Gazza
that Guardian review is quite funny - Worse, on Energy, you're struck by the sound of Mick Jagger rapping, a sound you fear will haunt you to the grave - grinning smiley

lmfao, thx Gazza. peace

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: ChefGuevara ()
Date: September 17, 2011 02:35

Didn't know that Shepard Fairey, the same designer that did the HOPE poster for the Obama campaign designed the Superheavy cover.

Just saw it on facebook.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: September 17, 2011 02:44

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nocomment
teaser for a 2nd official video for satyameva...

this is so everybody can practice for the singalong part of their shows...



this stuff is crap. bring back the rock and roll to IORR. For over-produced world music it is still only middle of the road, waay too much reverb and over done drum stuff in your face and meaningless words -What are they singing? . Ok for elevator music in Barbados but it won't be gracing our beautiful ear space here in coastal California. peace.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 17, 2011 02:49

Copyright © 2011, Los Angeles Times

Excerpted from:

[www.latimes.com]

SuperHeavy mixes up Jagger rock, Marley rhythms and more

By Randall Roberts

September 18, 2011

"The idea was to throw together a group of people that were willing to
experiment a bit," said Jagger, "doing this kind of crossover genre, and see
what came out. We'll just take a chance on it." A few unnamed musicians were
busy and declined, while others, in Jagger's words, "had their egos." Entourages
were prohibited.


Marley and Rahman committed, and the five converged at Henson Studios (a
compound that in past years served as home to Charlie Chaplin's studios and,
coincidentally, A&M Records) to merge the ideas of a superstar rock 'n' roll
vocalist, a synth-pop pioneer, a composer of Bollywood film scores, a blue-eyed
soul belter and Jamaican reggae royalty.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, especially considering that some of the five
were strangers to each other.

Marley, for example, going in only knew one Rolling Stones song, "(I Can't Get
No) Satisfaction." Rahman appreciated Bob Marley's work, but was unfamiliar
with both Damian and Stone's work. The Indian composer's training is in the
classical realm.

Jagger hadn't met Damian, but the Stones singer and Bob Marley were London
neighbors in the 1970s and used to record at the same Kingston studio. "That's
where I met Bob," Jagger said. "He was in a studio recording 'Catch a Fire' and
we were doing the overdubs of something — 'Black & Blue' maybe.'" (Note: it was,
in fact, "Goat's Head Soup," recorded, like "Catch a Fire," at Dynamic Sound
Studio in Jamaica.)

This unfamiliarity didn't worry Jagger or Stewart. "The idea was to get them
into a room and see what you get cooperating as writing and playing," said
Jagger. Augmented with a backing band that mostly featured a Jamaican rhythm
section, the five felt free to, according to Jagger, "put whatever we wanted on
top of it."

A few weeks later in a sound room at his Hollywood studio, Stewart sat in front
of a mixing board and started booming tracks from the sessions, some of which
extended to nearly an hour, with the five riffing, rhyming and toying with
ideas. "I thought that was important to catch the meeting of these people,"
Stewart said. He described the process as "kind of an impressionistic patchwork
of songs, lots of them, or jams, that we then put into focus.'"

Stewart, who said that so far there weren't plans for any SuperHeavy
performances, moved from the sound room to a video studio, where footage of the
sessions was being edited for a future project.
It showed Jagger and Stone
singing while Stewart, with ever-present beard and sunglasses, strummed along on
guitar. "It was a very natural and organic meeting of minds and musicality that
got refined as we got to know each other while playing with each other," Stewart
said. "It got more complex."

The result is a dozen songs that move from swaggering Stones style rock
( "Superheavy" ) to the groove-oriented "One Day." At times the product of this
culture clash borders on pastiche, and pushes dangerously close to Komar and
Melamid's 1997 project, "The World's Most Wanted Song," which created musical
ideas and instrumentation based on a poll of musical preferences. "Satyameva
Jayathe," for example, features Rahman's chanted opening, then moves into an
urgent dance hall rhythm and Jagger screaming something in Hindi. As the music
world has gotten smaller, though, these kinds of border-jumping creations have
increased.

But then, "Never Gonna Change" is a sweet ballad that sounds like a "Beggars
Banquet" outtake, and features one of Jagger's strongest vocal turns in years.
"Energy" is a Marley-propelled banger with a tag-team vocal hook from Jagger and
Stone, who display a magnetic rapport throughout the 12-song album.

"Yeah, he makes me laugh," said Stone of Jagger. "The great thing about Mick is
that he's got so much knowledge, and he's always sharing. And I'm always
listening. Whenever he thinks I'm not, I am, and I take it all on board."

Jagger, in fact, bought her a Shakespeare book during the sessions.

And at one point, Jagger recalled, he had an interaction with Rahman that
showcased another side of that knowledge. Rahman had brought in a curious
Middle Eastern stringed instrument and started playing it. The Stones singer
smiled broadly as he recounted being able to identify the instrument. "I was
very pleased with myself. I said, 'Nice santur part, A.R.' He said, 'How do you
know this?'"

Jagger replied that the instrument was popular among his peers in the 1960s.
"It was a very hippy thing to have this Persian classical instrument. Of course,
I hadn't heard it since 1967."

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 17, 2011 02:57

'SuperHeavy' with Jagger: a reggae album

Published: September 16, 2011 3:15 PM
By GLENN GAMBOA, Newsday

SuperHeavy -- Mick Jagger, Dave Stewart, Damien Marley, A.R. Rahman and Joss
Stone -- is full of surprises. The single "Miracle Worker" offers a bizarre
taste, with Marley toasting, "Don't be preposterous," in a call- and-response
with Stone. Given the band's membership, it's surprising how dominant Marley and
Rahman are on the sound of "SuperHeavy" (A&M). This is basically a reggae album,
with world beat tinges, with Jagger and Stone offering support. Perhaps the
biggest shock, though, is how well it works in "I Can't Take It No More."

GRADE B

BOTTOM LINE It really moves like Jagger

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: September 17, 2011 03:28

I think this thread is being hijacked by pro-Superheavy employees. Every time a comment that doesn't like it comes on, it gets bracketed by huge press release crap. whaty a drag. peace.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: SoulPlunderer ()
Date: September 17, 2011 03:45

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Naturalust
I think this thread is being hijacked by pro-Superheavy employees. Every time a comment that doesn't like it comes on, it gets bracketed by huge press release crap. whaty a drag. peace.

Yep, it couldn't possibly be that a lot of people disagree with you and are actually enjoying this music. You can hardly be surprised that the SuperHeavy thread, about the band SuperHeavy and their album called SuperHeavy features a few press stories about..... oh that's right, SuperHeavy!

Nah, must be a conspiracy or something. winking smiley

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: September 17, 2011 05:17

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SoulPlunderer
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Naturalust
I think this thread is being hijacked by pro-Superheavy employees. Every time a comment that doesn't like it comes on, it gets bracketed by huge press release crap. whaty a drag. peace.

Yep, it couldn't possibly be that a lot of people disagree with you and are actually enjoying this music. You can hardly be surprised that the SuperHeavy thread, about the band SuperHeavy and their album called SuperHeavy features a few press stories about..... oh that's right, SuperHeavy!

Nah, must be a conspiracy or something. winking smiley

I haven't seen the support you claim for this band on IORR. Most of the Stones fans don't care for it is my take. Otherwise you might see actual comments not just press clips from AP and "packaged" comments form the band members and crap. No one here that I respect has really shown any fanatisism toward this project. To each his own. I say bring on the Rock and Roll. SuperHeavy is hardly worth the energy to label conspiricy. Hijacking threads for this reason is more like standard sleazy record company tactics. peace.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: nocomment ()
Date: September 17, 2011 06:52

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Naturalust
No one here that I respect has really shown any fanatisism toward this project.





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Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: September 17, 2011 08:57

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nocomment
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Naturalust
No one here that I respect has really shown any fanatisism toward this project.


cool, thats pretty fantastic. But how can she hear/judge the music with all that stuff over her ears? peace.

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 17, 2011 11:43

Naturalust
No one here that I respect has really shown any fanatisism toward this project.


What's your problem, dear?
You don't like it - you are free don't visit this thread, nobody forces you
I started it with the intention to share news about SH and this what i do (obviously I like it). You're surprised and upset that thare so many views on this thread and looking for conspiracy theories - may be it more natural to suppose that people are interested in something that Jagger does.
On this board there are much more people who really like and respect Mick Jagger than write about it because when you dare express this sympathy you risk to undertake very unpleasent attacks. I understand people who prefer to shut up but this is not who I am. peace???

Re: Super Heavy with Mick Jagger
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: September 17, 2011 12:22

I really appreciate the efforts by the people copypasting the reviews and articles related to SuperHeavy-thing. It's great to have them in one place, nad easy to catch just by one button push. Nice little pieces of info gathered here and there, i.e. Jagger giving a Shakespeare book to Josh, that the project already had some other people in mind ("too busy" or "too much ego"grinning smiley). Those flashblacks from the past also bring a smile in to my face (CATCH A FIRE/GOAT'S HEAD SOAP; "The hippy Middle East instrument", etc.) There is so much cultural history invested there in that man. It is great that Jagger seems to be alright with his huge past theese days. Some years ago he almost didn't acknowledge its existence... By contrast, some Rolling Stones fans seem to still think that The Stones still exist like they used to do, andd all of this is just "side project". I think Mick jagger hasn't identified himself as a "Rolling Stone" for ages now... He is Sir Mick Jagger, you know.. who might occasionally put that Rolling Stones frontman role on and gather some awful amount of money, but most of the time he don't... If we leave the business side of things aside, The Stones activities are I suppose only one of the possible projects he might do...

- Doxa



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