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your right but its an eagles jersey my mistake , but i know for sure he wore a mariners jersey during that show
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Seen them on all tours since 71, When they played the MNews arena and Wembley arena in 2003 they were definatly NOT vegas, they were raw and at their best.
The Vegas stuff on this board is over the top.
I saw them in 1981 and they sucked. As far as I am concerned 81 was nothing but a blown opportunity. This was the Stones at their most famous, and most popular. The eyes of the world was on them like it never was before, they had no competition anymore, and they laid an egg. They played way to fast, the sound was way too thin, and they butchered their own songs. . I don't think there was one song from that tour that was played as good on stage then it was on record, except for JMI. Plus Jagger was unwatchable on that tour. After that although I loved their albums I thought they were nothing but hype as a live act. Look at the videos of 1981/82. You can see the dissappointment in the crowd. The only Stones tour I have ever seen where the crowd bored and uninterested.
You can go on and on about how much you like that it was just the Stones on stage in 1981, but what was coming out of the speakers wasn't good at all. I went to the concert with many people and they all agreed with exactly what I am saying. The movie of the tour confirmed it also.
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Really?? Well as I recall all the buzz around the 81 tour was it was the first tour with a corporate sponsor. And it was touring behind an album of rehashed old material for the most part. So don't fool yourself, that tour was about the Money for sure. From all accounts it was still a very fractious band. Ronnie banned from the backstage area, Keith and Mick fighting about the cherry picker, Keith and Mick just fighting. So what got them to make just enough peace to get them back on the road? MONEY. What got them to amp up the entire circus from the simple 78 tour? MONEY. Stones tours have always been about the money. It is just as they become more sophisticated, they became more savvy about how to extract more and more MONEy from the road.
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Really?? Well as I recall all the buzz around the 81 tour was it was the first tour with a corporate sponsor. And it was touring behind an album of rehashed old material for the most part. So don't fool yourself, that tour was about the Money for sure. From all accounts it was still a very fractious band. Ronnie banned from the backstage area, Keith and Mick fighting about the cherry picker, Keith and Mick just fighting. So what got them to make just enough peace to get them back on the road? MONEY. What got them to amp up the entire circus from the simple 78 tour? MONEY. Stones tours have always been about the money. It is just as they become more sophisticated, they became more savvy about how to extract more and more MONEy from the road.
I don't know if this is all completely true. Wood was never been banned from the backstage erea (where would he stay then? The parking lot?), and to all accounts (Wyman, Ian MacLagan, Wood, Richards, Bill Graham) they all enjoyed the '81 tour very much, everybody was in good spirits once the tour got rolling. Wood was partying a bit hard once in a while, that's true.
It wasn't until '87 or so that Keith started badmouthing Jagger in public, as he did with Life, and started saying 'I never liked this or that in such and so tour'. It was then that he suddenly started complaining about the cherry picker.
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Really?? Well as I recall all the buzz around the 81 tour was it was the first tour with a corporate sponsor. And it was touring behind an album of rehashed old material for the most part. So don't fool yourself, that tour was about the Money for sure. From all accounts it was still a very fractious band. Ronnie banned from the backstage area, Keith and Mick fighting about the cherry picker, Keith and Mick just fighting. So what got them to make just enough peace to get them back on the road? MONEY. What got them to amp up the entire circus from the simple 78 tour? MONEY. Stones tours have always been about the money. It is just as they become more sophisticated, they became more savvy about how to extract more and more MONEy from the road.
But these are all normal day-today remarks between guys who have lived on top of each other for many years, and have a deep musical bond. Keith isn;t going to adore everything Mick does, and viceversa. In 77 Jagger was seriously entertaining the idea of replacing Keith; we know why he was forced to think like that, bur some fans I know see this as unforgivable.Quote
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Really?? Well as I recall all the buzz around the 81 tour was it was the first tour with a corporate sponsor. And it was touring behind an album of rehashed old material for the most part. So don't fool yourself, that tour was about the Money for sure. From all accounts it was still a very fractious band. Ronnie banned from the backstage area, Keith and Mick fighting about the cherry picker, Keith and Mick just fighting. So what got them to make just enough peace to get them back on the road? MONEY. What got them to amp up the entire circus from the simple 78 tour? MONEY. Stones tours have always been about the money. It is just as they become more sophisticated, they became more savvy about how to extract more and more MONEy from the road.
I don't know if this is all completely true. Wood was never been banned from the backstage erea (where would he stay then? The parking lot?), and to all accounts (Wyman, Ian MacLagan, Wood, Richards, Bill Graham) they all enjoyed the '81 tour very much, everybody was in good spirits once the tour got rolling. Wood was partying a bit hard once in a while, that's true.
It wasn't until '87 or so that Keith started badmouthing Jagger in public, as he did with Life, and started saying 'I never liked this or that in such and so tour'. It was then that he suddenly started complaining about the cherry picker.
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I think it goes back a little further than that. In Barbara Charone's book, Keith badmouths Mick's 1975 tour outfits and such, saying "What does Mick need all that for?"
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2 things re the 81 tour:
Keith seemed very in control, and at the top of his game. His playing is not only stellar, he is carrying Ronnie.
What I don't get is how Ronnie cleaned up so well. Somehow Jo must have scrubbed him into shape every night. By all accounts he was very strung out, but I can't see the cracks (no pun intended). Anyone else I know who was on the pipe - you could tell it a mile away. Ron doesn't only not show it, he looked particularly sharp on the 81 tour IMO.
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Really?? Well as I recall all the buzz around the 81 tour was it was the first tour with a corporate sponsor. And it was touring behind an album of rehashed old material for the most part. So don't fool yourself, that tour was about the Money for sure. From all accounts it was still a very fractious band. Ronnie banned from the backstage area, Keith and Mick fighting about the cherry picker, Keith and Mick just fighting. So what got them to make just enough peace to get them back on the road? MONEY. What got them to amp up the entire circus from the simple 78 tour? MONEY. Stones tours have always been about the money. It is just as they become more sophisticated, they became more savvy about how to extract more and more MONEy from the road.
I don't know if this is all completely true. Wood was never been banned from the backstage erea (where would he stay then? The parking lot?), and to all accounts (Wyman, Ian MacLagan, Wood, Richards, Bill Graham) they all enjoyed the '81 tour very much, everybody was in good spirits once the tour got rolling. Wood was partying a bit hard once in a while, that's true.
It wasn't until '87 or so that Keith started badmouthing Jagger in public, as he did with Life, and started saying 'I never liked this or that in such and so tour'. It was then that he suddenly started complaining about the cherry picker.
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I think it goes back a little further than that. In Barbara Charone's book, Keith badmouths Mick's 1975 tour outfits and such, saying "What does Mick need all that for?"
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Stoneage
To stay relevant in popular music you'll have to produce hit singles or hit albums. "Start Me Up" and "Tattoo You" made the trick for them then. They have simply been unsuccesful in that department since then.
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To stay relevant in popular music you'll have to produce hit singles or hit albums. "Start Me Up" and "Tattoo You" made the trick for them then. They have simply been unsuccesful in that department since then.
This is the gospel truth. Sammy Davis Jr. hated "Candy Man" in the early 70s - but he declared there is nothing that beats a hit record.