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A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
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I never took any song seriously.............they are just youngsters who want to make a song................
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A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
I think a lot of "Vincent" is cheap sentimentality. The same way I think there is a big difference between "Wild Horses" and "Memory Motel" (I find the former deeply moving, but the latter rather maudlin and sentimental). I think Mr. McLean was a reasonably skilled pop craftsman who got lucky with a couple of mega-hits. Nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't make me bitter, just my opinion.
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
I think a lot of "Vincent" is cheap sentimentality. The same way I think there is a big difference between "Wild Horses" and "Memory Motel" (I find the former deeply moving, but the latter rather maudlin and sentimental). I think Mr. McLean was a reasonably skilled pop craftsman who got lucky with a couple of mega-hits. Nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't make me bitter, just my opinion.
You've got issues.
Plus the fact that you describe Memory Motel as maudlin and sentimental. Hello,what's the name of the song?Quote
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
I think a lot of "Vincent" is cheap sentimentality. The same way I think there is a big difference between "Wild Horses" and "Memory Motel" (I find the former deeply moving, but the latter rather maudlin and sentimental). I think Mr. McLean was a reasonably skilled pop craftsman who got lucky with a couple of mega-hits. Nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't make me bitter, just my opinion.
You've got issues.
Why? Because I find fault with Don Mclean and you don't?
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sweetcharmedlifePlus the fact that you describe Memory Motel as maudlin and sentimental. Hello,what's the name of the song?Quote
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
I think a lot of "Vincent" is cheap sentimentality. The same way I think there is a big difference between "Wild Horses" and "Memory Motel" (I find the former deeply moving, but the latter rather maudlin and sentimental). I think Mr. McLean was a reasonably skilled pop craftsman who got lucky with a couple of mega-hits. Nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't make me bitter, just my opinion.
You've got issues.
Why? Because I find fault with Don Mclean and you don't?
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
interesting interpretation - but waaaaaay off the mark, tele.
love the whole album, but especially vincent. about as perfectly a crafted song as i've ever heard.
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
interesting interpretation - but waaaaaay off the mark, tele.
love the whole album, but especially vincent. about as perfectly a crafted song as i've ever heard.
Not much to "interpret" regarding "American Pie". It was a screed against the 60s, as well as a love letter to the music of the 50s.
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A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
interesting interpretation - but waaaaaay off the mark, tele.
love the whole album, but especially vincent. about as perfectly a crafted song as i've ever heard.
Not much to "interpret" regarding "American Pie". It was a screed against the 60s, as well as a love letter to the music of the 50s.
i don't interpret it that way. i look at it as the loss of innocence of a musical era...and don't recognize any of the hatred for jagger that you do.
again, a wonderfully crafted song, lyrically and structurally....
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
interesting interpretation - but waaaaaay off the mark, tele.
love the whole album, but especially vincent. about as perfectly a crafted song as i've ever heard.
Not much to "interpret" regarding "American Pie". It was a screed against the 60s, as well as a love letter to the music of the 50s.
i don't interpret it that way. i look at it as the loss of innocence of a musical era...and don't recognize any of the hatred for jagger that you do.
again, a wonderfully crafted song, lyrically and structurally....
You're right about the loss of innocence. Certainly a theme of the song. But you don't recognize the hate? "As I watched him on the stage my hands were clenched in fists of rage. No angel born in hell, could break that Satan's spell". I didn't say it, he did.
Don't get yourself all worked up captian. I know those 5 posts in 4 weeks are a lot of work.Quote
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this song is dogpiss, jesus - i dislike it so much ive taken the trouble to type my message!!
what next, American Pie? lordy
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A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
interesting interpretation - but waaaaaay off the mark, tele.
love the whole album, but especially vincent. about as perfectly a crafted song as i've ever heard.
Not much to "interpret" regarding "American Pie". It was a screed against the 60s, as well as a love letter to the music of the 50s.
i don't interpret it that way. i look at it as the loss of innocence of a musical era...and don't recognize any of the hatred for jagger that you do.
again, a wonderfully crafted song, lyrically and structurally....
You're right about the loss of innocence. Certainly a theme of the song. But you don't recognize the hate? "As I watched him on the stage my hands were clenched in fists of rage. No angel born in hell, could break that Satan's spell". I didn't say it, he did.
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71Tele
A maudlin song of cheap sentimentality, just like his overrated "American Pie".
I think your quite alone in that opinion. Why all the bitterness?
I might be alone...As a Stones fan, his Jagger-demonizing in "American Pie" was quite offensive. It was a well-written poppy folk song, but at it's heart it's message was quite reactionary, a sort of blanket rejection of all the music that I loved, including the Beatles and the Stones (about Jagger: "as I watched him on the stage, my hands were clenched in fists of rage" - talk about "bitter"! Why the hate, Don?). Somehow the only "real" music to him "died" - and it was all from the Buddy Holly era. Nothing that came after was worthy, according to our Don.
interesting interpretation - but waaaaaay off the mark, tele.
love the whole album, but especially vincent. about as perfectly a crafted song as i've ever heard.
Not much to "interpret" regarding "American Pie". It was a screed against the 60s, as well as a love letter to the music of the 50s.
i don't interpret it that way. i look at it as the loss of innocence of a musical era...and don't recognize any of the hatred for jagger that you do.
again, a wonderfully crafted song, lyrically and structurally....
You're right about the loss of innocence. Certainly a theme of the song. But you don't recognize the hate? "As I watched him on the stage my hands were clenched in fists of rage. No angel born in hell, could break that Satan's spell". I didn't say it, he did.
it's a LYRIC and it's in keeping with the whole theme and idea of the fact that musical times had changed and the innocence of pop/rock music had died. it's not meant to be taken as an indictment of mick or the stones. i suppose cos he couldn't get up and dance to sgt peppers that he dislikes that album?