Going back to '69 and to the present, it seems the Stones always followed an American tour with a UK/European one (not sure about '70 but I know they did in '71).

I must say ABB was unique in that you had US/Canada/South America in '05-06
followed by UK/Europe summer '06 then back to the US/Canada in fall '06 followed by UK/Europe summer '07.

Why did they not tour UK/Europe in '79 following the Some Girls American tour of '78?


pleximaster

keith's drug bust and pending trial

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Going back to '69 and to the present, it seems the Stones always followed an American tour with a UK/European one (not sure about '70 but I know they did in '71).

I must say ABB was unique in that you had US/Canada/South America in '05-06
followed by UK/Europe summer '06 then back to the US/Canada in fall '06 followed by UK/Europe summer '07.

Why did they not tour UK/Europe in '79 following the Some Girls American tour of '78?


pleximaster

No reliable supplier of pharmaceutical grade cocaine in Europe at the time.

Here's a few threads about this:

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keith's drug bust and pending trial

when did his trial take place?


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keith's drug bust and pending trial

when did his trial take place?


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october 78 after the us tour....his sentence was carried out in april of '79

and I guess there was not enough time to organise a tour at that point.

And his sentence was the concert for the Blind?


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and I guess there was not enough time to organise a tour at that point.

And his sentence was the concert for the Blind?


plex

there wasn't anyway of knowing the outcome of what turned out to be the reduced charge and sentence of doing the shows for the blind (shoulda been for the deaf, of course), so i'm sure that factored into things. there was serious talk of replacing keith in those daze....

MT was waiting in the wings....

so the concert for the BLind was apr of 79?


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so the concert for the BLind was apr of 79?


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4-22-79 - two shows

Bill Wyman suffered a serious back injury from a fall after the last show of the 1978 tour so there was no question of a tour for him in 1979. Columbia Records had signed Ronnie as a solo artist on the strength of his Paris demos and paired him with Roy Thomas Baker to finish the album. The contract included tour support so Ronnie was going out on his own in 1979 and trying his best to take Keith and Charlie with him. Keith was still toying with releasing his covers album, BAD LUCK for Atlantic/EMI. Stu was encouraging Charlie to stick with Rocket 88. Mick was soured on his pending divorce and the situation with Keith. In hindsight, it's remarkable they still came together on and off to work on the EMOTIONAL RESCUE album.

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Bill Wyman suffered a serious back injury from a fall after the last show of the 1978 tour so there was no question of a tour for him in 1979.

but the tour would have been planned well before his injury - and it wasn't cos of the pending keith trial....

I think it was because no one would have recognized Mick, with that beard.

Is the Prodigal Son/Let It Rock clip from one of the benefit shows in Toronto?

Not that fortunate for Europe but I loved that it opened up the "New Barbarians" tour for the US. Those were some great party time concerts. I know alot of people were upset because at each stop the radio stations would play it up with "Special Guests" spots implying that Jagger and Dylan would show up. Some of my friends in Ft Worth were mad about it but I was thrilled with the show. It was a groove hearing Keith doing the Let's Go Steady/Worried Life Blues/Apt. # 9 sets.....

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Bill Wyman suffered a serious back injury from a fall after the last show of the 1978 tour so there was no question of a tour for him in 1979.

but the tour would have been planned well before his injury - and it wasn't cos of the pending keith trial....

Isnt this a contradiction from your first post when you said:
keith's drug bust and pending trial


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Bill Wyman suffered a serious back injury from a fall after the last show of the 1978 tour so there was no question of a tour for him in 1979.

but the tour would have been planned well before his injury - and it wasn't cos of the pending keith trial....

Isnt this a contradiction from your first post when you said:
keith's drug bust and pending trial


p

i don't see how. the trial was scheduled for october '78 and the stones were planning a potential life without keith at that point. wyman's injury couldn't have had an affect on tour plans that never existed.

I meant Wyman couldn't have toured in 1979 if they wanted to do so. If I recall correctly, the 1982 tour wasn't booked until rather late in the day (early 1982) that was why Mac was unavailable since in late December 1981 with an 1982 Stones tour only speculative, he signed to tour with Bonnie Raitt. Tours were not as lavish an undertaking in the seventies and early eighties as they became. I doubt Ronnie had arena dates for the Spring booked in October 1978 either. Things came together much quicker in those days. Less people involved, less hassle, and lower ticket prices made that possible.

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I meant Wyman couldn't have toured in 1979 if they wanted to do so. If I recall correctly, the 1982 tour wasn't booked until rather late in the day (early 1982) that was why Mac was unavailable since in late December 1981 with an 1982 Stones tour only speculative, he signed to tour with Bonnie Raitt. Tours were not as lavish an undertaking in the seventies and early eighties as they became. I doubt Ronnie had arena dates for the Spring booked in October 1978 either. Things came together much quicker in those days. Less people involved, less hassle, and lower ticket prices made that possible.

stop! you're making me weep.

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Bill Wyman suffered a serious back injury from a fall after the last show of the 1978 tour so there was no question of a tour for him in 1979.

but the tour would have been planned well before his injury - and it wasn't cos of the pending keith trial....

Isnt this a contradiction from your first post when you said:
keith's drug bust and pending trial


p

i don't see how. the trial was scheduled for october '78 and the stones were planning a potential life without keith at that point. wyman's injury couldn't have had an affect on tour plans that never existed.

Was Darryl still too young at that point to assume the mantel?

[Rocky and StonesTod stop speaking and turn to hurl bricks at treaclefingers.]

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Bill Wyman suffered a serious back injury from a fall after the last show of the 1978 tour so there was no question of a tour for him in 1979.

but the tour would have been planned well before his injury - and it wasn't cos of the pending keith trial....

Isnt this a contradiction from your first post when you said:
keith's drug bust and pending trial


p

i don't see how. the trial was scheduled for october '78 and the stones were planning a potential life without keith at that point. wyman's injury couldn't have had an affect on tour plans that never existed.

Was Darryl still too young at that point to assume the mantel?

he still is

Too much other shit going on, the Stones really were at a crossroads. Like Rocky said, its amazing they did anything from 77-80.

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[Rocky and StonesTod stop speaking and turn to hurl bricks at treaclefingers.]

Now that, is just plain mean, and a little violent.

You could at least of had the decency, to hurl 'stones' instead of 'bricks'.><

Violent would have been if we actually hit you. I just said we threw them at you.

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Rocky Dijon
Violent would have been if we actually hit you. I just said we threw them at you.

I think violence is the actual act of throwing. Battery would probably be the definition of making contact.

So, as you didn't even actually throw, perhaps we could define this as 'virtual violence'.

Sorry, but I think I may have just virtually bitch-slapped you!

And to think it all started because I found your Darryl Jones remark funny.

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And to think it all started because I found your Darryl Jones remark funny.

Sorry about that...I can tend to be overly analytical!!