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Sipuncula
I know this is about six years too late, but I'm on a vinyl kick and I just got ABB and gave it another chance (yes, I know it's digital sourced and should sound similar). It would be a pretty good record with a few clunkers cut out, but above all, here is a prime example of something that was killed by its production (mastering?--I'm no sonic engineer). This one might be the poster child of how to ruin a record by compression. It's tedious and loud. I hate the '80s slick production of Steel Wheels, but this 2000s "loudness" trend might actually be worse to my ears. Voodoo Lounge is warm and dynamic, and a joy to listen to by comparison. I might like ABB just as well if it didn't make me want to f*cking pull the power cord because of the overall sound.
Any sound experts care to comment? Maybe ABB deserves a remaster.
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Sipuncula
I'm enjoying the ABKCO era stuff tremendously (got the boxed set vol. 1) , but I've been avoiding the Universal set because I've heard it's got the compression treatment style ala. Bigger Bang.
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treaclefingers
I have the ABKCO Box arriving next week myself!
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Sipuncula
here is a prime example of something that was killed by its production (mastering?)
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dcba
If you're a newbie get a quick education on bad mastering trends the record industry got : go to Yotube and search "loudness war" .
Plenty of vids, graphs, interviews of (disgusted) sound engineers that'll enable you why ABB and the awful crop of 2009 "remasters" ("over-masters" would be more accurate) is tripe...
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Sipuncula
I know this is about six years too late, but I'm on a vinyl kick and I just got ABB and gave it another chance (yes, I know it's digital sourced and should sound similar). It would be a pretty good record with a few clunkers cut out, but above all, here is a prime example of something that was killed by its production (mastering?--I'm no sonic engineer). This one might be the poster child of how to ruin a record by compression. It's tedious and loud. I hate the '80s slick production of Steel Wheels, but this 2000s "loudness" trend might actually be worse to my ears. Voodoo Lounge is warm and dynamic, and a joy to listen to by comparison. I might like ABB just as well if it didn't make me want to f*cking pull the power cord because of the overall sound.
Any sound experts care to comment? Maybe ABB deserves a remaster.
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Sipuncula
It's tedious and loud.
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Sipuncula
It's tedious and loud.
Rock *should* sound loud.
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Sipuncula
It's tedious and loud.
Rock *should* sound loud.
The 'Dirty Work' album sounds loudest of 'em all.
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Sipuncula
It's tedious and loud.
Rock *should* sound loud.
The 'Dirty Work' album sounds loudest of 'em all.
I haven't heard it in a long time, but I doubt that. I did not notice a particularly heavy sound at the time, but I agree that ABB is loud.
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Sleepy City
But I'm not a big fan of rock music anyway, much preferring the production / sound / music of the Andrew Loog Oldham era.
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slew
I actually like the sound of ABB - in fact I think its a really good album.
Wild Horses isn't on it. Furthermore, which US version of Rewind are you comparing it to - CBS or Atlantic?Quote
Nikolai
I'd also recommend the UK/European pressing of Rewind for the best possible sounding versions of Brown Sugar and Wild Horses.
The Virgin Dirty Work doesn't even come close to the loudness of ABB.Quote
Sleepy City
The 'Dirty Work' album sounds loudest of 'em all.
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FreeBirdThe Virgin Dirty Work doesn't even come close to the loudness of ABB.Quote
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The 'Dirty Work' album sounds loudest of 'em all.
I was merely talking about mastering.Quote
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FreeBirdThe Virgin Dirty Work doesn't even come close to the loudness of ABB.Quote
Sleepy City
The 'Dirty Work' album sounds loudest of 'em all.
And Liliwhite of U2 fame is hardly the producer for heavy rock.
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dcba
If you're a newbie get a quick education on bad mastering trends the record industry got : go to Yotube and search "loudness war" .
Plenty of vids, graphs, interviews of (disgusted) sound engineers that'll enable you why ABB and the awful crop of 2009 "remasters" ("over-masters" would be more accurate) is tripe...
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FreeBirdI was merely talking about mastering.Quote
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FreeBirdThe Virgin Dirty Work doesn't even come close to the loudness of ABB.Quote
Sleepy City
The 'Dirty Work' album sounds loudest of 'em all.
And Liliwhite of U2 fame is hardly the producer for heavy rock.
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dcba
If you're a newbie get a quick education on bad mastering trends the record industry got : go to Yotube and search "loudness war" .
Plenty of vids, graphs, interviews of (disgusted) sound engineers that'll enable you why ABB and the awful crop of 2009 "remasters" ("over-masters" would be more accurate) is tripe...
I get his point, but wish he hadn't used such horrible music to demonstrate it. That crap sounds bad at any loudness level.
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Nikolai
In fact, I think it was a poster called Kowalski who made a case for the CBS CDs being the best versions of the 1971-90 back catalogue.