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Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: jigsaw69 ()
Date: December 20, 2022 16:17

Best version is Love you Live

Funky bass, groovy drums, mid-70s big n meaty guitars, Jagger rock n rollin n swaggerin all over it......

Hot Stuff ?? Cant Get Enough y'all !!!!!!!!!

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: MelBelli ()
Date: December 20, 2022 16:17

El Mocambo, by a mile. Blew me away when I first heard it.

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: December 20, 2022 16:59

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I personally love the 1994 version with all the different horn sections added. Way better than 2002 imo. Of course the 1976 versions are awesome too.

The playing is good, and the horns are cool, but I don't like that they omitted the verses.





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Never heard that before, thanks! I liked it. Sounded surprisingly fresh. They didn't try just to copy the original, but used the resources of the current band rather nicely. True that they were omitting (hot) stuff, but I liked the idea how they re-shaped the vocals. They sounded like having fun.

- Doxa

I liked the groove and the playing as well.

However, Mick didn't sing any of the four verses here («Every day I need another dose...» / « want to tell all my friends in London...» / «All the people in New York City...» / «To everybody in Jamaica...»)

I wonder why? confused smiley

I think he had a total blank when the track started.

And what an awful version it is....man those horns are horrible.

Mathijs

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: December 20, 2022 19:53

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I personally love the 1994 version with all the different horn sections added. Way better than 2002 imo. Of course the 1976 versions are awesome too.

The playing is good, and the horns are cool, but I don't like that they omitted the verses.





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Never heard that before, thanks! I liked it. Sounded surprisingly fresh. They didn't try just to copy the original, but used the resources of the current band rather nicely. True that they were omitting (hot) stuff, but I liked the idea how they re-shaped the vocals. They sounded like having fun.

- Doxa

I liked the groove and the playing as well.

However, Mick didn't sing any of the four verses here («Every day I need another dose...» / « want to tell all my friends in London...» / «All the people in New York City...» / «To everybody in Jamaica...»)

I wonder why? confused smiley

I think he had a total blank when the track started.

And what an awful version it is....man those horns are horrible.

Mathijs

I was actually there, and, yes, it sounded really fresh and the groove came over really, really well. From what I remember from the rehearsals Mick did not have a blank, it was planned like this - just a different (new) version, and over the PA the horns really added something. Pity that they did not keep it in the set, most likely due to the only lukewarm reaction from the crowd...

But, of course, the El Mocambo version beats everything else hands down.

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: December 20, 2022 22:54

I like El Mocambo. Great Wood guitar

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: DiamondDog7 ()
Date: December 21, 2022 00:05

Why I prefer 1976's live version?

    [*] The way Jagger moves on stage
    [*] Mic sharing between Jagger and Richards
    [*] Tight drum play by Charlie
    [*] Groovy percussion by Ollie Brown
    [*] The phaser guitar sounds of Richards
    [*] The funk groove was much better in the seventies
    [*] Ronnie plays a fantastic solo in 1976

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: December 21, 2022 01:19

frankfurt for my favorite version with video and of course el mocamabo is unbeatable as the obvious single best performance ever

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: December 21, 2022 02:41

The studio version blows away all live versions - it's just one of those tracks that doesn't translate to the stage very well - "Shattered" is another. Post 1969 "Satisfaction" doesn't either.

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 21, 2022 05:28

What!!!???

Those Paris Honky Tonk Women are brilliant!!!!

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: December 21, 2022 06:38

Tower Theatre 2002
Upper Darby PA



Jumping Jack Flash/You Got Me Rocking/Sad Sad Sad/Hand Of Fate/No Expectations/Hot Stuff/Everybody Needs Somebody To Love/Heart Of Stone/Going To A Go Go/Love Train/Band introduction/Slipping Away/ Before They Make Me Run/It’s Only Rock’n Roll/Rocks Off/Stray Cat Blues/Can‘t You Hear Me Knocking/Honky Tonk Women/Start Me Up/Brown Sugar/Tumbling Dice

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: deardoctor ()
Date: December 21, 2022 15:04

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Tower Theatre 2002
Upper Darby PA



Jumping Jack Flash/You Got Me Rocking/Sad Sad Sad/Hand Of Fate/No Expectations/Hot Stuff/Everybody Needs Somebody To Love/Heart Of Stone/Going To A Go Go/Love Train/Band introduction/Slipping Away/ Before They Make Me Run/It’s Only Rock’n Roll/Rocks Off/Stray Cat Blues/Can‘t You Hear Me Knocking/Honky Tonk Women/Start Me Up/Brown Sugar/Tumbling Dice

This is probably my most favourite setlist ever!



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Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: December 21, 2022 20:42

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I personally love the 1994 version with all the different horn sections added. Way better than 2002 imo. Of course the 1976 versions are awesome too.

The playing is good, and the horns are cool, but I don't like that they omitted the verses.





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Tank you, completely missed this one. Love it. One of the very few occasions in which they tried to rework their own songs (Devil, satisfaction at leeds, the recent slow 19th nervous breakdown are the only other I can remember).

C

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Date: December 21, 2022 23:43

Stray Cat Blues (Ya-Yas)

Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: DiamondDog7 ()
Date: December 22, 2022 01:09

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The studio version blows away all live versions - it's just one of those tracks that doesn't translate to the stage very well - "Shattered" is another. Post 1969 "Satisfaction" doesn't either.

I understand. And I do love the video promo. 'Swagger Jagger' all the way.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: drwatts ()
Date: December 22, 2022 01:15

It might not be the best but Frankfurt is so damn sleazy. Love it.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: DiamondDog7 ()
Date: December 22, 2022 01:36

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It might not be the best but Frankfurt is so damn sleazy. Love it.

I agree. That's why I prefer the 70s versions of this song; sleazy, funky, raw, groovy.

The later versions (90s, 00s) are too slick, slow, different.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: December 22, 2022 08:12

The bass just thuds along. No funk, no invention. Every line the same.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: MonkeyMan2000 ()
Date: December 22, 2022 10:02

Yes, Hot Stuff is a special guitar driven type of Funk like you hear it on Parliament/Funkadelic records. It needs to be dirty and sleazy. Those later versions capture none of that and sound like something you'd put under a dubious commercial.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Father Ted ()
Date: December 22, 2022 14:12

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I really wish I could agree with the above posts, but Hot Stuff leaves me stone cold. A flaccid beat, directionless melody, and forced vocals are all I can hear. The sound of a band that's lost its way.

Drew

Yep for sure. Just another attempt to try and sound relevant.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Rambler62 ()
Date: December 22, 2022 14:26

Great Track from a great Album! I Prüfer the 76 and the EL MOCAMBO Versions!

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: DiamondDog7 ()
Date: December 22, 2022 15:46

Still love this studio version and the video promo. Funky Jagger all over the floor!




Re: Hot Stuff - the best live version?
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: December 26, 2022 04:58




Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 26, 2022 06:04

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24FPS
The bass just thuds along. No funk, no invention. Every line the same.

LOL that's the very precision of bass! It IS funky. No invention? You want invention, listen to The Meters. It can only go so far. Hot Stuff is way up there.

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: December 26, 2022 06:07

For years I thought it was

Music lighting by the fire

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: micktayloryears ()
Date: January 2, 2023 03:17

that Harvey Mandel was incredible, my lord... that solo is like... if there's such a thing as Asian Jazz Fusion, that's it...

it's my personal belief that BB wasn't an "audition album" but that they needed two session players to finish off the songs meant for MT...

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: April 12, 2023 01:53

So much Stuff threads right now, I just had to bump this smoking smiley

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: April 12, 2023 03:03

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micktayloryears
that Harvey Mandel was incredible, my lord... that solo is like... if there's such a thing as Asian Jazz Fusion, that's it...

it's my personal belief that BB wasn't an "audition album" but that they needed two session players to finish off the songs meant for MT...
Yes, Hand of Fate, Hot Stuff , Memory Motel, Worried About You.



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Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Date: April 12, 2023 10:47

I think Keith and Ronnie have proven pretty well that they can do good rhythm parts, licks and leads on Memory Motel and those other songs live smiling smiley



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Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: Meise ()
Date: April 12, 2023 11:19

It's never been one of my favs. Honestly, I never really got into that number. The lyrics are extremely weak, the riff's sort of okay but not more.
I haven't figured out why it was used as opener for an album. Possibly the influence of Billy Preston ...

Re: Track Talk: Hot Stuff
Posted by: DiamondDog7 ()
Date: July 12, 2023 23:23





Another live version from 1976.

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