Aren't there any pics or something of those sessions? Of course I read all those stories about conflicts between Richards and Taylor. But I'm very curious about dates, takes and pictures during those sessions? :-)






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Has the original IORR demo recorded at Ronnie's house ever appeared ?

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Here's a few.

Sorry... I mean the whole album. Not just the song. ;-)

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Here's a few.

Those are GHS sessions. Also very cool. But not the ones I'm looking for. Thanks anyways, Stones78.

No, those are from the IORR sessions, it's the Musicland Studios in Munich. GHS was recorded in Jamaica and there are a lot of pictures of those sessions as well.

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stones78
No, those are from the IORR sessions, it's the Musicland Studios in Munich. GHS was recorded in Jamaica and there are a lot of pictures of those sessions as well.

They only recorded basic tracks of a few songs in Jamaica. According to Wyman, the sessions in Jamaica where dreadful and yielded nothing. GHS was recorded most in Island Recording Studios, London, May and June 1973.

Mathijs

According to one of those Uncut Rolling Stones special issues IORNR started out to be Side A covers Side B live tracks from the 73 tour.

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According to one of those Uncut Rolling Stones special issues IORNR started out to be Side A covers Side B live tracks from the 73 tour.

I remember them even officially announcing this at the time (yes, that's how f'n old I am).

So that's actually true then! Considering how different that was for them to do at that point (what was the last album with a lot of covers on it? Out Of Our Heads?) I figured that magazine was not pulling any kind of a prank in saying/revealing that. They must've done, what, at least five covers for one side, right? So maybe they actually did more. We know of Drift Away and obviously Ain't Too Proud To Beg. It would be great if they actually decided to release it with the original intent - stellar sonic quality of the 1973 tour of course being the better part of the release.

With the amount of LPs they've released, what, 26 or so, barring various comps and live albums, why not dig into the vaults and release some of the stuff that's just laying around. Why not. It's as simple as why they keep touring - because they can. They need to smarten up.

Oddly they might be considered more relevant (if not so more in a historic sense than anything) if they did release some of the unreleased gems they have in the vaults (preferably without any new overdubs, ha ha). Of course, their relevance pretty much stopped after Exile, got a shot in the arm with Some Girls and then Tattoo You was it. Since then any influence they've had on bands is all the older albums. In terms of actual relevance that is, not just because they're still going or 'of the moment' like how some people think the Black Eyed Peas are relevant because they're 'of the moment'! They're not! Are they truly influencing anything or anyone? Other than people's money leaving their wallets, I think not.

Etcetera.

An interesting article by Mick Wall on the IORR sessions in the latest "Classic Rock UK" issue #334 dated December 2024

"(...) The
Stones would do their own covers album, he
decided. Unlike Bowie’s mid-60s nostalgia trip,
though, the Stones would focus on timeless
blues and soul yardsticks.

Two weeks in November were booked at
Musicland Studios in Munich. There the Stones
put their familiar stamp on quickfire stuff like
Jimmy Reed’s Shame, Shame, Shame, which
they’d done in their club days (and ripped off
for Little By Little, the B-side of Not Fade Away,
in 1964). They tackled oddities like Trouble’s
A-Comin, an obscure Chi-Lites album track from
1970, and embarrassed themselves with an
awkwardly pale imitation of Drift Away, the
rock’n’soul classic that had just been a huge US
hit for Dobie Gray. The only cover that really
popped was their proto-punk
version of Ain’t Too Proud To Beg,
a signature hit from 1966 for
Motown stars The Temptations.(...)"

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^ Interesting. Thanks for sharing!

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No Mick Taylor?

As you probably know by now, it's on the Fully Finished Studio Outtakes

While Mick Taylor was getting his septum fixed

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An interesting article by Mick Wall on the IORR sessions in the latest "Classic Rock UK" issue #334 dated December 2024

"(...) The
Stones would do their own covers album, he
decided. Unlike Bowie’s mid-60s nostalgia trip,
though, the Stones would focus on timeless
blues and soul yardsticks.

Two weeks in November were booked at
Musicland Studios in Munich. There the Stones
put their familiar stamp on quickfire stuff like
Jimmy Reed’s Shame, Shame, Shame, which
they’d done in their club days (and ripped off
for Little By Little, the B-side of Not Fade Away,
in 1964). They tackled oddities like Trouble’s
A-Comin, an obscure Chi-Lites album track from
1970, and embarrassed themselves with an
awkwardly pale imitation of Drift Away, the
rock’n’soul classic that had just been a huge US
hit for Dobie Gray. The only cover that really
popped was their proto-punk
version of Ain’t Too Proud To Beg,
a signature hit from 1966 for
Motown stars The Temptations.(...)"

This is from a Jagger interview right before the 1975 tour:

He later acknowledged that the band would probably play a pair of songs from the Stones unfinished Munich recorded album, and hinted at 'Fingerprint File' as one of his selections from the last album. Spies in Montauk talk about a Stones recording – and possible live version of – 'Shame Shame Shame', the Shirley hit from last winter, but none of it was definite.

I think they're mixing the Reed number up with Shirley & Company. That's not the only place I read that.

On doing "Drift Away"; it may have been too soon and too big (the song was a smash Hit in 1973) to cover it. Usually the Stones cover obscure songs (Red rooster, Time is on my side etc...) or songs that were popular long time ago like Harlem Shuffle(1963/ 1986). But that should not tarnished the musical achievement.
Drift Away by the Stones has great guitar arrangments, a good groove and Mick Jagger is believable.

Here's some great pictures of the Stones 1973 - 1976 from Talo Tapani, including pics from 1973 Rotterdam Rehearsals and 1975 Musicland studio.

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Mathijs

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Mathijs
Here's some great pictures of the Stones 1973 - 1976 from Talo Tapani, including pics from 1973 Rotterdam Rehearsals and 1975 Musicland studio.

[www.globalimageworks.com]

Mathijs

Looks like both Richards and Jaggers guitars are plugged into a Wah. Jagger appears to be playing Taylor's guitar actually.

I can't see all Taylor's gear, but it looks like a Colorsound Wah/Fuzz

Awful clothes!

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Awful clothes!

Well, it’s the 1970’s! Every decade’s ‘fashion’ looks naff in hindsight. I do agree with you, by the way. Actually, Mick Taylor’s jumper somewhat reminds me of the record design of Bill Wyman’s latest album.

Yep, some pretty cool pics over there !

Here's one a "demarked" from Musicland 73



And from the Rotterdam 1973 Rehearsals



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Yep, some pretty cool pics over there !

Here's one a "demarked" from Musicland 73



And from the Rotterdam 1973 Rehearsals

I never could imagine that Mick Taylor( second right) would end up in this godforsaken place in Holland.

But then Dutch football player Dennis Bergkamp was nicknamed "the Non-Flying Dutchman", because of his fear of flying. God knows where he lives by now.



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Nice pictures from Tapani Talo, many of them never seen before.

Still I think the ones with Nicky and Taylor must be Musicland 1974, not 1973 (Both of them were absent during Munich 1973 sessions). Preston was there late 1973, as the pictures above shows, and Taylor and Nicky early 1974, and no Billy.

Also, Nicky in 1975 in Musicland? It must be from early 1974, or maybe december first sessions for B&B.

Great shots from Rotterdam. Do someone recognize whose drum set is the one with two bass drums and extra toms. It reads Charlie's, but nooo, must be from someone else's session

Thanks for the link Mathijs, and gotdablouse for demarking, already cooking some ideas for the artwork. Hope some nice day those Rotterdam tapes will appear in better quality

Cheers, Dejan

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JordyLicks96
Musicland Studios, November 1973

Who is that in the 3rd pic in the grey and diagonally red striped jumper? Looks like an old porn star !!

Rod

It's MJ, holding Les Paul custom with brown pants and silly cars on jumper. On some pictures Wyman also wears similar designed jumper, so maybe that was some kind of inner joke between them

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It's MJ, holding Les Paul custom with brown pants and silly cars on jumper. On some pictures Wyman also wears similar designed jumper, so maybe that was some kind of inner joke between them

NOT MJ with his back to camera. The guy that’s facing the camera to the right of Ian as you look at the picture. With the moustache…that’s not MJ.

Rod

The guy with the moustache is Giorgio Moroder, «the father of disco».