MICK JAGGER and KEITH RICHARDS's on/off feud has handed the ROLLING STONES bandmates the top spot on a new list of warring rockers.
The duo has beaten Simon & Garfunkel to the number one position on Rolling Stone magazine's new Greatest Rock Feuds Of All Time countdown.
The publication's editors handed the Brits top place following the pair's recent falling out over extracts in Richards' new biography Life, in which the guitarist mocked the frontman's "tiny dodger", among a series of surprising jibes.
The top five list is:
1. Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
2. Paul Simon & Art Garfunkel
3. Steven Tyler & Joe Perry (Aerosmith)
4. Roger Daltrey & Pete Townshend (The Who)
5. Ray & Dave Davies (The Kinks).

the original article in the Rolling Stone

Mick Jagger and Keith Richards' long-dormant feud flared up with the publication of Keith's memoir, Life, in October, in which he mocked Jagger's "tiny dodger" and made many other shocking swipes. The Glimmer Twins will probably make peace in time for their next world tour, but rock history is filled with bands whose members just couldn't keep the peace. Here's a look at 10 more of them.

Simon & Garfunkel: Paul and Art Take Their Feud Public
Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel's rocky relationship hit a low point in the mid 1980's when Simon erased Garfunkel's vocals from a planned reunion disc and released it as a solo set. Art took the high road at their induction ceremony into the Hall of Fame in 1990. "I want to thank most of all the person who has most enriched my life by putting these great songs through me," he said. "My friend Paul here." With a smirk on his face, Paul walked up to the podium. "Arthur and I agree about almost nothing," he said. "But it's true, I have enriched his life quite a bit, now that I think about it." Eleven years later Paul was inducted as a solo artist. "I want to thank Art Garfunkel and say that I regret the ending of our friendship, and I hope that some day before we die we will make peace with each other," he said, then added, pausing for comedic effect, "No rush." In 2003 they hit the road for the highly lucrative Old Friends reunion tour. The duo had an American tour booked for the summer of 2010, but they had to yank it when Garfunkel was diagnosed with vocal chord paresis. He recently told Rolling Stone that he hopes to reschedule it for next summer.

Aerosmith: The 'American Idol' Meltdown
Over their 40-year career, the members of Aerosmith have variously survived heroin addiction, cancer, horrific onstage accidents (Steven falling off the stage and breaking his shoulder last year being the most memorable) and the (temporary) defection of guitarists Joe Perry and Brad Whitford. American Idol, however, might be their downfall. "It's a reality show designed to get people to watch that station and sell advertising," Perry recently told a Calgary newspaper, adding that band first heard that frontman Steven Tyler was going to be a judge through the media. "It's one step above Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I'll tell you one thing, when we put this band together, this is not something that he would do. It's his business, but I don't want Aerosmith's name involved with it. We have nothing to do with it." Aerosmith wrapped a tumultuous tour in September; the group has said it's contemplating hiring a new singer.

The Who: Roger and Pete Battle It Out In The Press

In 1975 Pete Townshend vented his frustrations with the Who to the NME: "We've become a golden oldies group," he said. "I can tell you that when we were gigging in this country at the early part of this year I was thoroughly depressed. I honestly feel that the Who were going on stage every night and copying what the Who used to be." Frontman Roger Daltrey blasted back a few months later. "It really took a lot of my Who energy out after reading that," he said. "Pete's talked himself up his own ass. There are quite a lot of disillusioned fans and disenchanted kids right about now. The Who weren't bad on that tour, but I think we've done some gigs where Townshend was bad." The two patched things up for an album and tour later that year.

The Kinks: Fifty Years Of Brotherly Hate

Ray and Dave Davies have been blasting each other in the press ever since they formed the Kinks in the early sixties, but in recent years their conflict has gotten especiallly nasty. "Ray's an @#$%&," Dave recently told the Daily Mail . "You've heard of vampires, well, Ray sucks me dry of ideas, emotions and creativity. It's toxic for me to be with him. He's a control freak." The brothers haven't performed together since 1996, and that's unlikely to change anytime soon


The Beatles: John and Paul Feud Through Song

When the Beatles split in 1970, John Lennon and Paul McCartney began feuding in the press, but they saved the harshest words their for songs. "The freaks was right when they said you was dead," Lennon sang on 1971's "How Do You Sleep." "The only thing you did was 'Yesterday' ... The sound you make is Muzak to my ears. How do you sleep?" George Harrison played guitar on the track, so it was clear what side he was taking. Lennon and McCartney reconciled in later years, even recording together in a coke-fueled, infamously disastrous session in 1974 — but they remained distant up until Lennon's death in 1980.

Pink Floyd: Dave Steals Roger's Pig

In 1987 Roger Waters toured separately from the rest of Pink Floyd, while the group went to court over the rights to the band's name. "If one of us was going to be called Pink Floyd, it's me," Waters told Rolling Stone at the time. "That's my pig [on their stage]. That's my plane crashing," he said, referring to the props for the Wall tour. He also took pot shots at Floyd's 1988 album A Momentary Lapse of Reason. "[David] Gilmour's lyrics are very third-rate," he said. "They'll never be as good as mine." Gilmour felt he had every right to continue without Waters — something a judge later agreed on. "I am an extremely stubborn person," Gilmour told Rolling Stone. "I will not be forced out of something I consider to be partly mine." In 2005 Waters and Gilmour finally made peace and performed a four-song set at Live 8.

The Everly Brothers: Rock's First Sibling Rivalry

Don and Phil Everly are the original feuding brothers of rock and roll. Tensions reached a boiling point in the summer of 1973 at a gig in Buena Park, California. Phil Everly threw his guitar down and stormed off the stage during a performance of "Cathy's Clown," leaving Don to tell the stunned audience the group was finished (they reformed 10 years later). But unlike many rock stars, they've largely abstained from bashing each other in the press. In 2003, Paul Simon, who counts the Everlys as his biggest influence, talked them into touring with Simon & Garfunkel. "It was hilarious that the four of us were doing this tour, given our collective histories of squabbling," Simon told Rolling Stone. "Don and Phil hadn't seen each other in about three years. They met in the parking lot before the first gig." When the tour ended, the brothers went their separate ways and haven't performed together since.

Oasis: Liam Finally Pushes Noel Too Far

It's unclear exactly happened backstage at the Rock en Seine festival in Paris in August 2009, but nobody disputes that Noel and Liam Gallagher had such a horrific fight that they refused to take the stage. Some reports suggested that Liam smashed one of Noel's guitars in the midst of a vicious brawl, but neither side has ever confirmed that. Fans wrote it off as yet another fight — until Noel posted a note on the band's web site later in the week. "I have been forced to leave the Manchester rock 'n' roll pop group Oasis," he wrote. "I feel you have the right to know that the level of verbal and violent intimidation towards me, my family, friends and comrades has become intolerable." Over a year later there's no sign they plan on patching things up, and Liam just released his first solo track.

Guns N' Roses: Axl Calls Slash a 'Cancer'

Axl Rose hasn't had any kind words for Slash since the original Guns N' Roses line-up dissolved in the mid Nineties, but he was harsher than ever before in a 2009 interview with longtime friend Del James. "Personally I consider Slash a cancer and better removed, avoided — and the less anyone heard of him or his supporters, the better," he said. Slash didn't appreciate the remark. "I lost my mom to cancer," he said. "That was a little bit of hard rhetoric at that particular time, but it's typical Axl stuff."



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following the pair's recent falling out over extracts in Richards' new biography Life

Really ? Cool. Is there anything known about a new "falling out" between Mick and Keith because of Keith's book ???

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>> Is there anything known about a new "falling out" between Mick and Keith <<

about as much as is known about Mick's "dodger" :E

That is ridiculous. They are nowhere near the top. Probably Davies boys or even better the Fogerty boys.

The article in RS is funny. It's all the joke.
As for "falling out" we dont know anything but I don't think Mick is overwhelmingly happy about Keith's book.

Another crappy list.

Axl - Slash
Rogert Waters - PF
Lennon - Macca
Ozzy - Black Sabbath
All of the guys in Yes (for centuries)
Steve Hacket and Phil Collins

Err the Everly Brothers, Noel & Liam Gallagher.

NickB

You can't always get what you want.....

www.myspace.com/thesonkings

Wot, no Oasis?

I have one to add, after seeing the documentary "Legends of the Canyon":
Stephen Stills and Neil Young, both vying for the lead guitar role.

At least Mick and Keith kept their fights offstage--I think.

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As for "falling out" we dont know anything

Correct.
.... LOL .... I think this is the first time that I agree with you

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It looks like anything The Stones do this year will reach #1...

- Doxa

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As for "falling out" we dont know anything

Correct.
.... LOL .... I think this is the first time that I agree with you

It means our relations develop slowly but constantly

Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony vs the Van Halen Brothers. Oh and Dave Lee Roth vs the Van Halen Brothers. Oh and Sammy Hagar vs Dave Lee Roth. How fractured is that band?

Don't you just love ACDC - none of that bullshit

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Another crappy list.


Steve Hacket and Phil Collins

what was the Hackett/Collins thing about? I can guess....musical direction?

Davey Payne (saxophonist) and the whole of the rest of the band - often - including Ian who was crippled with Polio - (Ian Dury & The Blockheads). A German journalist genuinely thought - apparently - that the head butting going on at the back of the stage was part of the act...(headbutt......carry on playing......as you do...)..brilliant saxophonist though (IMO)............



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The last time the Stones' two songwriters ever feuded with each other to the fullest was back in 1985-86, when Mick wanted to have a solo career, and Keith had said "If Mick tours without the band, I'll slit his throat." However, the genesis of all this could go back as far as 1980, because for some reason (I don't know why) they never toured in support of Emotional Rescue. There were also no tours for 1983's Undercover (their last studio LP for Atlantic Records), or for 1986's Dirty Work (their first LP for Columbia Records).

And what did Mick gain for all his troubles? Not so much, as none of his solo albums (apart from his 1985 debut, She's the Boss and, to a lesser extent, his 1993 album, Wandering Spirit, his only solo release for Atlantic Records) ever matched the success of what he did with the Stones.

~Ben



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John and Paul recording together in " a disastrous coke-fueled session". I so hate these ignorant statements. was that writer present at this no doubt very exclusive session?
People always tossing this "coked to the gill" saying around. "The Stones played the songs faster in 81 because Jagger was coked to the gills." Right...

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The last time the Stones' two songwriters ever feuded with each other to the fullest was back in 1985-86, when Mick wanted to have a solo career, and Keith had said "If Mick tours without the band, I'll slit his throat." However, the genesis of all this could go back as far as 1980, because for some reason (I don't know why) they never toured in support of Emotional Rescue. There were also no tours for 1983's Undercover (their last studio LP for Atlantic Records), or for 1986's Dirty Work (their first LP for Columbia Records).

And what did Mick gain for all his troubles? Not so much, as none of his solo albums (apart from his 1985 debut, She's the Boss and, to a lesser extent, his 1993 album, Wandering Spirit, his only solo release for Atlantic Records) ever matched the success of what he did with the Stones.

~Ben

The thing is, you could be missing something if you look at their solo careers in isolation from the Stones; esp. Mick Jagger's.... The way I see it is that the 'upping of the ante' between what was a Stones show in 1981 and the production colossus of 1989 was a direct result of Mick Jagger's efforts and experiments on his solo tours of Japan & Australia in 1988...if only (but I doubt it) because of the introduction of backing singers, one may not like the results but personally I think it's indisputable that Mick Jagger came back from his solo excursion with ideas that vastly increased their dimensionality....(if there's such a word) and therefore (because we all bore so easily) their longevity.......again personally I think if it hadn't been for Mick Jagger the Stones would have probaly just fizzled out like Status Quo or 10cc...or as the Who did for years & years.........just a thought..EddieByword



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John and Paul recording together in " a disastrous coke-fueled session". I so hate these ignorant statements. was that writer present at this no doubt very exclusive session?

The Boot is out there for all to hear:
[en.wikipedia.org]
[www.bootlegzone.com]


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

...I'd add John & Christine McVie (Fleetwood Mac) up there...
And yep; the Fogerty's should DEFINITELY have been in that list!

["I can hear the Bullfrog calling me..."]

what feud between Hackett/Collins? I wasn't aware of this. Whats the story?

What about Buckingham and Nicks? There is an odd relationship, They were partners then then hated each other then one tried to kill the other and know they tour togeather and turn up on each others solo work!

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what feud between Hackett/Collins? I wasn't aware of this. Whats the story?

What about Buckingham and Nicks? There is an odd relationship, They were partners then then hated each other then one tried to kill the other

.mr cox..That sort of relationship sounds like half the people I know..yea'.

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I have one to add, after seeing the documentary "Legends of the Canyon":
Stephen Stills and Neil Young, both vying for the lead guitar role.

At least Mick and Keith kept their fights offstage--I think.

Stephen and Neil even got their mothers involved in their power struggles, according to "Shakey"

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.... LOL .... I think this is the first time that I agree with you

It means our relations develop slowly but constantly

Cool, but it also means we are kicked out of the Top Rock Feuds List now

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Sadly, there doesn't seem to be a thaw in the Davies brothers' relationship.
This from the current Uncut magazine:

Ray:



Dave:



"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

What about Genesis?

The first "classic" lineup of Genesis, when they were still doing progressive rock (think such epics as "The Knife," "Musical Box," "Supper's Ready," "Firth of Fifth," and "The Cinema Show"), was:

Peter Gabriel - vocals and flute
Steve Hackett - guitars
Mike Rutherford - guitars, bass, cello, vocals
Phil Collins - drums, percussion and vocals
Tony Banks - keyboards, vocals, 12-string guitar

Gabriel quit the band in 1975, followed by Hackett in 1977. Thereafter, Daryl Stuermer was drafted to play Hackett's guitar lines live in concert on the pre-1978 Genesis material, while Mike Rutherford would do bass; the two men would switch instruments on the 1978 and later Genesis songs (think "Follow You, Follow Me," "Duke" and "Abacab" among others).

The remainder of Genesis have tried to tap both Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett for a full-on reunion tour, but Gabriel refused, and Hackett also refused to rejoin unless Gabriel agreed to rejoin. To this day, Gabriel is still happy with his post-Genesis career. But ... was there exactly any feuding going on here?

Also ... Styx. Founded in 1964 as the Trade Winds by brothers Chuck and John Panozzo (the latter would die in 1996 of cirrhosis of the liver from past drug abuse) and friend Dennis DeYoung, and later joined by guitarists John Curulewski (replaced by Tommy Shaw in early 1976) and James "J.Y." Young, this group had such hits as "Lady," "Come Sail Away," "Babe" and "Mr. Roboto" among others. The Styx lineup many of us remember:

Dennis DeYoung - keyboards, vocals
James "J.Y." Young - guitars, vocals, keyboards
Tommy Shaw - guitars, vocals, mandolin, keyboards
Chuck Panozzo - bass guitar
John Panozzo - drums, percussion

But the luster of the Styx lineup we knew and loved was lost big time in 1999 (drummer John Panozzo had died 3 years earlier, which initially dented any chances of such a reunion), when Dennis DeYoung fell ill due to a viral infection he contracted during years of touring under the literal spotlight (his condition was diagnosed by 16 different doctors!), and wanted the rest of his group to delay the tour until he felt better. However, the two guitarists (Young and Shaw) said no (J.Y. once said at that time "It's either his (Dennis's) way or the highway, and we chose the highway"), and would ultimately go on without him, hiring Scots-Canadian keyboardist Lawrence Gowan in DeYoung's slot.

~Ben



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Tiny dodger - not according to Des Barres:

Infamous rock groupie PAMELA DES BARRES has defended SIR MICK JAGGER after KEITH RICHARDS questioned the size of his manhood, insisting she got "plenty of satisfaction" in bed with the frontman.

In his explosive memoirs, Life, Richards mocks his Rolling Stones bandmate, claiming speculation the rocker is well-endowed is false and insisting Jagger's one-time girlfriend Marianne Faithfull "had no fun with his tiny todger (penis)".

But Des Barres, who has written two books about her romps with Jagger and other rock 'n' roll legends, wants to set the record straight.

She says, "I beg to differ with Keith on the sexual prowess of his lead singer. In all ways (including size) I got plenty of satisfaction. The todger isn't tiny after all, dolls. And you can trust the world's most famous groupie!"

Just so you know proudmary, I'm only quoting and poking at WHAT you put on here, I'm not poking fun at YOU:

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Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

This is such a snooze now. Whether it's true or not.

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Aerosmith: The 'American Idol' Meltdown
Over their 40-year career, the members of Aerosmith have variously survived heroin addiction, cancer, horrific onstage accidents...

At first glance I swore it said "horrific stage designs"...

I've not gotten any notion that anyone cares if they continue. They have nothing to offer now either. They're just like The Who, playing nothing but their back catalogue...for some reason that sounds really familiar...

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The Who: Roger and Pete Battle It Out In The Press

In 1975 Pete Townshend vented his frustrations with the Who to the NME: "We've become a golden oldies group," he said. "I can tell you that when we were gigging in this country at the early part of this year I was thoroughly depressed. I honestly feel that the Who were going on stage every night and copying what the Who used to be."

Amazing, innit Pete, how imitating yourself can turn into "longevity" and make you loads of money. Just like The Rolling Stones!

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Pink Floyd: Dave Steals Roger's Pig

In 1987 Roger Waters toured separately from the rest of Pink Floyd. He took pot shots at Floyd's 1988 album A Momentary Lapse of Reason. "[David] Gilmour's lyrics are very third-rate," he said. "They'll never be as good as mine."

Explains why Roger's solo career has been such a HUGE suckcess dunnit...

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Oasis

The best break up in the history of music. A couple of Axls...

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Guns N' Roses: Axl Calls Slash a 'Cancer'

Axl, just like his solo album Chinese Democracy, is a piece of shit. All hat, no cattle. He has no mouth, only his ass hole, which he speaks out of quite clearly. Everyone knows that Guns'N'Roses ended after, er, well, the good songs from Use Yer Illusions...

Joe Strummer and Mick Jones had a good squabble there for a while about 25 years ago, but made their peace on the second BAD album.