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I saw what happened, I saw Keith sober as a priest. We talked.
There are other people who saw Keith back stage, in his Camp X-ray. I was one of them. Keith's version is the correct one. He was NOT drunk.Quote
I saw what happened, I saw Keith sober as a priest. We talked.
Take it easy girl, but I dont care with what you think you saw. Many other people saw the opposite, including Ole Tingvall for instance, who knows Keith certainly better than you and said he was drunk.
Just before the show, OT was at the Meet and Greet. He was totally wasted (very drunk) and had to use Ronnie as support.
"Keith was leaning againt Ronnie, he couldn't stand up straight"
"I have seen him so many times - never like this, so very drunk".
"I don't have words for it, it was just so sad"
this is exactly what is going on now .people that were not there and do not have first hand knowledge of this incident talking out of there you know what (trolls).either you love the glimmers (warts and all ) or you dont.it's that easy to me . i got keith's back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote
>> Do I have to remind you that many stadiums were half-empty ? <<
and that doesn't make it ok - or even reasonable - to write that someone is drunk when they aren't.
were you at the show in question, praline, or are you just bitchin about things that you've never seen?
Yes, the "I was misquoted"-trick only works if you're not taped/videoed while saying it. Tingvall understood he'd made a mistake, and he's no longer a friend, after what I read here on the board not long after the show...Quote
>> Ole Tingvall for instance <<
.. and Tingvall said he was misquoted. (he was videod saying something like "Keith was wasted"
so it's hard to see where the misquoting came in, but he did "disavow" the statement.
Yes, the "I was misquoted"-trick only works if you're not taped/videoed while saying it. Tingvall understood he'd made a mistake, and he's no longer a friend, after what I read here on the board not long after the show...
Date: August 14, 2007
The Ove T-"affair"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~¨
Crucial here is the translation and the interpretation
plus the use of info by the hungry tabloid Expressen.
Talked to Ove yesterday nite, he is devastated
how his words has been twisted and exaggerated
by his former employer (thou he was never a writing labor man
on the paper, he had other duties) the tabloid.
When demanding a denial; they just, basicaly, laugh him off
("who'd care about that?"). He said drunk, not totally sober,
a little unsteady on his legs; but not "dead drunk".
I want to dig deeper in this before I say much more.
One thing is perfectly clear: Ove T would never do
nor say anything on purpose that was intented to hurt his life-long
m e n t o r , as Ove titels Keith.
Bad luck, no incoming big headline news,
the big time tabloid bosses blew up it out off proportions
and made up a story. "And the rest is history". At least two human beings
and a whole musical trust is hurt thou: Ove, Keith & the whole
management, record company etc.
As we can see above, Sohoe and lots of lots of others stood
close by Keith and could not see any sign of anything which could
have been influencing his playing. He was normally drunk, as I got it.
No big deal.
I can see o n e good thing evolving from this: the lads did shape up
even more after the media-bashing, and they have now reached a day form
which exceeds most of what we have seen sofar; I really envy all of you who'
re going to Hamburg & 02. And I sure hope for a US tour next year.
NOTE on Ove: He met the Stones back in 1965, 1966, 1967; had them in
his own home in 1970, and so on. He wrote a book "Stones in Sweden".
Keith has referred to Ove as "My rock 'n roll friend in Sweden".
I have myself interviewed Ove for hour and hours for radio shows.
Hey you, little chocolate praline! That's normally a sweet thing!
In my vocabulary blasphemy is a totally meaningless word. I don't have a religion,
We used to have such a brilliant exhibition of stupidity in France on the French forum. It's over now that the forum has died.
That's why I am glad to witness that phenomenon again here - no wonder why fan derives from "fanatic". We have here a handful of silly people who are ready to go tomorrow to the headquartes of that Swedish tabloid, with an explosive belt - just like for Mahommet's cartoon actually !
I personally think an artist has every right to hold a grudge and expect, if not demand, honesty in reporting. It is great that Keith realized who he was dealing with and ended the interview.
When a reporter inserts him/herself into the story, they are no longer doing their job and should prepare for the consequences.
Nice words, but newspapers (if you can call it a newspaper) like Daily Mail, Mirror, Aftonbladet, Expressen, Ekstra Bladet, BT etc. don't respect it. If they don't like you they will put up with a lie / fake histories just to put you down.Quote
i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.
ii) A significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distortion once recognised must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence, and - where appropriate - an apology published.
iii) The Press, whilst free to be partisan, must distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact.
iv) A publication must report fairly and accurately the outcome of an action for defamation to which it has been a party, unless an agreed settlement states otherwise, or an agreed statement is published.
Ai ai - you got it all wrong here. Just to clarify:Quote
whats all this swearing and bickerin all about.
So, Keef was not drunk at the gig, falling over because of his medication.
i believe it.
i only think he should have acted as a grown up man to the interviewer Ove.
This way all the commotion starts.
I think why a lot of the wars and agression in the world starts.
Just think and then react.
Maybe Keefs reaction should have been... yeah well @#$%& you. i wont talk to you and walked away.
I love Keith, but hey have respect for your follow man and just ignore someone if you dont like the attitude some people have.
agression only asks for agression. Just a shame.
one love Jeroen
Exactly, so nobody here should cry for Markus Larsson.Quote
mtaylor, I agree and had edited my post at about the same time.