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Bärs
About the quality:

You glorify again. They made a lot of poor music in the 60s and 70s and early 80s aswell, things that never mattered. What was different though is that the tops were higher in 64-73 than later, but the great 4 was made in just a few years and in 1971 their creative peak was over. What I don't understand is the anger because they can't reach that level again, which they have not been able to do for 40 years! (Yes, I know about SG but it's not in the same league when we talk about legacy.) I think that the results during the golden era was possible to achive only then, in that particular time and that social and cultural setting. Rock and pop music is so dependent on external factors like who you work with, who you are friends with, what is "hot", who's still alive, who's sleeping with who, who lives where etc. that these circumstances never can be recreated by willpower.

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DandelionPowderman
I think Bärs is saying that if we weren't there, we should be more careful with generalizing the different "eras" - that each of those periods of time had its ups and downs. In fact, so much that it's impossible to categorize them the way you do.

But I could be wrong...

And I don't necessarily disagree with you, either.

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Bärs
About the quality:

You glorify again. They made a lot of poor music in the 60s and 70s and early 80s aswell, things that never mattered. What was different though is that the tops were higher in 64-73 than later, but the great 4 was made in just a few years and in 1971 their creative peak was over. What I don't understand is the anger because they can't reach that level again, which they have not been able to do for 40 years! (Yes, I know about SG but it's not in the same league when we talk about legacy.) I think that the results during the golden era was possible to achive only then, in that particular time and that social and cultural setting. Rock and pop music is so dependent on external factors like who you work with, who you are friends with, what is "hot", who's still alive, who's sleeping with who, who lives where etc. that these circumstances never can be recreated by willpower.

This is hopeless. Because I wasn't around in 1965 I cannot say that "Satisfaction" is better song as "Mixed Emotions"?

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Rolling Hansie
Hey Doxa and Bärs, may I suggest the two of you get a room

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corriecas
is this terrible nonsense crap thred still going on??

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corriecas
lets laugh when the Stones will hit the stage in 2011/2012

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Bärs
If The Stones would have hit the road 1989 with a rough tour like 1978 with Mick running around playing drunk asking "Where's the balcony?", they would've been dead meat after the first show. Their adaption to a new level of professionality and sophistication was crucial for the survival in that socio-cultural environment.