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Less love for Keith
Posted by: Baxter Thwaites ()
Date: October 22, 2010 23:58

I've been away for a while. There seems to be some anger towards to Keith on this forum.

Why?

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: MKjan ()
Date: October 23, 2010 00:06

none from me, tho he is a loose cannon, has been for a while.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: lettingitbleed ()
Date: October 23, 2010 00:13

People are up in arms due to some book excerpts. He made some less than nice comments about Mike and Brian (wow what a shock) and some folks have taken it hard. It's only rock n' roll lads....

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: October 23, 2010 00:41

Its very sad IMO. Who does his publicity? An icon of R n R is reduced to a caricature commenting on the size of a mans cock and snorting his fathers ashes...

Very poor. Would you expect the same from a book by Dylan, Neil Young??

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: marchbaby ()
Date: October 23, 2010 00:45

Disney may nix him out of the new pirates of the caribbean movie, based on comments he made about high quality drug use. LOL. Like Disney didn't know he did drugs!

Mick's rock, I'm roll.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: stones78 ()
Date: October 23, 2010 00:45

He's been like that for a while though..The thing is, now all he does is that...he doesn't play music anymore, not for the public at least.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: CBII ()
Date: October 23, 2010 02:05

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marchbaby
Disney may nix him out of the new pirates of the caribbean movie, based on comments he made about high quality drug use. LOL. Like Disney didn't know he did drugs!

He was the only reason I ever watched Pirates of the Caribbean! If I wanted to watch a real Pirate comedy movie without Keith it would be YELLOW BEARD! In fact, I'm pulling that one down and popping it in this evening.

Crawl, Crawl, Stagger, Stagger!

CBII

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: JJFlash2010 ()
Date: October 23, 2010 02:21

It's definitely all about the excerpts from his book. I've never been one to go about making negative remarks concerning Keith Richards' behaviour. I've always been a big fan of his. I used to think he was the coolest guy around. However, I'm still looking forward to reading his book, and I will still buy the next Stones record(if there ever is one), and hopefully go see them on tour, etc. But Keith seems like he has lost his edge. Why doesn't he just play his guitar again? The guy who wrote Gimme Shelter and Satisfaction has decided not to play anymore? That seems like a real tragedy.

The majority of his Life excerpts posted here were actually a good read. I always imagined that Keith Richards did do "quality drugs". Keith once referred to low-grade, commercial weed as "Mexican shoe-scrapings". I should hope that Keith has always done quality drugs. Why wouldn't he? And for everyone who doesn't know anything about heroin, junkies actually die from adding just a little bit more, thinking they'll get a little bit higher. So, maybe Keith could save somebody else's life with what he said there. It's just like Keith to brag about his drug use. But it's even more interesting that he's truly a living testiment to all the substances he has consumed. Take one look at the guy and you'd never even want to smoke a cigarette! That's why I've always thought his karma was good. Everything is out there for all to see. I've never believed Keith Richards to be a hypocrite or someone who puts-on an image.

Not to get too carried away here... I guess a lot of the "less love for Keith" has to do solely with the crank comment. Mick's crank, remember, the "tiny todger", the purportedly small wee-wee. Was it necessary to take a swipe at Mick like that? Maybe as fans we're all kind of sensitive about the Stones' members, or is it 'members of the Stones'. Anyway, if Mick had said something in the paper that Keith had a 'wrinkled dink' or some such weirdness, probably a lot of us would have been equally thrown for a loop. Keith obviously still has some big resentment about Mick/Anita/Performance. Well, now we all know.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: Milan ()
Date: October 23, 2010 02:22

"Crawl, Crawl, Stagger, Stagger!"

- love the quote! Graham was great...

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: CBII ()
Date: October 23, 2010 02:31

The A #1 purpose of the book is to make money. The ridiculous and outlandish are par for the course. The parts I've read here make it fairly obvious to me that's exactly what's going on. The more technical discussion about keys, chords and song development won't keep the non musician captivated, thus silly stuff about Mick's special purpose.

If there's any real long term hostilities about the goings on among the band members thank god he waited until AFTER Exile On Main Street, Sticky Fingers, Goats Head Soup, Black and Blue and Some Girls to release his book.

CBII



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-10-23 02:32 by CBII.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: JJFlash2010 ()
Date: October 23, 2010 02:40

Yeah, I liked that stuff he talked about with adding a G to an A to make it a 7th, and it's interesting to follow a straight-barre chord with a 7th chord, and there's always one chord that holds a song together, and all he said about drone notes... But, I don't think that anything and everything is par for the course. Or, it shouldn't be. Sure, the purpose of his book is to make money. But does he need to sacrifice Mick's todger in the process, in front of the whole world?

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: October 23, 2010 04:23

I agree with you on he needs to just play his guitar,.I really think and hope he really says some great things about Brian and give him credit where credit is do,same with Wyman.
PS CBII did u get my message on Facebook about your favorite songs from your Father?
Would love to chat about that and the Stones.online of course check my profile..think you will dig it Facebook.My name is same as here.

Coming Down Again

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: October 23, 2010 09:06

If he wants to relate specific real grievances against Mick, ok, it's his memoirs, even though it seems like self-sabotage to trash one's current business partner. But his comments are way over the line, imo, or below the belt, if you will.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: JJFlash2010 ()
Date: October 23, 2010 09:31

He said it all together, with Mick/Anita/Performance references ending the paragraph. It was pretty plain to me, just reading it, that he was actually mad about that old situation. But there again that's my "perception" from reading it. Keith isn't ruled by other's perceptions, apparently. I'm sure Mick will get over the whole thing. But we'll still be two fans on the internet talking about Mick Jagger's penis after it's all been said and done. It's already old news in the 24 hour news cycle. If Keith wants to play his guitar I think there could be a Rolling Stones again.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: October 23, 2010 12:24

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CBII
The A #1 purpose of the book is to make money. The ridiculous and outlandish are par for the course. The parts I've read here make it fairly obvious to me that's exactly what's going on. The more technical discussion about keys, chords and song development won't keep the non musician captivated, thus silly stuff about Mick's special purpose.

If there's any real long term hostilities about the goings on among the band members thank god he waited until AFTER Exile On Main Street, Sticky Fingers, Goats Head Soup, Black and Blue and Some Girls to release his book.

So CBII did you snag tickets to Keith at NYPL, after all? It sounded like you might have had a line in but you weren't sure.

As to less love for Keith...? for me, I'd say a dampening and dip of enthusiasm.

Will read LIFE and see what he has to say. But Keith is a brilliant man and really interesting artist (I've been floored with with his low key off-hand yet profound insights up through the '90s---even when people mocked his slurry speech and unfinished steam of consciousness verbal riffing), and I'm hoping his book reflects what's most solidly interesting about him. Rather than reflecting his lazier elements, and the "Buffone" persona. I'm interested in what he would have to say, what insights he came up with over the years, and as he prepared for this book.

If it's all gladhand-y recycled stories, thinly veiled bitterness, and being obscured from himself by his own myth I'll be bored, and saddened by his lack of courage to challenge himself--for his sake: not so much mine.

Re: Less love for Keith
Date: October 23, 2010 16:49

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swiss
I'd say a dampening and dip of enthusiasm. Will read LIFE and see what he has to say. I'm hoping his book reflects what's most solidly interesting about him. Rather than reflecting his (...) 'Buffone' persona.



"I can’t untie the threads of how much I played up to the part that was written for me. (…) I think some of it is that there is so much pressure to be that person that you become it. (…) They imagined me, they made me; the folks out there created this folk hero, bless their hearts. (…) People love that image. (…) There is something inside me that that just wants to excite that thing in other people, because I know it’s there in everybody. They’re wishing me to do things that they can’t. They’ve got to do this job, they’ve got this life… (…) But at the same time, inside of them is a raging Keith Richards. (…) I get a uniquely ridiculous response. The skulls flow by the truckload, sent by well-wishers. (…) It’s impossible not to end up being a parody of what you thought you were. (…) When you talk of a folk hero, they’vre written the script for you and you better fulfill it. (…) And I’ll do the best I can to fulfill their needs. (…) And I did my best."

...Rest assured: it's all there.
Whatever you need, want and/or expect from Keith; anyhow you love (or hate) him.

Bless Keef; and bless his Brother's tiny c*ck.

["I can hear the Bullfrog calling me..."]

Re: Less love for Keith
Date: October 23, 2010 16:56

Todgergate

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: October 23, 2010 19:35

...actually..it's more like...............Where's the beef?

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: Stargroves ()
Date: October 23, 2010 19:55

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JJFlash2010
Yeah, I liked that stuff... But does he need to sacrifice Mick's todger in the process, in front of the whole world?


Eeuw... not a nice mental picture!confused smiley

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: CBII ()
Date: October 23, 2010 21:24

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swiss
Quote
CBII
The A #1 purpose of the book is to make money. The ridiculous and outlandish are par for the course. The parts I've read here make it fairly obvious to me that's exactly what's going on. The more technical discussion about keys, chords and song development won't keep the non musician captivated, thus silly stuff about Mick's special purpose.

If there's any real long term hostilities about the goings on among the band members thank god he waited until AFTER Exile On Main Street, Sticky Fingers, Goats Head Soup, Black and Blue and Some Girls to release his book.

So CBII did you snag tickets to Keith at NYPL, after all? It sounded like you might have had a line in but you weren't sure.

As to less love for Keith...? for me, I'd say a dampening and dip of enthusiasm.

Will read LIFE and see what he has to say. But Keith is a brilliant man and really interesting artist (I've been floored with with his low key off-hand yet profound insights up through the '90s---even when people mocked his slurry speech and unfinished steam of consciousness verbal riffing), and I'm hoping his book reflects what's most solidly interesting about him. Rather than reflecting his lazier elements, and the "Buffone" persona. I'm interested in what he would have to say, what insights he came up with over the years, and as he prepared for this book.

If it's all gladhand-y recycled stories, thinly veiled bitterness, and being obscured from himself by his own myth I'll be bored, and saddened by his lack of courage to challenge himself--for his sake: not so much mine.

NO! The Cu-nting Fuc-k that said they would have a ticket for me was bullshitting from the start! I just like everyone else wanted to experience the moment and enjoy a Friday night in NYC.

My now never to be trusted again 'friend' really blew it. They actually had the balls to ask 'well can't you make some phone calls?' I almost lost it! That's not my way of doing things. I don't expect to be treated any differently than anyone else. It would be a different story if someone calls me and asks me to come out but to use the 'PULL' card just is not the way I play the game.

On a lighter note, I too am very interested in what he has to say. I've seen various sides of Keith's personality come out from interviews in the past and my interaction with him.

For those that have tickets enjoy yourselves, it should be an interesting evening.

CBII

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: CindyC ()
Date: October 23, 2010 21:40

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CBII
NO! The Cu-nting Fuc-k that said they would have a ticket for me was bullshitting from the start!

Nicely done! At work, I friend and I have taken to replacing "Cnt" for other swears and it always makes us laugh. "What the Cnt?!" is our favorite.

Sorry your friend pulled a dick move - I hate people sometimes.

Anyway... this is really embarrassing, but I JUST the other day found out who you are. I have no idea how I missed all this - idiot I guess. Anyway, just wanted to show my respects. My parents taught us all about Chuck when we were little and my brother and sisters are all fans. Only got to catch him play a few times, hoping for another opportunity sometime soon. So put in a good word that you guys have Boston fans!

SEND MORE CHUCK BERRY!

Well, here's another side of Keith
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: October 23, 2010 22:38

dimanche, novembre 21, 2004
La belle-soeur... circa 2000
Brotherly love

When Marsha Hansen decided to incorporate her music skills and theological education into a ministry, her brother-in-law gave support and advice. Encouragement from a family member may not seem like much ... unless you happen to be related to Keith Richards.
A year after Marsha married Rodney Hansen, an ELCA pastor, her sister-in-law married Richards, the guitarist for the Rolling Stones, suddenly making her related to one of rock 'n' roll's most notorious men.
But Hansen has never seen the side of Richards that the public does. "I met Keith in 1982 when he and Patti were dating," Hansen said. "I couldn't have named one member of the band back then. From the beginning I was so impressed with his character. He's been so consistent as a good family member.
"It's funny to see it from the inside because you couldn't ask for a better person to know or to trust."
Hansen said when she told Richards about her desire for a music ministry, he encouraged her to sing in front of more people and to feel secure about her talent.
Since then Hansen has followed his advice, performing in churches throughout the San Diego area. She also assists her husband when he is a guest pastor (Rodney Hansen is currently between calls).
"I think music is not an adjunct to worship but part of it," Hansen said. "Sharing music that is not only Christian but also represents my cultural heritage helps bring more of my experience of the role Christ [has played] in my life."
Hansen, with a little help from Richards, is working toward her first record deal and is recording her second CD. But Richards has been more than just a musical adviser.
"Marrying into this Norwegian family, I felt like an outsider," Hansen recalled. "Keith ... made me feel comfortable. He would be the one to lean over and whisper, 'It's OK,' and squeeze my hand." Hansen's CD, I Know the Lord's Laid His Hands on Me (Orchard), is available through.
Building a Bridge to Babylon
Marsha Hansen Brings a New Dimension to the Extended Rolling Stones Family
by Jill Underwood
Summer may be officially over but, somewhere in Connecticut, a barbecue is still smoking and music is still blasting. Not that unusual, except that the music is old African-American spirituals and the home belongs to Rolling Stone Keith Richards. Both are music to the ears of Marsha Hansen.’Keith would open all the doors up so everybody could hear the singing and playing,’ says the Chula Vista singer and mother of three. Richards’ listening sessions were what gave Hansen the inspiration to give up teaching and pursue her dream of singing spirituals professionally.The leap of faith came with encouragement from Richards, who also happens to be Hansen’s brother-in-law. ‘I love her dearly. We started singing around the family,’ remembers Richards. ‘That’s where music comes from. It comes from the heart. When she started getting into it I said, ‘Good luck and get going and I’ll keep an eye on you.’’Richards’ reputation isn’t exactly that of a choir boy. But as a child he was a member of a prestigious youth choir in England that performed before Queen Elizabeth II. Hansen herself is a product of the Southern-pewed singing set. When they met almost 20 years ago, the two heard beautiful music. ‘She’s got a great feeling as a sister,’ says Richards. ‘When we get together, we start to hang around the piano and the guitar and pick out and choose songs.’Hansen returns Richards’ respect and affection, whatever his reputation. ‘You get to know a person’s character over the years,’ defends Hansen. ‘If he says something, you can count on it. He has a lot of integrity and he’s very kind. All the children love Uncle Keith.’ Hansen says she has no problem allowing her lambs to lay down with the lion.And why should she? This is a woman with degrees in theology, sociology and human relations. When she met Rod Hansen 20 years ago, she was a Naval officer in Japan. She knew him as a Navy chaplain long before realizing he was also the brother of international supermodel, Patti Hansen. The two married in 1981 on the aircraft carrier Midway. Patti and Keith married in 1983. At the time, his sister’s union gave Rod Hansen little satisfaction.’I represent the establishment,’ says the 48-year-old Hansen. ‘Quite a different world from where Keith lives, and my first thought was, ‘Of all the people in the world you had to fall in love with, Patti, look what you did!’But the two families eventually grew close and learned how to have fun together. Now, with five children between them, the families have flourished. The Hansen’s even have a favorite Rolling Stones song: ‘Brown Sugar,’ admits Marsha. ‘When our daughter was born, I said, ‘Oh look, Keith. She’s ‘Brown Sugar,’ isn’t she? She even had that played when she walked out as the Homecoming Princess last year.’But it’s her own music Marsha concentrates on these days. Her first CD of African-American spirituals, I Know the Lord’s Laid His Hands on Me, was released late last year. ‘These are songs that are from the pre-Civil War [era],’ Hansen explains. ‘They’re sacred folk songs which rose up from enslaved African-Americans with a rural bent. It distinguishes them from Gospel. Gospel grew from an urban experience.’The project came about after Richards gave Hansen a DAT recording machine and introduced her to keyboardist, Rob Whitlock. Together, Hansen and Whitlock co-produced the debut. Its completion left Hansen flying high, but there were still clouds of concern: Would Richards like it? After all, his musical opinion means more to her than almost anyone’s. ‘He’s an encyclopedia in his knowledge of music. I really don’t know anybody who has the music knowledge he does,’ says Hansen.She didn’t have to worry. Hansen’s disc was like a revelation to the rocker. ‘It’s quite pure as compared to a lot of Gospel singers I know,’ says Richards. ‘It kind of intrigues me, too.’But would Richards have told her if he didn’t like it? ‘Now and again I’ll say ‘You’ve got to hit there on another key,’’ Richards admits. ‘But that’s just me being an old record producer.’And Marsha Hansen can take it. Neither sticks nor Stones will break the bones of her sound, which she describes as ‘personal.’ ‘I like the ethnic characteristics in my voice,’ says Hansen. ‘It’s passionate and rich. You can tell you’re listening to an African-American woman sing.’And she’ll be singing a lot more. A second CD is in the works. And she’s leaving space on at least one track for a few guitar licks -- licks that Richards has promised to fill. What’s this? Keith Richards jamming for the robed one?’I love music, no matter what it is,’ says Richards. ‘Music is music to me. It’s not necessarily the message to me. Whether it’s church music or comes from the Honky Tonks, I don’t mind as long as it’s good.’ Richards even made his own record of soul music years ago, Wingless Angels.So how do you repay a Rolling Stone? If you’re Marsha Hansen, with a gift from the heavens. ‘I gave him a hymn book for his house,’ Hansen laughs. ‘He did sing sacred songs as a little boy, but there was never a hymn book around when I was looking for one. So I said, ‘You have to have this now!’’ You can buy Marsha Hansen’s CD, ‘I Know the Lord’s Laid His Hands on Me,’ at Sam Goody stores or at www.MarshaHansen.iuma.com

[pierresetparoles.blogspot.com]

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: October 24, 2010 00:28

Wouldn't it be a GAS if the book BOMBED because of his nastiness? I know a few real Stones fans that are really pissed and have told me that not only won't they buy the book but they plan on letting it be known in several ways how resentful they are that the tone of the book couldn't have been more warm and fuzzy towards his mates.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: October 24, 2010 00:34

All Mick has to do for redemption is to go on a late night show and just whip it out for everyone!tongue sticking out smiley

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: October 24, 2010 01:05

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stones78
He's been like that for a while though..The thing is, now all he does is that...he doesn't play music anymore, not for the public at least.

This is the main problem. He has turned into "Keith Richards" the character. This character talks about music and cares very much about it. He just doesn't actually play it very much or very well anymore. I preferred Keith Richards the musician.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: Midnight Toker ()
Date: October 24, 2010 01:10

More love.#2 on Amazon. Enough said.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: October 24, 2010 01:52

its called selling a book

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: stonescrow ()
Date: October 24, 2010 04:25

Quote
Baxter Thwaites
I've been away for a while. There seems to be some anger towards to Keith on this forum.

Why?

After seeing his interview on the Today Show whatever disgust and anger I had for him is gone.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: JJFlash2010 ()
Date: October 24, 2010 05:42

Quote
JJFlash2010
Yeah, I liked that stuff he talked about with adding a G to an A to make it a 7th, and it's interesting to follow a straight-barre chord with a 7th chord, and there's always one chord that holds a song together, and all he said about drone notes... But, I don't think that anything and everything is par for the course. Or, it shouldn't be. Sure, the purpose of his book is to make money. But does he need to sacrifice Mick's todger in the process, in front of the whole world?


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Stargroves
Quote
JJFlash2010
Yeah, I liked that stuff... But does he need to sacrifice Mick's todger in the process, in front of the whole world?


Eeuw... not a nice mental picture!confused smiley



Don't edit me like that. I've no use for parsed soundbites. Not everything is pretty all the time. But what we're experiencing here is a form of psychological brutality between two brothers. I think Mick personifies tough. He can handle it. Neither of them need a bunch of nags on the internet telling them what they should and shouldn't be doing. It all speaks to their greatness as two old artists, though, and everything here is related to the compelling work they've made together. All of the Stones fans, from the world over, we still feel passionate about this stuff. I certainly wouldn't mess with Keith. He's the old gangster now, the old magician. They're both still wiry and can handle themselves. But what I would like to hear is another Stones album. I would think that everyone on this site would really appreciate the chance to buy another Stones album the day it's released. Maybe the old guys are through with it all. Time will tell.

Re: Less love for Keith
Posted by: JJFlash2010 ()
Date: October 24, 2010 05:50

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stonescrow
Quote
Baxter Thwaites
I've been away for a while. There seems to be some anger towards to Keith on this forum.

Why?

After seeing his interview on the Today Show whatever disgust and anger I had for him is gone.


You're spot on, mate.

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