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Some very fine acoustic guitar playing there from Keith, imo.
I always thought he only tuned down to C, not to D. 12-string acoustics seemed to be made to tune down to C, they sound much grander then. Tony Zemaitis build his 12-strings acoustics to be tuned to C, not to E.
Mathijs
Guild 12-string? Anyone got pix of this, I thought he still had his Harmony back then
From the November 1977 issue of Guitar Player magazine:
GP: Who played 12-string on Tell Me and Good Times, Bad Times?
Keith: I did that. I was the proud owner of a 12-string at the time. Actually, I had two: a Harmony and a Guild. The Guild was very nice.
The guild came a bit later I think, it's definitely there in time for Between The Buttons though.
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Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
René
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Date: September 28, 2010 10:04
Comments, input and alterations are very welcome!
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Good Times, Bad Times
(Mick Jagger / Keith Richards)
Regent Sound Studios, London, UK, February 25, 1964
Mick Jagger - vocals
Keith Richards - acoustic guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Brian Jones - harmonica
There've been good times
There've been bad times
I have my share of hard times too
But I lost my faith in the world
Honey, when I lost you
Remember the good times
We've had together?
Don't you want them back again?
Tho' these hard times are bugging me now
Honey, now it's a sin
There's gotta be trust in this world
Or it won't get very far
Well, trust in someone
Or there's gonna be a war
Produced by Andrew Loog Oldham
First released on:
The Rolling Stones - “It’s All Over Now / Good Times, Bad Times” 7” single
(Decca F 11934) UK, June 26, 1964
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Good Times, Bad Times
(Mick Jagger / Keith Richards)
Regent Sound Studios, London, UK, February 25, 1964
Mick Jagger - vocals
Keith Richards - acoustic guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Brian Jones - harmonica
There've been good times
There've been bad times
I have my share of hard times too
But I lost my faith in the world
Honey, when I lost you
Remember the good times
We've had together?
Don't you want them back again?
Tho' these hard times are bugging me now
Honey, now it's a sin
There's gotta be trust in this world
Or it won't get very far
Well, trust in someone
Or there's gonna be a war
Produced by Andrew Loog Oldham
First released on:
The Rolling Stones - “It’s All Over Now / Good Times, Bad Times” 7” single
(Decca F 11934) UK, June 26, 1964
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
1962
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Date: September 28, 2010 10:21
I love it, but I think the original (Key To The Highway) is also not bad.
A great great singing from Mick.
A great great singing from Mick.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
with sssoul
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Date: September 28, 2010 10:39
the performances are fine - the lyrics are ... charmingly naive :E
the Glimmers have often pointed out that fledgling songwriters find it way easier
to write a puerile pop ballad than a good blues
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-09-28 11:24 by with sssoul.
the Glimmers have often pointed out that fledgling songwriters find it way easier
to write a puerile pop ballad than a good blues
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-09-28 11:24 by with sssoul.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
liddas
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Date: September 28, 2010 11:00
I consider this a true masterpiece!
Interplay of the band is just incredible. The call and answer between Keith and Mick captures the true essence of this music and state of mind. Brian nails it. Bill and Charlie swing ... So much taste, attention to details, the delicacy of the dynamics. And they all were in their early 20s ... They must have been soaked with the blues at the time!
12 string acoustic by keith, right?
C
Interplay of the band is just incredible. The call and answer between Keith and Mick captures the true essence of this music and state of mind. Brian nails it. Bill and Charlie swing ... So much taste, attention to details, the delicacy of the dynamics. And they all were in their early 20s ... They must have been soaked with the blues at the time!
12 string acoustic by keith, right?
C
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
marcovandereijk
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Date: September 28, 2010 11:51
Keith has been quoted to play a Guild 12 string acoustic on this song.
They are so unbelievebly convincing with their early blues songs. Together with Confessin'
the blues the highlight of the 12x5 album in my opinion.
They are so unbelievebly convincing with their early blues songs. Together with Confessin'
the blues the highlight of the 12x5 album in my opinion.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
drewmaster
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Date: September 28, 2010 15:09
Laid-back, mellow blues, with (as liddas wrote) nice attention to detail. A portent of their work to come. Love that harp from Brian.
Drew
Drew
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
Green Lady
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Date: September 28, 2010 20:58
I can hear 2 harps on this one - especially in the bridge - is that Mick on the other one?
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
cc
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Date: September 28, 2010 21:55
another one of the early tracks where mick is somewhat the weak link... great sound on the 12-string!
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: November 22, 2010 23:16
i consider this one of their best written early tracks -- it is great!
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: November 22, 2010 23:18
Quote
liddas
I consider this a true masterpiece!
Interplay of the band is just incredible. The call and answer between Keith and Mick captures the true essence of this music and state of mind. Brian nails it. Bill and Charlie swing ... So much taste, attention to details, the delicacy of the dynamics. And they all were in their early 20s ... They must have been soaked with the blues at the time!
12 string acoustic by keith, right?
C
+ 1
Some very fine acoustic guitar playing there from Keith, imo.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
slew
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Date: November 22, 2010 23:36
One of the best early tracks!! Tremendous for five skinny white dudes from England!
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
microvibe
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Date: November 22, 2010 23:44
great harmonica solo!
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
1962
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Date: November 22, 2010 23:50
Great remake of "Key To The Highway".
Beautiful early Stones blues. Mick is very good, alsó the guitar.
Beautiful early Stones blues. Mick is very good, alsó the guitar.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
flilflam
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Date: November 23, 2010 02:30
I love this one too. For the longest time I just assumed the Stones were covering some ancient black blues musician. I was really surprised when I heard that the Stones had actually written it.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
Christian
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Date: November 23, 2010 09:22
"Tho' these hard times are bugging me now
Honey, now it's a sin"
I think it is "now it's the same"
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-09-12 22:37 by Christian.
Honey, now it's a sin"
I think it is "now it's the same"
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-09-12 22:37 by Christian.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
Christian
()
Date: September 12, 2012 22:38
According to the songbook, the 12-string acoustic guitar is tuned down 4 frets
(C-F-Bb-Eb-G-C) with chords E E7 B7 A A7
but this guy plays with a guitar tuned down 2 frets (D-D7-A7-G-G7)
Which tuning Keith is playing?
(C-F-Bb-Eb-G-C) with chords E E7 B7 A A7
but this guy plays with a guitar tuned down 2 frets (D-D7-A7-G-G7)
Which tuning Keith is playing?
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
His Majesty
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Date: September 12, 2012 22:57
There are 2 12 string acoustic guitars on the track, Seems one is tuned as per the book, the other as per the guy on Youtube. 
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
stonesnow
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Date: September 13, 2012 02:00
This track is more of an early Stones recording milestone than most people realize, for the acoustic guitar that is so front and center throughout is the first recorded instance of what came to define the acoustic sound of so many Stones recordings to come throughout the 60s.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: September 13, 2012 02:02
wonderful English-Boy Blues ... and it always brings a smile and a tear to SuperScruff ...
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
slew
()
Date: September 13, 2012 05:35
Old thread! This song came on my ipod today on my drive home from work. Great song totally convincing blues. Great acoustic from Keith and the harp by Brian is very good. mick a weak link here - no way!!!
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
Witness
()
Date: September 13, 2012 07:34
I am amazed to read the vocal to be judged a weak link.
Apart from that, a personal post rather than strictly related to the song's "anatomy" if that is allowed in this thread, too.
As an indication of my preference for this song, I render my answer to a thread a long time ago, starting in April 2005 and I myself posting in August
Apart from that, a personal post rather than strictly related to the song's "anatomy" if that is allowed in this thread, too.
As an indication of my preference for this song, I render my answer to a thread a long time ago, starting in April 2005 and I myself posting in August
Quote
Fansince1964
Let's hear what you have to say about this:
Please write your wish in this topic and I collect and compile the info and later I will publish a ranking list.
You get to have 3 choices of which songs you want to hear on satge this tour.
I'll start and here's my choices.
Sway
Coming Down Again
2000 manQuote
Witness
Oh, am I too late? Have I missed the train?
Anyway, the following three songs today (most possibly some others another day):
1) "Tell Me"
2) "Good Times, Bad Times"
3) "Long, Long While"
One of the first songs - actually "Tell Me" as the very first and personally still more important song - that was vital to me to make me gradually experience during months of 1964 when I did not have a record player yet and was dependent on others to listen to albums, that there might be a greater band to me to possibly even love than the Beatles. That is even if at the outset there were not a few Stones songs for a period yet that were too «harsh» and challenging for me to take in, and when it first was «The Last Time» that made me finally completely break my initial Beatles fancy, confronted at approximately the same time with the terrible «Yesterday», on my way to first time fandom of a band's music further on. Fandom, being a serious matter to me, not one of the toughest guys, exposed to this dangerous band, because then socially and culturally dangerous they emerged.
«Good times, Bad Times», for me then featured in the German(?) Decca compilation AROUND AND AROUND, consisting of the first two EPs, (minus one song), plus a couple of single A-sides, this song being the B-side to «It's All Over Now», was one very important song for me on my way to the Stones. This was a song, which title and feeling I from early on identified with.
I am a somewhat casual reader (and even more casual writer) on this forum with long absences from time to time. That may perhaps be the reason why this is the first time that I have noticed this song given special attention, up to this point almost believing myself to be alone here in loving it. - And then I discover that the thread is not new.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-09-13 07:38 by Witness.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
Mathijs
()
Date: September 13, 2012 09:53
Quote
Christian
According to the songbook, the 12-string acoustic guitar is tuned down 4 frets
(C-F-Bb-Eb-G-C) with chords E E7 B7 A A7
but this guy plays with a guitar tuned down 2 frets (D-D7-A7-G-G7)
Which tuning Keith is playing?
I always thought he only tuned down to C, not to D. 12-string acoustics seemed to be made to tune down to C, they sound much grander then. Tony Zemaitis build his 12-strings acoustics to be tuned to C, not to E.
Mathijs
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
whitem8
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Date: September 13, 2012 15:35
Good Times, Bad Times was a sneak preview of the glory of Beggar's Banquet. Young London boys coming up with such a heart felt world weary blues. A sublime teenage angst that was foretelling of even more thrilling things to come. A perfect early Stones song. The historical core of the original members rising above their individual talents to create a perfect show case of the raw vitality of what The Rolling Stones true essence was. The Blues. Love it.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
vox12string
()
Date: September 13, 2012 16:57
Quote
marcovandereijk
Keith has been quoted to play a Guild 12 string acoustic on this song.
Guild 12-string? Anyone got pix of this, I thought he still had his Harmony back then
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
2000 LYFH
()
Date: September 13, 2012 17:17
Quote
vox12stringQuote
marcovandereijk
Keith has been quoted to play a Guild 12 string acoustic on this song.
Guild 12-string? Anyone got pix of this, I thought he still had his Harmony back then
From the November 1977 issue of Guitar Player magazine:
GP: Who played 12-string on Tell Me and Good Times, Bad Times?
Keith: I did that. I was the proud owner of a 12-string at the time. Actually, I had two: a Harmony and a Guild. The Guild was very nice.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: September 13, 2012 19:21
Quote
2000 LYFHQuote
vox12stringQuote
marcovandereijk
Keith has been quoted to play a Guild 12 string acoustic on this song.
Guild 12-string? Anyone got pix of this, I thought he still had his Harmony back then
From the November 1977 issue of Guitar Player magazine:
GP: Who played 12-string on Tell Me and Good Times, Bad Times?
Keith: I did that. I was the proud owner of a 12-string at the time. Actually, I had two: a Harmony and a Guild. The Guild was very nice.
The guild came a bit later I think, it's definitely there in time for Between The Buttons though.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
pinkfloydthebarber
()
Date: September 13, 2012 19:38
love this track
always important to recongize again how great an acoustic guitarist keith was; acoustics (guitars) have always been integral to the stones sound
i think GTBT is tuned down a couple steps by the sounds of it
always important to recongize again how great an acoustic guitarist keith was; acoustics (guitars) have always been integral to the stones sound
i think GTBT is tuned down a couple steps by the sounds of it
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
soulsurvivor1
()
Date: September 13, 2012 22:51
Good Times, Bad Times along with songs like
* Confesing The Blues
* Look What You've Done
* Little Red Rooster
* I Can't Be Satisfied
* Heart Of Stone
* I'm A King Bee
* Pain In My Heart
* Down Home Girl
* Around & Around
* Little By Little
* Down The Road Apiece
* It's All Over Now
These Songs and many more Solidify The Stones As An Authentic rythym & Blues Band....
* For All The Beatle Fans That Think The Stones Copied Everything The Beatles Did...Think & Listen Again..The Two Bands Sound Nothing Alike.
SOUL
* Confesing The Blues
* Look What You've Done
* Little Red Rooster
* I Can't Be Satisfied
* Heart Of Stone
* I'm A King Bee
* Pain In My Heart
* Down Home Girl
* Around & Around
* Little By Little
* Down The Road Apiece
* It's All Over Now
These Songs and many more Solidify The Stones As An Authentic rythym & Blues Band....
* For All The Beatle Fans That Think The Stones Copied Everything The Beatles Did...Think & Listen Again..The Two Bands Sound Nothing Alike.
SOUL
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
slew
()
Date: September 14, 2012 05:57
Soulsurvivor - You are correct. That is not to say that the 1966-67 period that the Stones were not falling under the Beatles influence to some degree but even the songs from that period have an edge to them that the Beatles did not have. The Beatles never had a song like Good Times, Bad Times their songs are all polished and some like Dizzy Miss Lizzy are almost recorded too well. The Rolling STones really sound nothing like the Fab Four.
Re: Track Talk: Good Times, Bad Times
Posted by:
71Tele
()
Date: September 14, 2012 07:01
Love the fvck out of it. Always have. Them boys got soul...
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