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LeonidP
i think they were too gutless to do this
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LeonidP
i think they were too gutless to do this
Isn't it so that the Stones already played a couple of unplugged songs way back during the 69 tour ?
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LeonidP
i think they were too gutless to do this - back several years ago, when many bands started doing it, that's when they did the Stripped, which to me seemed like a lame attempt to not do this live, i.e. they don't have the confidence that they could pull this off in a subdued environment. just my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
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LeonidP
i think they were too gutless to do this
Isn't it so that the Stones already played a couple of unplugged songs way back during the 69 tour ?
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Gazza
'MTV Unplugged' broadcasts were always 'edited' for TV - and would have allowed re-takes if necessary.
The Dylan one, for example, comes from two shows, each 70-90 minutes in length.
Neil Young's was a 20-song set, edited down to 14.
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Gazza
'MTV Unplugged' broadcasts were always 'edited' for TV - and would have allowed re-takes if necessary.
The Dylan one, for example, comes from two shows, each 70-90 minutes in length.
Neil Young's was a 20-song set, edited down to 14.
Nirvana was all one take, no editing (well except for 2 songs, removed to fit into the 1 hour timeslot, but Nirvana put them back in on the official dvd).
Anyway, the editing factor is for release on tv ... I'm referring mainly to the fact that they are in the front of the audience which is quiet, and any mistake gets magnified.
can't change the facts ... no other band did it like the Stones did - don't get me wrong, I love Stripped, but I still see it as a gutless move by the Stones
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Gazza
'MTV Unplugged' broadcasts were always 'edited' for TV - and would have allowed re-takes if necessary.
The Dylan one, for example, comes from two shows, each 70-90 minutes in length.
Neil Young's was a 20-song set, edited down to 14.
Nirvana was all one take, no editing (well except for 2 songs, removed to fit into the 1 hour timeslot, but Nirvana put them back in on the official dvd).
Anyway, the editing factor is for release on tv ... I'm referring mainly to the fact that they are in the front of the audience which is quiet, and any mistake gets magnified.
can't change the facts ... no other band did it like the Stones did - don't get me wrong, I love Stripped, but I still see it as a gutless move by the Stones
Personally, I think Springsteen's decision to do the show as a 'Plugged' special to showcase his new touring band ranks as the biggest missed opportunity of the lot. Only the opening song was acoustic. The rest was a 3-hour gig edited down to 100 minutes. Worst album of his career.
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Gazza
No.He was married to Julianne Phillips from 1985-88. This was 1992-93. He'd already remarried and become a father by then.
Wouldnt dismiss seasoned musicians such as Bobby King and Carolyn Dennis as 'wannabees' but I take your point.
Playing with other musicians was all well and good (he's done it successfully since) but its less successful when you're attempting to do a similar sort of show.
Anyway, sorry to get off track. Agree with the 'money/control' and 'good record but missed opportunity' synopsis of 'Stripped', though.
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Gazza
Personally, I think Springsteen's decision to do the show as a 'Plugged' special to showcase his new touring band ranks as the biggest missed opportunity of the lot. Only the opening song was acoustic. The rest was a 3-hour gig edited down to 100 minutes. Worst album of his career.
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LeonidP
And to top it off, they ruined the most beautiful track of all! Although it was not on the album (it was a b-side), the version of Tumbling Dice starts off so unbelievably amazing, almost gospel-like. I would have loved to hear that in its entirety -- but they instead decided that Stones fans couldn't handle something too differently and edit in a normal live version after a small bit of time. That makes me soooo angry!! I'd pay a lot to hear that version all the way thru.
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Father Ted
Did the Stripped show as broadcast - this was a mixture of slightly contrived rehearsal footage and live clips - get an official release?
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Happy24
Actually, I don't know if it is true, but I have heard that Bruce tried to do an unplugged show for MTV befeore, but after a while he walked off angry and saying he would not play it accoustic.
I have no idea whether it is true or not, I have heard it sometime at the beginning of the ninetees, when I knew maybe Born In The USA and that was it and didn't care for Bruce at all. But this somehow stayed in my head. Can anyone confirm it? Gazza?
It all sonunds strange, since he did several pretty much accoustic tours, so why would it bother him at that time so much? But it is true that the final result is not unplugged at all.