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He really "reviewed" it? In what sense? As a courtesy? Certainly he had no say over content - as a disaster check? I was not aware of this
perhaps - but he worked on this thing for years - I doubt he would have considered them dead years ago
Good assessment...I for one think that it (LIFE) has created significant damage to the band. If it hasn't ended the possibility of future projects altogether, I think it will certainly have delayed them.
i'd pay double for that
May be that's why I have read only a few pages of Life because I had that feeling too.
Hey, that makes three of us. I could not bring myself to reading it, too afraid to have my
naive vision of the band blown away. So far I chose not to be informed in too much detail.
I want to believe in the image of the band I've been building up in the last 30 years.
Maybe that means I've finally found a religion...
Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away
Make that four cents
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Keep On Rolling
And just because of what other people wrote, you decided to not read the book ? You are just kidding, right ?
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Keep On Rolling
Exactly my thoughts.
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Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: June 27, 2011 02:58
The more I look back through "Life" and all that it exposed, the more it seems that it may also have been the final straw/deathknell blow to, if not the Stones, then Jagger's interest in future projects.
Think about how close to the vest Jagger has always played everything - as has the rest of the band.
And think about how much "Life" dishes - the gossip - Keith's versions of stories behind the songs - it's a huge violation of band privacy.
"Life" seems like it may have been the code-violation of the ages - the book all magicians hate - the one that spoils all of the illusions.
This is just my opinion, mind you - no more, no less.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-06-27 03:00 by hbwriter.
Think about how close to the vest Jagger has always played everything - as has the rest of the band.
And think about how much "Life" dishes - the gossip - Keith's versions of stories behind the songs - it's a huge violation of band privacy.
"Life" seems like it may have been the code-violation of the ages - the book all magicians hate - the one that spoils all of the illusions.
This is just my opinion, mind you - no more, no less.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-06-27 03:00 by hbwriter.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
NICOS
()
Date: June 27, 2011 03:14
"Life" seems like it may have been the code-violation of the ages - the book all magicians hate - the one that spoils all of the illusions.
That's may be the reason that "Live" is still in my book shelf
I'm not sure about your statement HB, always understand that Mick reviewed the book first...........
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That's may be the reason that "Live" is still in my book shelf
I'm not sure about your statement HB, always understand that Mick reviewed the book first...........
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Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: June 27, 2011 03:22
You can also see the book as an acknowledgement that the Stones saga is over. Maybe he wouldn't have spilled his guts if he knew there was a future for the band? Just speculating... .
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
21stcenturystones
()
Date: June 27, 2011 03:33
HB - i agree 100%
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: June 27, 2011 03:34
Quote
NICOS
"Life" seems like it may have been the code-violation of the ages - the book all magicians hate - the one that spoils all of the illusions.
That's may be the reason that "Live" is still in my book shelf
I'm not sure about your statement HB, always understand that Mick reviewed the book first...........
He really "reviewed" it? In what sense? As a courtesy? Certainly he had no say over content - as a disaster check? I was not aware of this
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: June 27, 2011 03:35
Quote
Stoneage
You can also see the book as an acknowledgement that the Stones saga is over. Maybe he wouldn't have spilled his guts if he knew there was a future for the band? Just speculating... .
perhaps - but he worked on this thing for years - I doubt he would have considered them dead years ago
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Max'sKansasCity
()
Date: June 27, 2011 03:40
Has anyone else ever (just for fun) spent some time reading only the last page (or so) of all (several) of your Rolling Stones books? I own 50-100-1000 Rolling Stones books, and the last pages of each one always seem to say something like......
""and after _____________this _______ and that _______ what will be next for the band and it's members? is it over? will they tour again? will they make a new album? is it over?""
Of course my older Rolling Stones last pages ended long long ago, and we know what happend next, but when they wrote the book they didnt..... and this has been going on for a long while... Have a look at the final pages of several of your books in a row........ they all kind of end same.
""and after _____________this _______ and that _______ what will be next for the band and it's members? is it over? will they tour again? will they make a new album? is it over?""
Of course my older Rolling Stones last pages ended long long ago, and we know what happend next, but when they wrote the book they didnt..... and this has been going on for a long while... Have a look at the final pages of several of your books in a row........ they all kind of end same.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Stoneage
()
Date: June 27, 2011 03:41
Wasn't it written by a ghostwriter? Like almost all celebrity biographs? I have only read excerpts of the book. I can't imagine Keith writing a book.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: June 27, 2011 03:51
As Keith was intent on putting these humiliating remarks in about Mick, Mick probaly knew that objecting to elements that weren't legally flawed would just give Keith more ammunition. ........ie. Mick objects - Keith smiles and publishes anyway - Keith then ridicules Mick further in LIFE interviews by pointing out that when he gave Mick the book to read "Mick had a hissy fit and threw his toys out of the pram........this is the type of guy I've been dealing with all these years...Blah blah blah blah blah..." .....
Mick's a past master at the press release and knows inside out what they feed on....conflict...Mick (my guess is) knew that keeping stumm about Life from inception through (thru) to the publication aftermath was the best course for damage limitation.....ie Don't feed the vampires or the Vampire.....Mick knew he couldn't stop the bull but was savvy enough not to make himself an even bigger meal than he already was about to be..(sorry about the mixed metaphors)..............as per hbwriter..."That's just my opinon, nothing more......"
As to whether LIFE has @#$%& the Stones...now that's question I've concluded is one not to spend too much time on......it's a flip a coin job...give an answer and the truth could easily be the other.......
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2011-06-27 04:19 by EddieByword.
Mick's a past master at the press release and knows inside out what they feed on....conflict...Mick (my guess is) knew that keeping stumm about Life from inception through (thru) to the publication aftermath was the best course for damage limitation.....ie Don't feed the vampires or the Vampire.....Mick knew he couldn't stop the bull but was savvy enough not to make himself an even bigger meal than he already was about to be..(sorry about the mixed metaphors)..............as per hbwriter..."That's just my opinon, nothing more......"
As to whether LIFE has @#$%& the Stones...now that's question I've concluded is one not to spend too much time on......it's a flip a coin job...give an answer and the truth could easily be the other.......
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2011-06-27 04:19 by EddieByword.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
loog droog
()
Date: June 27, 2011 04:26
Life = Death?
That's like....1984, maaaaaan!!!
That's like....1984, maaaaaan!!!
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: June 27, 2011 04:30
Go ahead, go ahead and light up the town
And, baby, do everything your heart desires
Remember, I'll always be around
And I know, I know like I told you so many times before
You're going to come back, baby
Cause I know you're going to come back
Knocking, yeah, knocking right on my door, yes, yes
ROCKMAN
And, baby, do everything your heart desires
Remember, I'll always be around
And I know, I know like I told you so many times before
You're going to come back, baby
Cause I know you're going to come back
Knocking, yeah, knocking right on my door, yes, yes
ROCKMAN
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: June 27, 2011 04:38
Quote
Rockman
Go ahead, go ahead and light up the town
And, baby, do everything your heart desires
Remember, I'll always be around
And I know, I know like I told you so many times before
You're going to come back, baby
Cause I know you're going to come back
Knocking, yeah, knocking right on my door, yes, yes
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: June 27, 2011 04:59
Quote
EddieByword
As Keith was intent on putting these humiliating remarks in about Mick, Mick probaly knew that objecting to elements that weren't legally flawed would just give Keith more ammunition. ........ie. Mick objects - Keith smiles and publishes anyway - Keith then ridicules Mick further in LIFE interviews by pointing out that when he gave Mick the book to read "Mick had a hissy fit and threw his toys out of the pram........this is the type of guy I've been dealing with all these years...Blah blah blah blah blah..." .....
Mick's a past master at the press release and knows inside out what they feed on....conflict...Mick (my guess is) knew that keeping stumm about Life from inception through (thru) to the publication aftermath was the best course for damage limitation.....ie Don't feed the vampires or the Vampire.....Mick knew he couldn't stop the bull but was savvy enough not to make himself an even bigger meal than he already was about to be..(sorry about the mixed metaphors)..............as per hbwriter..."That's just my opinon, nothing more......"
As to whether LIFE has @#$%& the Stones...now that's question I've concluded is one not to spend too much time on......it's a flip a coin job...give an answer and the truth could easily be the other.......
Good assessment...I for one think that it (LIFE) has created significant damage to the band. If it hasn't ended the possibility of future projects altogether, I think it will certainly have delayed them.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
No Expectations
()
Date: June 27, 2011 06:05
If they want to continue..they will. If they don't they wont. Don't think "Life" is in any way the determining factor.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
21stcenturystones
()
Date: June 27, 2011 06:07
I'm tellin ya, "Rockman" will open for em on the next tour!
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: June 27, 2011 06:13
Quote
21stcenturystones
I'm tellin ya, "Rockman" will open for em on the next tour!
i'd pay double for that
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
M4000D
()
Date: June 27, 2011 06:24
it's the 6th month of the year 2011
people forget especially people who don't read
they will do something for 2012
they are making big plans
keep hope alive
people forget especially people who don't read
they will do something for 2012
they are making big plans
keep hope alive
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
hbwriter
()
Date: June 27, 2011 06:53
who knows what's right or if that's true - but to think that it had no effect at all on the band is, i think, a bit naive - there are *massive* egos at play here
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: June 27, 2011 07:48
I'm tellin ya, "Rockman" will open for em on the next tour!
That's why I'm draggin this friggin' snake-skin around all over town lookin' for a boot-maker ......
ROCKMAN
That's why I'm draggin this friggin' snake-skin around all over town lookin' for a boot-maker ......
ROCKMAN
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
21stcenturystones
()
Date: June 27, 2011 08:42
Oh, glad you noticed I'm back from last weeks "time out".
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: June 27, 2011 08:53
......musta been a BIG candle ya had ta snuff-out
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
SwayStones
()
Date: June 27, 2011 10:58
You've hit the nail on the head .Quote
hbwriter
"Life" seems like it may have been the code-violation of the ages - the book all magicians hate - the one that spoils all of the illusions.
.
May be that's why I have read only a few pages of Life because I had that feeling too.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
marcovandereijk
()
Date: June 27, 2011 12:32
Quote
NICOS
"Life" seems like it may have been the code-violation of the ages - the book all magicians hate - the one that spoils all of the illusions.
That's may be the reason that "Live" is still in my book shelf
Quote
SwayStones
May be that's why I have read only a few pages of Life because I had that feeling too.
Hey, that makes three of us. I could not bring myself to reading it, too afraid to have my
naive vision of the band blown away. So far I chose not to be informed in too much detail.
I want to believe in the image of the band I've been building up in the last 30 years.
Maybe that means I've finally found a religion...
Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: June 27, 2011 12:37
IMO, there is nothing new concerning the Mick and Keith conflict in Life, that Keith hasn´t said in public before, including the "tiny todger-comment".
That´s why I find it strange that so many IORRians take this so seriously. The fact that Mick actually read the book prior to the release is also important to take into consideration.
Just my two cents.
That´s why I find it strange that so many IORRians take this so seriously. The fact that Mick actually read the book prior to the release is also important to take into consideration.
Just my two cents.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
()
Date: June 27, 2011 13:00
Quote
DandelionPowderman
IMO, there is nothing new concerning the Mick and Keith conflict in Life, that Keith hasn´t said in public before.
That´s why I find it strange that so many IORRians take this so seriously.
Just my two cents.
Make that four cents
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Keep On Rolling
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
phd
()
Date: June 27, 2011 13:36
I have bought the book, but did not read it. I just would assume by the reports here and there that it has caused a lot of damages. "Death of The Stones" is to give to e book more importance that it effectively has. If it were so, it would just mean that Mick and Keith could not collaborate anymore or more pragmatically have turned the page of a Book, theit book.
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Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Spud
()
Date: June 27, 2011 13:53
Quote
Rolling HansieQuote
DandelionPowderman
IMO, there is nothing new concerning the Mick and Keith conflict in Life, that Keith hasn´t said in public before.
That´s why I find it strange that so many IORRians take this so seriously.
Just my two cents.
Make that four cents
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
Rolling Hansie
()
Date: June 27, 2011 14:16
Quote
phd
I just would assume by the reports here and there that it has caused a lot of damages.
And just because of what other people wrote, you decided to not read the book ? You are just kidding, right ?
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Keep On Rolling
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
The GR
()
Date: June 27, 2011 14:51
Two solid years on the road, saturation of markets, poor record sales, poor reviews and old age? ABB did it.
Re: Could "Life" have been the Death of the Stones?
Posted by:
TooTough
()
Date: June 27, 2011 15:02
Quote
hbwriter
The more I look back through "Life" and all that it exposed, the more it seems that it may also have been the final straw/deathknell blow to, if not the Stones, then Jagger's interest in future projects.
Think about how close to the vest Jagger has always played everything - as has the rest of the band.
And think about how much "Life" dishes - the gossip - Keith's versions of stories behind the songs - it's a huge violation of band privacy.
Exactly my thoughts.
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