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Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: August 9, 2024 18:52

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Spud
I've never dared christen any of mine with it down the years ...

...but I've often thought that it would be a fantastic name for a dog grinning smiley

Here Gomper !

Gomper !... get off my socks !

Gomper the Romper grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: josepi ()
Date: August 10, 2024 09:43

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Spud
I've never dared christen any of mine with it down the years ...

...but I've often thought that it would be a fantastic name for a dog grinning smiley

Here Gomper !

Gomper !... get off my socks !

Good name for a basset hound or a duck. Although a duck is not technically a dog.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: August 11, 2024 20:28

I can't explain why ... but I like Gomper!

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Meise ()
Date: August 12, 2024 12:21

It's a horrible tune on an uninspiring album. That's a musical LSD trip but far away from the psychaldelic pearls of that time.

Gomper and The Lantern are some of the worst songs the Stones ever recorded.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Meise ()
Date: August 12, 2024 12:22

Well said

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Meise ()
Date: August 12, 2024 12:23

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GasLightStreet
This song is a D-side at the very best.

I've never spent more time on listening to an LP to make it "work" than TSMR and this is one of the songs that makes me never bother listening to it. It's just rambling garbage 'we're being stoned' songs with a bunch of noise for the purpose of of just that.

Which is why it makes a great EP without the bunk tracks of crap like Gomper and The Lantern and the two Sing This All Together songs.

It's simply their second worst LP of their discography behind DIRTY WORK and it's songs like Gomper that make it that much more evident that TSMR is a horrible album.

The band doesn't like it. Critics didn't like it. Most Stones fans don't like it.

It makes BETWEEN THE BUTTONS an exceptional album. Because it is... especially when compared to this pile of garbage of an album.

Well said. Completely agree.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: August 12, 2024 13:11

Maybe thet weren't doing enough acid ? ..

... and tried too hard to make an album that sounded like they were doing too much grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Date: August 12, 2024 13:12

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Meise
It's a horrible tune on an uninspiring album. That's a musical LSD trip but far away from the psychaldelic pearls of that time.

Gomper and The Lantern are some of the worst songs the Stones ever recorded.

What's so bad about The Lantern again? I've always loved it – the acoustic guitar, the tremolo, the melodic, descending lines in the choruses, the vocals, the «creepy» atmosphere, the bells – everything.

I can understand that the second half of Gomper isn't everybody's cup of tea, but I really like the first half. Strong melody, new territory musically for them.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Jalfstra ()
Date: August 12, 2024 13:12

The first two minutes of the song aren't that bad. The melody is actually pretty nice. The main problem of the song is that it only has one verse and the rest is filled up with an incohorent jam.

If they made a song with this melody and two or three extra verses, it would be a decent track that would perfectly fit on Aftermath or Between the Buttons.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Date: August 12, 2024 14:34

Definitely inspired by Oriental music, done by the Stones. Why not ? I like it.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: novica ()
Date: August 12, 2024 15:12

I like it, it's different from anything they've ever done it, before and after! This is 1967...everything that was in the air...they just soaked it all in ...


Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: August 12, 2024 15:41

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Meise
It's a horrible tune on an uninspiring album. That's a musical LSD trip but far away from the psychaldelic pearls of that time.

Gomper and The Lantern are some of the worst songs the Stones ever recorded.

Taste is unexplainable cool smiley

I always found The Lantern a brilliant song and Gomper highly enjoyable (don't forget the times we were living in those days). Without dr*gs or anything, it is just putting the mind on blanc and drink it cool smiley
The only song I never listen to is "Sing this song together" part II.
Other great songs are She's a Rainbow" and "2000 Lightyears ....".

Having said that ... I was pleased that they made that great "BB" in the year following thumbs up
smileys with beer

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: August 12, 2024 18:23

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DandelionPowderman
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Meise
It's a horrible tune on an uninspiring album. That's a musical LSD trip but far away from the psychaldelic pearls of that time.

Gomper and The Lantern are some of the worst songs the Stones ever recorded.

What's so bad about The Lantern again? I've always loved it – the acoustic guitar, the tremolo, the melodic, descending lines in the choruses, the vocals, the «creepy» atmosphere, the bells – everything.

I can understand that the second half of Gomper isn't everybody's cup of tea, but I really like the first half. Strong melody, new territory musically for them.

Bang on Dandy. It's a beautiful melody. Really nice poetic lyrics with a nod to Lao Tzu and the Tao Te Ching. And it fits in really well with the rest of the album. Why shouldn't the Stones experiment. And it makes their back catalogue so interesting.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 12, 2024 19:44

The Aftermath, Between The Buttons & TSMR trilogy, is a criminally underrated time in the bands catalogue. Throw in "Flowers" and We Love You/ Dandelion and you have some amazing pop music that they'd never venture to that level ever again.

66/67...all that in 2 years, just amazing.

As for Gomper, yes, probably a low point in the catalogue.

But they'd be able to go even lower 19 years later.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: August 12, 2024 22:04

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treaclefingers
The Aftermath, Between The Buttons & TSMR trilogy, is a criminally underrated time in the bands catalogue. Throw in "Flowers" and We Love You/ Dandelion and you have some amazing pop music that they'd never venture to that level ever again.

66/67...all that in 2 years, just amazing.

As for Gomper, yes, probably a low point in the catalogue.

But they'd be able to go even lower 19 years later.

True. The fantastic songs on TSMR keep it out of the, eh, dirt.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 13, 2024 00:54

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GasLightStreet
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treaclefingers
The Aftermath, Between The Buttons & TSMR trilogy, is a criminally underrated time in the bands catalogue. Throw in "Flowers" and We Love You/ Dandelion and you have some amazing pop music that they'd never venture to that level ever again.

66/67...all that in 2 years, just amazing.

As for Gomper, yes, probably a low point in the catalogue.

But they'd be able to go even lower 19 years later.

True. The fantastic songs on TSMR keep it out of the, eh, dirt.

It took some...eh...work.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 13, 2024 09:08



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Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: August 13, 2024 11:31

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treaclefingers
The Aftermath, Between The Buttons & TSMR trilogy, is a criminally underrated time in the bands catalogue. Throw in "Flowers" and We Love You/ Dandelion and you have some amazing pop music that they'd never venture to that level ever again.

66/67...all that in 2 years, just amazing.

As for Gomper, yes, probably a low point in the catalogue.

But they'd be able to go even lower 19 years later.

Absolutely true, the amount of fabulous pop they created in just two years is amazing. They then continued with 1968 to 1971, where they created four of the greatest RnR albums of all times, plus the best live album ever.

Mathijs

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: August 13, 2024 11:59

"Gomper"?

Oh, boy. There are so called deep albums tracks, but then there is "Gomper", belonging to the class of its own. It could be their bravest musical adventure ever. Even within the context of pretty odd pieces, it distinguishes out.

Nowadays 1966/67 is called 'pop era'. Funny what pop was like those days, since "Gomper" no doubt is their most avantgarde recording ever - more like being psychedelic, it is an exercise in Eastern sounds and ideas. Outside that extraordinary context of hippie times of 1967, the idea that this being commercial music - like 'pop' supposed to be - is just crazy. If one's ears are trained in listening pop music and its one form, classic rock, this might hurt your ears... You don't find this stuff from Taylor Swift or AC/DC albums, now do you?

But that's the charm of "Gomper" in my book. The Stones were there following trends, but this time they took the mission pretty far (out). Some people ask 'if you don't know that's the Stones, would you listen it?' But I would turn the question over: can I enjoy it just as it is, without the knowledge of the Stones, and how the Stones supposed to sound like, clouding my experience?

Mick sounds artificial (like he tends to do all over the album) and I'm not that big fan of its nice, but a bit forced-sounding melody (the only overtly 'pop' feature there), but the instrumental landscape and its texture is a gem. Especially the latter part, the jam part, is deep shit, man! I am always fascinated listening to what the hell happens there (and no, I don't use LSD). It is rich and has a point, unlike is the case with totally pointless, incoherent jam in "See What Happens" that from the moment it starts goes nowhere. It is Brian Jones and his use of 'exotic' instruments that especially shines there. As far as I have understood it, Brian was never that into psycheledia, but it is his ability handling different instruments pretty convincingly, experimenting with different sounds and having a natural ear for something people later would call 'world music' that probably gives THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES the needed musical flavor, even depthness and credibility. For that I think "Gomper" is a key track: Mick tries hard something he is not really that content with, Keith the same, trying to formulate his naturally stemming musical ideas into more psychedelic form. But Brian just does his thing 'just like that': all of that coming so naturally from him.

"Gomper" and the whole album is one of those 'once in a life time' experiments that gives the depthness and variance to a great Rolling Stones story. My band.

- Doxa



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2024-08-13 12:07 by Doxa.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: August 13, 2024 13:37

Quite so...

Any album that's so far "off piste" for the Stones as TSMR will never be every fan's cup of tea.

The problems is that, for many folks, "not my cup of tea" is expressed as "rubbish"

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Bjorn ()
Date: August 13, 2024 13:40

I like Gomper. I think. Cant remeber it right now. Just the opening songs on each side that is a little strange. But the rest - I cant remember having anything against it. smiling smiley

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: August 13, 2024 17:02

"The freakiness continues with 'Gomper', at one time known as 'The Ladies, The Lilies And The Lake'. Brian explained the title as the term for the amazing journey undertaken by hypnotized Tibetan monks and strives to catch its essence using his electric dulcimer and flaring recorder aboard Charlie's tabla and Hopkins' floating organ pads.


Kris Needs - Shindig!

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: August 15, 2024 10:41

..and there lies the issue for a certain type of Stones fan..

...Tibetan monks don't feature all that much in Rock N Roll grinning smiley

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: August 15, 2024 10:50

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runaway
"The freakiness continues with 'Gomper', at one time known as 'The Ladies, The Lilies And The Lake'. Brian explained the title as the term for the amazing journey undertaken by hypnotized Tibetan monks and strives to catch its essence using his electric dulcimer and flaring recorder aboard Charlie's tabla and Hopkins' floating organ pads.


Kris Needs - Shindig!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the reasons many have no time for Satanic Majesty's and any other kind of psychedelic music. What aloof, twaddle.

Just gimme some rock 'n roll. Thankfully, Jumpin' Jack Flash was on the horizon.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Date: August 15, 2024 11:06

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Big Al
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runaway
"The freakiness continues with 'Gomper', at one time known as 'The Ladies, The Lilies And The Lake'. Brian explained the title as the term for the amazing journey undertaken by hypnotized Tibetan monks and strives to catch its essence using his electric dulcimer and flaring recorder aboard Charlie's tabla and Hopkins' floating organ pads.


Kris Needs - Shindig!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the reasons many have no time for Satanic Majesty's and any other kind of psychedelic music. What aloof, twaddle.

Just gimme some rock 'n roll. Thankfully, Jumpin' Jack Flash was on the horizon.

Not totally without psychedelic/freaky influences, though smiling smiley

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: August 15, 2024 13:20

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DandelionPowderman
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Big Al
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runaway
"The freakiness continues with 'Gomper', at one time known as 'The Ladies, The Lilies And The Lake'. Brian explained the title as the term for the amazing journey undertaken by hypnotized Tibetan monks and strives to catch its essence using his electric dulcimer and flaring recorder aboard Charlie's tabla and Hopkins' floating organ pads.


Kris Needs - Shindig!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the reasons many have no time for Satanic Majesty's and any other kind of psychedelic music. What aloof, twaddle.

Just gimme some rock 'n roll. Thankfully, Jumpin' Jack Flash was on the horizon.

Not totally without psychedelic/freaky influences, though smiling smiley

Continental Drift was a fantastic opener and 2000 Light Years From Home was as well performed during the Steel Wheels and Urban Jungle Tour in 1989/1990.

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: August 15, 2024 15:50

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runaway
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DandelionPowderman
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Big Al
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runaway
"The freakiness continues with 'Gomper', at one time known as 'The Ladies, The Lilies And The Lake'. Brian explained the title as the term for the amazing journey undertaken by hypnotized Tibetan monks and strives to catch its essence using his electric dulcimer and flaring recorder aboard Charlie's tabla and Hopkins' floating organ pads.


Kris Needs - Shindig!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the reasons many have no time for Satanic Majesty's and any other kind of psychedelic music. What aloof, twaddle.

Just gimme some rock 'n roll. Thankfully, Jumpin' Jack Flash was on the horizon.

Not totally without psychedelic/freaky influences, though smiling smiley

Continental Drift was a fantastic opener and 2000 Light Years From Home was as well performed during the Steel Wheels and Urban Jungle Tour in 1989/1990.

I should point out that my little jibe was really aimed at the 'Tibetan monks' tripe and the 'catch it's essence' bit. winking smiley

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Date: August 15, 2024 16:05

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Big Al
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runaway
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DandelionPowderman
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Big Al
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runaway
"The freakiness continues with 'Gomper', at one time known as 'The Ladies, The Lilies And The Lake'. Brian explained the title as the term for the amazing journey undertaken by hypnotized Tibetan monks and strives to catch its essence using his electric dulcimer and flaring recorder aboard Charlie's tabla and Hopkins' floating organ pads.


Kris Needs - Shindig!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the reasons many have no time for Satanic Majesty's and any other kind of psychedelic music. What aloof, twaddle.

Just gimme some rock 'n roll. Thankfully, Jumpin' Jack Flash was on the horizon.

Not totally without psychedelic/freaky influences, though smiling smiley

Continental Drift was a fantastic opener and 2000 Light Years From Home was as well performed during the Steel Wheels and Urban Jungle Tour in 1989/1990.

I should point out that my little jibe was really aimed at the 'Tibetan monks' tripe and the 'catch it's essence' bit. winking smiley

LOL, yeah I can see that smiling smiley

Re: Track Talk: Gomper
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: August 15, 2024 16:23

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DandelionPowderman
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Big Al
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runaway
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DandelionPowderman
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Big Al
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runaway
"The freakiness continues with 'Gomper', at one time known as 'The Ladies, The Lilies And The Lake'. Brian explained the title as the term for the amazing journey undertaken by hypnotized Tibetan monks and strives to catch its essence using his electric dulcimer and flaring recorder aboard Charlie's tabla and Hopkins' floating organ pads.


Kris Needs - Shindig!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the reasons many have no time for Satanic Majesty's and any other kind of psychedelic music. What aloof, twaddle.

Just gimme some rock 'n roll. Thankfully, Jumpin' Jack Flash was on the horizon.

Not totally without psychedelic/freaky influences, though smiling smiley

Continental Drift was a fantastic opener and 2000 Light Years From Home was as well performed during the Steel Wheels and Urban Jungle Tour in 1989/1990.

I should point out that my little jibe was really aimed at the 'Tibetan monks' tripe and the 'catch it's essence' bit. winking smiley

LOL, yeah I can see that smiling smiley

It,s ok if the monks are ok with it haha

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